The Indy Thread

[logjammin]

Blue 243 is what you want

[manysnakes]

Yeah, the way the colors break down with Loctite is generally as follows:

Red - Semi-Permanent, for “setting and forgetting”. Can be adjusted with hand tools, but this breaks the bond and will need to be cleaned and reapplied.

Blue - For bolts which see regular adjustment, moving the threads will not permanently break the bond. Ideal for skateboard trucks

Green - Void filler, functionally permanent. Often requires a heat gun or other external force to break free. Difficult to clean up after it solidifies

[Firebert]

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I was always really lame about swapping bushings cuz of the idea that Indy's stock are like, just bolt on and then work. But when they moved to China I swear the bushings got softer or my preferences changed. I recently have been using blues and they're great. I still get a super deep turn but it doesn't push into bite as easily.

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@LebowskisRug not trying to add to any bushing swap madness but I've found that the Indy 90D orange aftermarkets are actually harder than the new standard issue ones for some reason.

It's been this way for at least the last decade in my experience. I only skate the aftermarkets orange bushings, they're perfect and don't require breaking in.

[BL0B]

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I was always really lame about swapping bushings cuz of the idea that Indy's stock are like, just bolt on and then work. But when they moved to China I swear the bushings got softer or my preferences changed. I recently have been using blues and they're great. I still get a super deep turn but it doesn't push into bite as easily.

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@LebowskisRug not trying to add to any bushing swap madness but I've found that the Indy 90D orange aftermarkets are actually harder than the new standard issue ones for some reason.

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It's been this way for at least the last decade in my experience. I only skate the aftermarkets orange bushings, they're perfect and don't require breaking in.

the latest drops of indy's have much better stock bushings ime.

[Firebert]

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I was always really lame about swapping bushings cuz of the idea that Indy's stock are like, just bolt on and then work. But when they moved to China I swear the bushings got softer or my preferences changed. I recently have been using blues and they're great. I still get a super deep turn but it doesn't push into bite as easily.

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@LebowskisRug not trying to add to any bushing swap madness but I've found that the Indy 90D orange aftermarkets are actually harder than the new standard issue ones for some reason.

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It's been this way for at least the last decade in my experience. I only skate the aftermarkets orange bushings, they're perfect and don't require breaking in.

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the latest drops of indy's have much better stock bushings ime.

Much better than they used to be, but no way are they as hard as the aftermarket orange.

[Mbrimson88]

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I was always really lame about swapping bushings cuz of the idea that Indy's stock are like, just bolt on and then work. But when they moved to China I swear the bushings got softer or my preferences changed. I recently have been using blues and they're great. I still get a super deep turn but it doesn't push into bite as easily.

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@LebowskisRug not trying to add to any bushing swap madness but I've found that the Indy 90D orange aftermarkets are actually harder than the new standard issue ones for some reason.

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It's been this way for at least the last decade in my experience. I only skate the aftermarkets orange bushings, they're perfect and don't require breaking in.

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the latest drops of indy's have much better stock bushings ime.

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Much better than they used to be, but no way are they as hard as the aftermarket orange.

Yes, agreed.

It is interesting to note, as the average user has loosened off the trucks over the past decade or two, stock bushings have become softer, even if the marketing blurb says they are still the same durometer.

The one other thing to note with stock bushings is that they firm up considerably from when first used, whereas the aftermarket bushings don't seem to firm up quite as much as stock bushings do in this case with Indy brand product.

It is only more as the bushings break, crack or crumble that the trucks become looser with age, but the aftermarket bushings seem to hold up better than the stock bushings too.

[LebowskisRug]

Durometer is just sticking a needle in something and while it's one measure, it doesn't really account for how specific urethane responds when compressed (for bushings) or slide (for wheels)

[beandemon]

Anybody over their stage 4 166 and looking to move them along?

[big_kev_215]

Took a break from skating Indys for like nine months and finally busted out these beauties today.  Felt comfortable on them almost immediately and had a great session. Feels good to be back - until I inevitably get distracted by some other truck in the near future…

[IpathCats]

Took a break from skating Indys for like nine months and finally busted out these beauties today.  Felt comfortable on them almost immediately and had a great session. Feels good to be back - until I inevitably get distracted by some other truck in the near future…

Welcome back.

I'm currently on a vacation with ace trucks.

I'm not sure how much longer that will last.

[switchfakie]

Yeah, the way the colors break down with Loctite is generally as follows:

Red - Semi-Permanent, for “setting and forgetting”. Can be adjusted with hand tools, but this breaks the bond and will need to be cleaned and reapplied.

Blue - For bolts which see regular adjustment, moving the threads will not permanently break the bond. Ideal for skateboard trucks

Green - Void filler, functionally permanent. Often requires a heat gun or other external force to break free. Difficult to clean up after it solidifies

is loctite green better than just regular superglue?

[big_kev_215]

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Took a break from skating Indys for like nine months and finally busted out these beauties today.  Felt comfortable on them almost immediately and had a great session. Feels good to be back - until I inevitably get distracted by some other truck in the near future…

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Welcome back.

I'm currently on a vacation with ace trucks.

I'm not sure how much longer that will last.

Thank you sir. 

We talking AF1’s or Classics?

[IpathCats]

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Took a break from skating Indys for like nine months and finally busted out these beauties today.  Felt comfortable on them almost immediately and had a great session. Feels good to be back - until I inevitably get distracted by some other truck in the near future…

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Welcome back.

I'm currently on a vacation with ace trucks.

I'm not sure how much longer that will last.

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Thank you sir. 

We talking AF1’s or Classics?

AF1's

and after a lack luster session on them yesterday I setup a new deck with my indy 149's haha. Ti hanger, cast plate.

[IpathCats]

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Yeah, the way the colors break down with Loctite is generally as follows:

Red - Semi-Permanent, for “setting and forgetting”. Can be adjusted with hand tools, but this breaks the bond and will need to be cleaned and reapplied.

Blue - For bolts which see regular adjustment, moving the threads will not permanently break the bond. Ideal for skateboard trucks

Green - Void filler, functionally permanent. Often requires a heat gun or other external force to break free. Difficult to clean up after it solidifies

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is loctite green better than just regular superglue?

yes, loctite is specifically design to hold up against vibrations

[logjammin]

Yeah, the way the colors break down with Loctite is generally as follows:

Red - Semi-Permanent, for “setting and forgetting”. Can be adjusted with hand tools, but this breaks the bond and will need to be cleaned and reapplied.

Blue - For bolts which see regular adjustment, moving the threads will not permanently break the bond. Ideal for skateboard trucks

Green - Void filler, functionally permanent. Often requires a heat gun or other external force to break free. Difficult to clean up after it solidifies

I thought adjusting would break the bond with the blue but lately I’ve had to do it a couple times after overtightening initially before it set, and you’re right, everything still holds up. I also don’t even let it cure 24 hours before skating. Just overnight into the next day so about half the time, 12 hours. I think that’s plenty of time. I also read on some mechanic forums dudes will immediately use stuff after tightening it and not have issues. Something about after an hour it’s already pretty set since air is what cures it. If I take apart the trucks though, I definitely clean off the threads with rubbing alcohol, dry and reapply.

[manysnakes]

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Yeah, the way the colors break down with Loctite is generally as follows:

Red - Semi-Permanent, for “setting and forgetting”. Can be adjusted with hand tools, but this breaks the bond and will need to be cleaned and reapplied.

Blue - For bolts which see regular adjustment, moving the threads will not permanently break the bond. Ideal for skateboard trucks

Green - Void filler, functionally permanent. Often requires a heat gun or other external force to break free. Difficult to clean up after it solidifies

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is loctite green better than just regular superglue?

Apples and oranges. I know some people claim success with superglue, but I've never tried and and I don't know why I would when a tube of generic blue threadlocker is a few dollars at any hardware store. As for green, I would avoid it altogether. Once you set it up it is difficult to make any adjustments, and cleanup is a pain.

[LebowskisRug]

Second this ^. And even cleaning up/breaking red can suck.

[IpathCats]

Second this ^. And even cleaning up/breaking red can suck.

I think i mentioned it in another thread, but i unknowingly (didnt understand the different strengths) used red on a switch i was mounting my campervan conversion.

I told my very mechanically inclined friend and he just looked at me all wide eyed like i really fucked up haha.

Not looking forward to the day i need to take that off lol.

[LebowskisRug]

I did it on my campervan on a bolt that was going into a Rivnut in a wall. The fucking Rivnut started spinning and pulling out of the wall. I ended up trying to remove the bolt and it broke in the nut and god that was the worst afternoon.

[manysnakes]

I did it on my campervan on a bolt that was going into a Rivnut in a wall. The fucking Rivnut started spinning and pulling out of the wall. I ended up trying to remove the bolt and it broke in the nut and god that was the worst afternoon.

hahaha I used green loctite on my van when attaching the 2" hitch on the rear, because I figured I wanted this to be as permanent as possible. I actually even prepped everything by chasing the female end and using a wire wheel to remove any rust or corrosion on the old bolts. I'm not eager to have my bumper, bike and bike rack come tumbling off somewhere on the highway.

[IpathCats]

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I did it on my campervan on a bolt that was going into a Rivnut in a wall. The fucking Rivnut started spinning and pulling out of the wall. I ended up trying to remove the bolt and it broke in the nut and god that was the worst afternoon.

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hahaha I used green loctite on my van when attaching the 2" hitch on the rear, because I figured I wanted this to be as permanent as possible. I actually even prepped everything by chasing the female end and using a wire wheel to remove any rust or corrosion on the old bolts. I'm not eager to have my bumper, bike and bike rack come tumbling off somewhere on the highway.

Probably a legitimate use for it.

[big_kev_215]

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Took a break from skating Indys for like nine months and finally busted out these beauties today.  Felt comfortable on them almost immediately and had a great session. Feels good to be back - until I inevitably get distracted by some other truck in the near future…

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Welcome back.

I'm currently on a vacation with ace trucks.

I'm not sure how much longer that will last.

[close]

Thank you sir. 

We talking AF1’s or Classics?

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AF1's

and after a lack luster session on them yesterday I setup a new deck with my indy 149's haha. Ti hanger, cast plate.

Word - I enjoy the classics but wasn’t really feeling the AF1’s when I tried them.  Glad you’re back on Indys haha

[Mulldrifter]

i really cant see a difference between classics and af1 when riding, i must be dumb

[IpathCats]

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Took a break from skating Indys for like nine months and finally busted out these beauties today.  Felt comfortable on them almost immediately and had a great session. Feels good to be back - until I inevitably get distracted by some other truck in the near future…

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Welcome back.

I'm currently on a vacation with ace trucks.

I'm not sure how much longer that will last.

[close]

Thank you sir. 

We talking AF1’s or Classics?

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AF1's

and after a lack luster session on them yesterday I setup a new deck with my indy 149's haha. Ti hanger, cast plate.

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Word - I enjoy the classics but wasn’t really feeling the AF1’s when I tried them.  Glad you’re back on Indys haha

We'll see, this new deck has short steep kicks. Already had to put the forged plates on the indys. Aces might work better, idk madness blah blah blah.

I nearly axled two sets of ace classics, I also bent two sets. After some time on the AF1s I think I prefer them to classics. I did not feel that way at first though. Had to run them way tighter than I thought, and use the hard bushings.

Still running 22 classics on my zip zinger.

[Xen]

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Yeah, the way the colors break down with Loctite is generally as follows:

Red - Semi-Permanent, for “setting and forgetting”. Can be adjusted with hand tools, but this breaks the bond and will need to be cleaned and reapplied.

Blue - For bolts which see regular adjustment, moving the threads will not permanently break the bond. Ideal for skateboard trucks

Green - Void filler, functionally permanent. Often requires a heat gun or other external force to break free. Difficult to clean up after it solidifies

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is loctite green better than just regular superglue?

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Apples and oranges. I know some people claim success with superglue, but I've never tried and and I don't know why I would when a tube of generic blue threadlocker is a few dollars at any hardware store. As for green, I would avoid it altogether. Once you set it up it is difficult to make any adjustments, and cleanup is a pain.

Some non-Loctite blue generic ass brand cost me 10 fucking bucks today…

[Frank]

just wanted to say indy, please for the love of god rerelease those stage 4s at some point. these trucks are so good honestly.

[Mbrimson88]

just wanted to say indy, please for the love of god rerelease those stage 4s at some point. these trucks are so good honestly.

I thought they were coming in as a standard line, with NHS bringing them out on their own online store this or next month, from what others had said.

As I haven't really followed them as they barely made it out here to Australia (only a few people got a set or two) and the main release is still yet to happen here as per info from one of the bigger main shops, I am guessing there are going to be a whole lot more of them soon enough.

[Boog]

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just wanted to say indy, please for the love of god rerelease those stage 4s at some point. these trucks are so good honestly.

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I thought they were coming in as a standard line, with NHS bringing them out on their own online store this or next month, from what others had said.

As I haven't really followed them as they barely made it out here to Australia (only a few people got a set or two) and the main release is still yet to happen here as per info from one of the bigger main shops, I am guessing there are going to be a whole lot more of them soon enough.

Yeah that's what I thought. You can order them from pretty much any online shop now. I know tactics and ccs have them.

[jakeumms]

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just wanted to say indy, please for the love of god rerelease those stage 4s at some point. these trucks are so good honestly.

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I thought they were coming in as a standard line, with NHS bringing them out on their own online store this or next month, from what others had said.

As I haven't really followed them as they barely made it out here to Australia (only a few people got a set or two) and the main release is still yet to happen here as per info from one of the bigger main shops, I am guessing there are going to be a whole lot more of them soon enough.

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Yeah that's what I thought. You can order them from pretty much any online shop now. I know tactics and ccs have them.

Just checked the other day and no aftermarket bushings in the new size either. I think we are still in the rollout phase and I remember something about Summer?

[mvdbosch90]

Has anyone ever stepped up from 149 to 159 on a 8.5” board? Was it better and how noticeable was the difference?