Tyshawn and Nakel’s board brand is called King skateboards

[BigMurf]

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This does make me wonder how long King will be around I’d have to imagine they fucked up a big bag not putting the logo on shirts idk who would wanna walk around with that corpo ass logo but some people like this enough for decks to sell out. Either that or Tyshawn is forcing all his restaurant employees to buy the boards themselves.

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Even worse he's paying his employees in King decks.

True sigma grindset

[LebowskisRug]

So is this shaping up to be an Illegal Civ video without Ishod and Zion?

[PatrickSkateman]

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On second thought, this might seem like putting the cart before the horse, but I believe Tyshawn has a lot of "The Power of Positive Thinking" and "The Secret" energy in him, and this is another attempt to manifest his destiny as great and powerful individual.

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yes tyshawn is totally a woo/self-help book kind of guy, i remember he posted a photo of “rich dad poor dad” on his ig stories and people on #skatetwitter were like noooo, tyshawn nooooooo!

Wait, people actually hate that book? It’s a book on investing and financial literacy.

Can’t knock a guy from Soundview Bronx trying to make the most of the opportunity he’s got. Soundview isn’t Williamsburg or Bushwick with the new residents getting subsidized by their parents in some other state.

Disappointing that skaters are quick to jump on a black owned company just starting out, saying it’s half-assed.
 

[augustmoon]

but it is half assed.  objectively. 

[PatrickSkateman]

but it is half assed.  objectively.

Half assed or just limited starting budget? It’s not like there’s a Pendleton/Hecox/Cliver/McKee on retainer for art direction.

[theloniousmonk]

Self help books are tight, connecting with your inner is like connecting with your board. Not sure about the financial ones but
A good entry point is you are a badass, shit is mad funny and will make you feel good
Skate twitter dudes are probably on some inner turmoil, kyle beachy shit, like let’s talk this out when they should skate and get into the body more and out of the brain

[DCLOVE]

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but it is half assed.  objectively.

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Half assed or just limited starting budget? It’s not like there’s a Pendleton/Hecox/Cliver/McKee on retainer for art direction.

Tyshawn has a high end suv in a city known for it public transport , a restaurant and a gang of expensive dogs. I think he can afford a couple grand on some art.

this brand is literally using public domain art and by the looks of it like zero overhead . They’re spending almost zero money to even have a brand, that’s not low budget that’s just being cheap.

King skateboards is essentially a drop shipping brand.

[PatrickSkateman]

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but it is half assed.  objectively.

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Half assed or just limited starting budget? It’s not like there’s a Pendleton/Hecox/Cliver/McKee on retainer for art direction.

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well, that's exactly why it's half assed. tyshawn has the funds to renovate houses and open a restaurant and buy nice cars, i have a very hard time imagining he doesn't have the money to put into this brand as much as he doesn't think he needs to put the money into the brand (not to mention he has no real ideas or vision for this brand on a grand scale)

The decks I’ve seen in shops look good, especially the King of Pop one.

Violet, FA, Hockey, and even Quasi follow the same formula art wise. Even Frog gets love and we’ve all seen their graphics…

Renovating houses isn’t cheap, especially properties in New York.

The tax man gets most of your gross revenue, double or triple that in NY.

A skateboard company doesn’t bring in much in terms of hardgoods, though the starting costs are low. Board sponsors never paid much. How King scales in terms of softgoods is TBD.

[RichardBarkley]

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but it is half assed.  objectively.

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Half assed or just limited starting budget? It’s not like there’s a Pendleton/Hecox/Cliver/McKee on retainer for art direction.

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well, that's exactly why it's half assed. tyshawn has the funds to renovate houses and open a restaurant and buy nice cars, i have a very hard time imagining he doesn't have the money to put into this brand as much as he doesn't think he needs to put the money into the brand (not to mention he has no real ideas or vision for this brand on a grand scale)

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The decks I’ve seen in shops look good, especially the King of Pop one.

Violet, FA, Hockey, and even Quasi follow the same formula art wise. Even Frog gets love and we’ve all seen their graphics…

Renovating houses isn’t cheap, especially properties in New York.

The tax man gets most of your gross revenue, double or triple that in NY.

A skateboard company doesn’t bring in much in terms of hardgoods, though the starting costs are low. Board sponsors never paid much. How King scales in terms of softgoods is TBD.

What?

Are you compus mentis?

[PatrickSkateman]

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but it is half assed.  objectively.

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Half assed or just limited starting budget? It’s not like there’s a Pendleton/Hecox/Cliver/McKee on retainer for art direction.

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well, that's exactly why it's half assed. tyshawn has the funds to renovate houses and open a restaurant and buy nice cars, i have a very hard time imagining he doesn't have the money to put into this brand as much as he doesn't think he needs to put the money into the brand (not to mention he has no real ideas or vision for this brand on a grand scale)

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The decks I’ve seen in shops look good, especially the King of Pop one.

Violet, FA, Hockey, and even Quasi follow the same formula art wise. Even Frog gets love and we’ve all seen their graphics…

Renovating houses isn’t cheap, especially properties in New York.

The tax man gets most of your gross revenue, double or triple that in NY.

A skateboard company doesn’t bring in much in terms of hardgoods, though the starting costs are low. Board sponsors never paid much. How King scales in terms of softgoods is TBD.

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What?

Are you compus mentis?

I am, actually.

I also buy a lot of Quasi decks.

[RichardBarkley]

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but it is half assed.  objectively.

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Half assed or just limited starting budget? It’s not like there’s a Pendleton/Hecox/Cliver/McKee on retainer for art direction.

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well, that's exactly why it's half assed. tyshawn has the funds to renovate houses and open a restaurant and buy nice cars, i have a very hard time imagining he doesn't have the money to put into this brand as much as he doesn't think he needs to put the money into the brand (not to mention he has no real ideas or vision for this brand on a grand scale)

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The decks I’ve seen in shops look good, especially the King of Pop one.

Violet, FA, Hockey, and even Quasi follow the same formula art wise. Even Frog gets love and we’ve all seen their graphics…

Renovating houses isn’t cheap, especially properties in New York.

The tax man gets most of your gross revenue, double or triple that in NY.

A skateboard company doesn’t bring in much in terms of hardgoods, though the starting costs are low. Board sponsors never paid much. How King scales in terms of softgoods is TBD.

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What?

Are you compus mentis?

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I am, actually.

I also buy a lot of Quasi decks.

It's an interesting opinion. I'll give you that much.

[Warmup]

rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble

[manysnakes]

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On second thought, this might seem like putting the cart before the horse, but I believe Tyshawn has a lot of "The Power of Positive Thinking" and "The Secret" energy in him, and this is another attempt to manifest his destiny as great and powerful individual.

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yes tyshawn is totally a woo/self-help book kind of guy, i remember he posted a photo of “rich dad poor dad” on his ig stories and people on #skatetwitter were like noooo, tyshawn nooooooo!

lmao. There's no skateboarding demographic more annoying to me than the "skater who went to college". We all know the type.

[KGB]

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but it is half assed.  objectively.

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Half assed or just limited starting budget? It’s not like there’s a Pendleton/Hecox/Cliver/McKee on retainer for art direction.

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well, that's exactly why it's half assed. tyshawn has the funds to renovate houses and open a restaurant and buy nice cars, i have a very hard time imagining he doesn't have the money to put into this brand as much as he doesn't think he needs to put the money into the brand (not to mention he has no real ideas or vision for this brand on a grand scale)

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The decks I’ve seen in shops look good, especially the King of Pop one.

Violet, FA, Hockey, and even Quasi follow the same formula art wise. Even Frog gets love and we’ve all seen their graphics…

Renovating houses isn’t cheap, especially properties in New York.

The tax man gets most of your gross revenue, double or triple that in NY.

A skateboard company doesn’t bring in much in terms of hardgoods, though the starting costs are low. Board sponsors never paid much. How King scales in terms of softgoods is TBD.

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What?

Are you compus mentis?

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I am, actually.

I also buy a lot of Quasi decks.

Quasi? Your tripping bro. You obviously DONT by a lot of Quasi decks. OR, you have never seen the other ones.

[manysnakes]

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but it is half assed.  objectively.

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Half assed or just limited starting budget? It’s not like there’s a Pendleton/Hecox/Cliver/McKee on retainer for art direction.

Do we really think that there are no talented, eager young graphic designers in New York who could put some kind of direction into King's product for a low price and the chance to work with a two-time SOTY winner and fixture of adidas? That his only option is to pull images from Wikipedia?

[WPG]

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but it is half assed.  objectively.

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Half assed or just limited starting budget? It’s not like there’s a Pendleton/Hecox/Cliver/McKee on retainer for art direction.

Half assed, like lots of stuff he does remember Brick Underneath? Started it at the same time as King (smart thinking real business genius) and their first drop still hasn't sold out https://brickunderneath.com/products/100-boxer

If anything the limited starting budget just shows his lack of awareness and business sense

He suceeded with hardies and his restraunt to an extent (3.8 star reviews are nothing to write home about, but I'm sure in your eyes people haven't given it a fair chance) and assumed he had the Midas touch so the board company would just work out

[El Chupacabra]

Isnt "zenith" the peak/apex of something?


Implying its all downhill from here?

[PatrickSkateman]

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but it is half assed.  objectively.

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Half assed or just limited starting budget? It’s not like there’s a Pendleton/Hecox/Cliver/McKee on retainer for art direction.

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well, that's exactly why it's half assed. tyshawn has the funds to renovate houses and open a restaurant and buy nice cars, i have a very hard time imagining he doesn't have the money to put into this brand as much as he doesn't think he needs to put the money into the brand (not to mention he has no real ideas or vision for this brand on a grand scale)

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The decks I’ve seen in shops look good, especially the King of Pop one.

Violet, FA, Hockey, and even Quasi follow the same formula art wise. Even Frog gets love and we’ve all seen their graphics…

Renovating houses isn’t cheap, especially properties in New York.

The tax man gets most of your gross revenue, double or triple that in NY.

A skateboard company doesn’t bring in much in terms of hardgoods, though the starting costs are low. Board sponsors never paid much. How King scales in terms of softgoods is TBD.

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What?

Are you compus mentis?

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I am, actually.

I also buy a lot of Quasi decks.

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Quasi? Your tripping bro. You obviously DONT by a lot of Quasi decks. OR, you have never seen the other ones.

Collages, photos, and pics of other people’s art. Even Anti Hero clowned on their collage art.

I love the company to death, but they had to change their name because they couldn’t do due diligence and didn’t file a trademark.

[PatrickSkateman]

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but it is half assed.  objectively.

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Half assed or just limited starting budget? It’s not like there’s a Pendleton/Hecox/Cliver/McKee on retainer for art direction.

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Half assed, like lots of stuff he does remember Brick Underneath? Started it at the same time as King (smart thinking real business genius) and their first drop still hasn't sold out https://brickunderneath.com/products/100-boxer

If anything the limited starting budget just shows his lack of awareness and business sense

He suceeded with hardies and his restraunt to an extent (3.8 star reviews are nothing to write home about, but I'm sure in your eyes people haven't given it a fair chance) and assumed he had the Midas touch so the board company would just work out

Looks like all he’s got left is an XL in one style of boxer, I couldn’t imagine that the remaining XL constitutes half-assed.

There are trademarks for Brick Underneath and an LLC for King. Both filed a year apart. That doesn’t telegraph half-assed to me.

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but it is half assed.  objectively.

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Half assed or just limited starting budget? It’s not like there’s a Pendleton/Hecox/Cliver/McKee on retainer for art direction.

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Half assed, like lots of stuff he does remember Brick Underneath? Started it at the same time as King (smart thinking real business genius) and their first drop still hasn't sold out https://brickunderneath.com/products/100-boxer

If anything the limited starting budget just shows his lack of awareness and business sense

He suceeded with hardies and his restraunt to an extent (3.8 star reviews are nothing to write home about, but I'm sure in your eyes people haven't given it a fair chance) and assumed he had the Midas touch so the board company would just work out

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Looks like all he’s got left is an XL in one style of boxer, I couldn’t imagine that the remaining XL constitutes half-assed.

There are trademarks for Brick Underneath and an LLC for King. Both filed a year apart. That doesn’t telegraph half-assed to me.

if youre XXL that XL might literally be half assed though

[PatrickSkateman]

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but it is half assed.  objectively.

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Half assed or just limited starting budget? It’s not like there’s a Pendleton/Hecox/Cliver/McKee on retainer for art direction.

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Half assed, like lots of stuff he does remember Brick Underneath? Started it at the same time as King (smart thinking real business genius) and their first drop still hasn't sold out https://brickunderneath.com/products/100-boxer

If anything the limited starting budget just shows his lack of awareness and business sense

He suceeded with hardies and his restraunt to an extent (3.8 star reviews are nothing to write home about, but I'm sure in your eyes people haven't given it a fair chance) and assumed he had the Midas touch so the board company would just work out

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Looks like all he’s got left is an XL in one style of boxer, I couldn’t imagine that the remaining XL constitutes half-assed.

There are trademarks for Brick Underneath and an LLC for King. Both filed a year apart. That doesn’t telegraph half-assed to me.

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if youre XXL that XL might literally be half assed though

Probably 3/4 assed. 😂

[veritas]

Wish he'd develop the company more but id probably prioritize flipping houses too. One house probably turns more profit than a small board brand does in a year

[WPG]

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but it is half assed.  objectively.

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Half assed or just limited starting budget? It’s not like there’s a Pendleton/Hecox/Cliver/McKee on retainer for art direction.

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Half assed, like lots of stuff he does remember Brick Underneath? Started it at the same time as King (smart thinking real business genius) and their first drop still hasn't sold out https://brickunderneath.com/products/100-boxer

If anything the limited starting budget just shows his lack of awareness and business sense

He suceeded with hardies and his restraunt to an extent (3.8 star reviews are nothing to write home about, but I'm sure in your eyes people haven't given it a fair chance) and assumed he had the Midas touch so the board company would just work out

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Looks like all he’s got left is an XL in one style of boxer, I couldn’t imagine that the remaining XL constitutes half-assed.

There are trademarks for Brick Underneath and an LLC for King. Both filed a year apart. That doesn’t telegraph half-assed to me.

Personally I'm not up to date with Tyshawns trademarks, that being said idc when he registered for trademarks bricks first ad was in August or September last year and King was announced in October for the general. Taking into account Thrasher prints mags like a month or 2 early let's say June to give them benefit of the doubt. That's still only 4-5 Months between launching the 2 brands. IDGAF when he filed a trademark.

Also big ups to black John D. Rockefeller for ALMOST selling out his boxers in a year's time

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but it is half assed.  objectively.

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Half assed or just limited starting budget? It’s not like there’s a Pendleton/Hecox/Cliver/McKee on retainer for art direction.

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Half assed, like lots of stuff he does remember Brick Underneath? Started it at the same time as King (smart thinking real business genius) and their first drop still hasn't sold out https://brickunderneath.com/products/100-boxer

If anything the limited starting budget just shows his lack of awareness and business sense

He suceeded with hardies and his restraunt to an extent (3.8 star reviews are nothing to write home about, but I'm sure in your eyes people haven't given it a fair chance) and assumed he had the Midas touch so the board company would just work out

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Looks like all he’s got left is an XL in one style of boxer, I couldn’t imagine that the remaining XL constitutes half-assed.

There are trademarks for Brick Underneath and an LLC for King. Both filed a year apart. That doesn’t telegraph half-assed to me.

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Personally I'm not up to date with Tyshawns trademarks, that being said idc when he registered for trademarks bricks first ad was in August or September last year and King was announced in October for the general. Taking into account Thrasher prints mags like a month or 2 early let's say June to give them benefit of the doubt. That's still only 4-5 Months between launching the 2 brands. IDGAF when he filed a trademark.

Also bug ups to black John D. Rockefeller for ALMOST selling out his boxers in a year's time

Idgaf when he filed a trademark either, but the fact that he did proves it’s not half-assed. He didn’t pull a Mother Collective at the start, he did his due diligence.

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On second thought, this might seem like putting the cart before the horse, but I believe Tyshawn has a lot of "The Power of Positive Thinking" and "The Secret" energy in him, and this is another attempt to manifest his destiny as great and powerful individual.

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yes tyshawn is totally a woo/self-help book kind of guy, i remember he posted a photo of “rich dad poor dad” on his ig stories and people on #skatetwitter were like noooo, tyshawn nooooooo!

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Wait, people actually hate that book? It’s a book on investing and financial literacy.

Can’t knock a guy from Soundview Bronx trying to make the most of the opportunity he’s got. Soundview isn’t Williamsburg or Bushwick with the new residents getting subsidized by their parents in some other state.

Disappointing that skaters are quick to jump on a black owned company just starting out, saying it’s half-assed.

. probably being black owned has nothing do with it

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but it is half assed.  objectively.

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Half assed or just limited starting budget? It’s not like there’s a Pendleton/Hecox/Cliver/McKee on retainer for art direction.

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Half assed, like lots of stuff he does remember Brick Underneath? Started it at the same time as King (smart thinking real business genius) and their first drop still hasn't sold out https://brickunderneath.com/products/100-boxer

If anything the limited starting budget just shows his lack of awareness and business sense

He suceeded with hardies and his restraunt to an extent (3.8 star reviews are nothing to write home about, but I'm sure in your eyes people haven't given it a fair chance) and assumed he had the Midas touch so the board company would just work out

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Looks like all he’s got left is an XL in one style of boxer, I couldn’t imagine that the remaining XL constitutes half-assed.

There are trademarks for Brick Underneath and an LLC for King. Both filed a year apart. That doesn’t telegraph half-assed to me.

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Personally I'm not up to date with Tyshawns trademarks, that being said idc when he registered for trademarks bricks first ad was in August or September last year and King was announced in October for the general. Taking into account Thrasher prints mags like a month or 2 early let's say June to give them benefit of the doubt. That's still only 4-5 Months between launching the 2 brands. IDGAF when he filed a trademark.

Also bug ups to black John D. Rockefeller for ALMOST selling out his boxers in a year's time

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Idgaf when he filed a trademark either, but the fact that he did proves it’s not half-assed. He didn’t pull a Mother Collective at the start, he did his due diligence.

oh I see, good point

[Bread Harrity]

Wish he'd develop the company more but id probably prioritize flipping houses too. One house probably turns more profit than a small board brand does in a year

that is definitely true, but then why start a board brand at all?

[jakeumms]

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Wish he'd develop the company more but id probably prioritize flipping houses too. One house probably turns more profit than a small board brand does in a year

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that is definitely true, but then why start a board brand at all?

As a tax write off and a platform that he has complete control of

[thespacewolf]

[l1ll1ll1]

Nothing wrong with promoting Michael Jackson, after all he is the king, amirite.

Puh.