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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #60 on: November 22, 2022, 11:15:44 PM »
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These stories of the absolute ramshackle quality of their clothing intrigue me. Does anybody else have any tales of buying four star clothing only to have your pants split an hour later?
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Idk if I got lucky or what. Everything I had from Fourstar when I was actually hucking and slamming a lot outlasted almost everything else except Volcom. I still have a longsleeve with the pirate logo and a pair of jeans that have outlasted 3 pairs of Carhartts. My longest lasting favorite shirt was also Fourstar now that I think about it but I lost it after about 8 years of use.

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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #61 on: November 23, 2022, 01:41:36 AM »
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Wasnít Fourstar one of the reasons why Koston and Giy left Crail on bad terms?
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Yeah thatís what I keep trying get going on here.   From what I remember, they secretly took the company away from those two aka the founders
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From what I heard it was the opposite. Guy and Koston (plus Ishod and CK etc) were all getting big add ons to their Nike deals to package footwear and clothing as one sponsor, also lots of pressure to do so. Nike wanted those guys in head to toe Nike gear at street league etc. It was more money than those guys had trickling in from 4* so they bailed to take that check.

definitely not. tom gavin wouldnít have cried in kostonís epicly laterd about them getting good apparel deals. something big got fucked with them and lakai that exposed the really flimsy foundation crail had

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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #62 on: November 23, 2022, 02:03:35 AM »
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Completely forgot Julian Davis was on fourstar
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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #63 on: November 23, 2022, 02:11:27 AM »
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These stories of the absolute ramshackle quality of their clothing intrigue me. Does anybody else have any tales of buying four star clothing only to have your pants split an hour later?
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Idk if I got lucky or what. Everything I had from Fourstar when I was actually hucking and slamming a lot outlasted almost everything else except Volcom. I still have a longsleeve with the pirate logo and a pair of jeans that have outlasted 3 pairs of Carhartts. My longest lasting favorite shirt was also Fourstar now that I think about it but I lost it after about 8 years of use.

I have similar experiences. I still have a black BA signature t-shirt from like 10 years ago with dozens and dozens of washes, still soft and very wearable. I also have a CK fleece hoody from like 5 years back which is kinda ugly but I love it, so comfy, my favorite hoody.

And the real pearl: street pirate knitted sweater from at least 15 years ago. Still break it out for christmas dinners etc.

I definitely agree that the world doesn't need any more shit quality clothing but if the quality is there, re-launching Four Star doesn't seem like the worst idea in this era of fashion. Sure it's mostly for 40 year olds nostalgia trippers but there are plenty of us.

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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #64 on: November 23, 2022, 02:28:49 AM »
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Wasnít Fourstar one of the reasons why Koston and Giy left Crail on bad terms?
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Yeah thatís what I keep trying get going on here.   From what I remember, they secretly took the company away from those two aka the founders
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From what I heard it was the opposite. Guy and Koston (plus Ishod and CK etc) were all getting big add ons to their Nike deals to package footwear and clothing as one sponsor, also lots of pressure to do so. Nike wanted those guys in head to toe Nike gear at street league etc. It was more money than those guys had trickling in from 4* so they bailed to take that check.
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definitely not. tom gavin wouldnít have cried in kostonís epicly laterd about them getting good apparel deals. something big got fucked with them and lakai that exposed the really flimsy foundation crail had

Well something shady was going on at Podium which precipitated Koston leaving Lakai.   I think that was established in that EL

The impression I got when he and Guy left Crail was that when the venture capital firm that came in and bought a piece of Crail, some fishy paperwork was shuffled around that took ownership of Fourstar away from Guy and Eric (and maybe the Royal founders - guy and Rudy?). 

Whether this is just Slap apocrypha or not, itís hard to say.   Skateboarding doesnít really have a paper of record for me to cite sources.   

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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #65 on: November 23, 2022, 05:52:28 AM »
Thanks again to whoever was dropping tons of 4* samples at the Buffalo Exchange on Broadway in Denver 10+ years ago.  Kept my broke self semi fresh
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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #66 on: November 23, 2022, 06:23:27 AM »
I just think itís really hard to skate in LA and be in the industry as much as Carroll and Howard are and to not run into Guy and Koston. So do they have beef when they see each other? Do they ignore each other? Because I canít imagine skateboarding with someone for 10+ years and then just never talk to them or want to skate with them.

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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #67 on: November 23, 2022, 06:30:48 AM »
Ive been a big fan and wearing Fourstar since like 2009ish. Never had any complaints about their quality other than a few of their basic cotton tees that shrunk to a M from a L. Lot of their stuff I still wear that I wore bunch in HS that's holding up well.

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Love this collab, might need everything minus the tshirt haha

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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #68 on: November 23, 2022, 06:37:45 AM »
ďOne paper thin, skull and cross-crusierboard logo tshirt please!Ē

Maybe kids will like it like I did in 2008, but I definitely couldnít be seen dead in that now haha. Lookin like I just strolled out of my 6 year old nephewís arts & crafts screen printing birthday party where someone dressed as Jack Sparrow helped them make tshirts designs on primark blanks.

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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #69 on: November 23, 2022, 09:00:09 AM »
Anyone remember that four star gonz vision graphic shirt they made

When I was younger I was psyched on it. Looking back weird to just rock a shirt with a strangers face. I think they ended up rereleasing it with CK1's face on it. 

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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #70 on: November 23, 2022, 09:02:42 AM »
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Wasnít Fourstar one of the reasons why Koston and Giy left Crail on bad terms?
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Yeah thatís what I keep trying get going on here.   From what I remember, they secretly took the company away from those two aka the founders
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From what I heard it was the opposite. Guy and Koston (plus Ishod and CK etc) were all getting big add ons to their Nike deals to package footwear and clothing as one sponsor, also lots of pressure to do so. Nike wanted those guys in head to toe Nike gear at street league etc. It was more money than those guys had trickling in from 4* so they bailed to take that check.
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definitely not. tom gavin wouldnít have cried in kostonís epicly laterd about them getting good apparel deals. something big got fucked with them and lakai that exposed the really flimsy foundation crail had
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Well something shady was going on at Podium which precipitated Koston leaving Lakai.   I think that was established in that EL

The impression I got when he and Guy left Crail was that when the venture capital firm that came in and bought a piece of Crail, some fishy paperwork was shuffled around that took ownership of Fourstar away from Guy and Eric (and maybe the Royal founders - guy and Rudy?). 

Whether this is just Slap apocrypha or not, itís hard to say.   Skateboarding doesnít really have a paper of record for me to cite sources.

That's what I remember reading somewhere is when the firm bought it they had access to the accounting books. Someone on the firm side noticed that Koston and Guy we're not getting the cut they were owed and only a percentage. I don't think Rick and Mike were necessarily stealing it for themselves but reinvesting it into Crail to keep it afloat. Memories fuzzy.

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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #71 on: November 23, 2022, 11:35:28 AM »
I just think itís really hard to skate in LA and be in the industry as much as Carroll and Howard are and to not run into Guy and Koston. So do they have beef when they see each other? Do they ignore each other? Because I canít imagine skateboarding with someone for 10+ years and then just never talk to them or want to skate with them.

"Best friends" or close friends stop speaking regularly in real life. Can't be any different because these guys are skate bros. / legends. Money and business ruin friendships routinely.

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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #72 on: November 23, 2022, 12:47:38 PM »
I just think itís really hard to skate in LA and be in the industry as much as Carroll and Howard are and to not run into Guy and Koston. So do they have beef when they see each other? Do they ignore each other? Because I canít imagine skateboarding with someone for 10+ years and then just never talk to them or want to skate with them.
Lets be real, Guy is the only one of the four out in the streets.

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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #73 on: November 23, 2022, 02:30:09 PM »
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Simply put, I just didnít want to go along with it. But it happened anyway and I wasnít happy with the way it all unfolded. I never wanted to go start a company at age 40. That was never in the plans. For the longest time, I never thought that I would ever leave Girl but things changed.

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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #74 on: November 23, 2022, 04:58:43 PM »
Here is some existing Fourstar stuff for dirt cheap.

https://tgmskateboards.com/brands/Fourstar.html?sort=priceasc&page=1
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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #75 on: November 23, 2022, 06:27:44 PM »
Here is some existing Fourstar stuff for dirt cheap.

https://tgmskateboards.com/brands/Fourstar.html?sort=priceasc&page=1

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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #76 on: November 23, 2022, 06:33:40 PM »
Here is some existing Fourstar stuff for dirt cheap.

https://tgmskateboards.com/brands/Fourstar.html?sort=priceasc&page=1
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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #77 on: November 23, 2022, 06:51:21 PM »
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Here is some existing Fourstar stuff for dirt cheap.

https://tgmskateboards.com/brands/Fourstar.html?sort=priceasc&page=1
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Very reliable for the most part, ordered Fourstar products a few times and all item were in great condition and in stock. Only 1 Harsh Euro Barge t-shirt was out of stock, would have been cool to snag that piece of memorabilia
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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #78 on: November 23, 2022, 07:01:09 PM »
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Here is some existing Fourstar stuff for dirt cheap.

https://tgmskateboards.com/brands/Fourstar.html?sort=priceasc&page=1
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Very reliable for the most part, ordered Fourstar products a few times and all item were in great condition and in stock. Only 1 Harsh Euro Barge t-shirt was out of stock, would have been cool to snag that piece of memorabilia

Thanks! Ordered a Beanie!

Personally I love Fourstar. ALL of their videos are filled with insane skating and good vibes. The products look dope as fuck and have not failed me quality wise. I even bought a jacket twice because I lost it and loved it so much. Stoked on the comeback.



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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #79 on: November 23, 2022, 07:09:24 PM »
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Here is some existing Fourstar stuff for dirt cheap.

https://tgmskateboards.com/brands/Fourstar.html?sort=priceasc&page=1
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I've bought plenty of hard goods from TGM without any issues. Others on here have had negative experiences though (warped/blemished decks IIRC). I'm assuming if it's soft goods it'll be fine.

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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #80 on: November 23, 2022, 07:18:42 PM »
Iíve had a fourstar lined coaches jacket for years, itís pretty fucked up now but I still wear it to work regularly

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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #81 on: November 24, 2022, 07:04:14 PM »

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I ordered a set of trucks  like 3 years ago, they are pretty good.

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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #82 on: November 25, 2022, 12:35:48 AM »
Honestly, I don't know if I was a one-off, as well, but 4Star apparel was always quality to me. I had t shirts, hats, and recently a dead stock beanie (TGM buy. Jan. 2021) from who knows when, and a button up since I was a fan back in 2006.  Never saw any issues with these. Maybe their pants were bad but everything else was standard fare?

I'd love to see them back and blend the youthful vigor of what made them dope but also be subtle for the adults who grew up with it.

I hope this one-off collaboration is a springboard for 4Star
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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #83 on: November 25, 2022, 10:24:34 AM »
Yeah I hope 4star comes back strong. I had Max Schaff pants and they were the best but did end up ripping after a few years of heavy use. Superchampionfunzone is my fave
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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #84 on: November 25, 2022, 05:02:48 PM »
Imagine if they had made a full video when Reynolds and Keenan were still on. That woulda been one for the ages...

I miss the look and quality of their ads. They had a good thing going for awhile. Clean and crispy.




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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #85 on: November 25, 2022, 05:53:31 PM »
Imagine if they had made a full video when Reynolds and Keenan were still on. That woulda been one for the ages...

I miss the look and quality of their ads. They had a good thing going for awhile. Clean and crispy.




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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #86 on: November 25, 2022, 08:37:30 PM »
That Reynolds sequence could have been an Independent ad with that massive sticker.
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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #87 on: November 26, 2022, 02:57:36 AM »
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Imagine if they had made a full video when Reynolds and Keenan were still on. That woulda been one for the ages...

I miss the look and quality of their ads. They had a good thing going for awhile. Clean and crispy.



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God damn, what a team.

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The team and ads of pre-2002 Four Star were so good it hurts!!!!

But wasn't Four Star the Mariano & Koston's Crailtap clothing brand?? If that being truth how can 4 Star come back???
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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #88 on: November 26, 2022, 09:00:55 AM »
manchild is a wet blanket on any skate video he is in... just cant stand him.

at what age does it become embarrassing to go by a nickname for marketing purposes?
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Re: Fourstar is back?
« Reply #89 on: November 26, 2022, 09:18:13 AM »
manchild is a wet blanket on any skate video he is in... just cant stand him.

at what age does it become embarrassing to go by a nickname for marketing purposes?

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