Skate Logic and Efficiency and Random Stylistic Pet Peeves

[HiResDes]

Now I can't recall how this got instilled in me, but it irks the fuck out of me when most skaters change stances in the middle of a line without reason. Like if you do a tailslide to fakie and then you switch back to regular that shit is wack to me based on like movement efficiency and style logic. I can't be alone in this weird OCD outlook on shit. If you use a fakie trick as filler and switch back around to regular for no reason the style gods will punish you in your skate afterlife.

[Atiba Applebum]

I think Ricky Oyola was pretty vocal about that very issue.   It bugs me on a case by case scenario. 

Did Tyshawn regular pushing into his switch Ollie (or secret switch mongo) bother you too?

[GrayCellGreen]

I'm not a fan of it. At least throw a switch front or back 180 to get back to regular. Even a frontside half cab would suffice

[manysnakes]

Koston is possibly the biggest offender in this regard.

I used to care, but now that ride-on grinds, lifting your tail or nose to to a trick without ollieing, etc. are all deemed valid, I figure it may be time to let go.

[Mean salto]

I think MJ's done multiple lines where he's landed fakie swapped back to regs then done another trick to fakie and swapped back to regs again.

What about the shove it instead of a 180?

[boi-cuzudo]

I guess only OCD people care about that sort of stuff

[BurgerCop]

I'd prefer using even a simple trick to turn around but it doesn't irk me too bad.

If someone on the sesh skates really stiff, like locking their knees and elbows while doing tricks, I won't watch them.
I don't want to see it when something gruesome happens to you.

[HiResDes]

I think Ricky Oyola was pretty vocal about that very issue.   It bugs me on a case by case scenario. 

Did Tyshawn regular pushing into his switch Ollie (or secret switch mongo) bother you too?

Not really, but it would have been cooler if he had switch mongo pushed up to it

[HiResDes]

I'd prefer using even a simple trick to turn around but it doesn't irk me too bad.

If someone on the sesh skates really stiff, like locking their knees and elbows while doing tricks, I won't watch them.
I don't want to see it when something gruesome happens to you.

I mean if you do like a swaggy switch bs 180 or something cool to turn around then yeah I'm down with that

[WorldsbestWeedsm0ker]

i actually like the random stance switch stuff sometimes - like when van wastel does it it looked natural and even stylish.

[Molte]

It is a valid thing to do, and can be an actually quite tasteful thing to do if done right, but only if it serves a purpose for creating a coherence and/or tension between the trick before and after.

If done with no other purpose than creating an option to present the two hardest tricks possible combined in a line, it doesn’t look good.

But then again, this is how I look at it through todays paradime. For the time when Oyola laid out his thoughts on the matter, I would agree for how skateboarding looked back then.

I think it came in as a second wave, after the re-introduction of wallies, no complies,  slappies etc. around 2010 +/- (2 years?), and obliterated the paradime which had been evolving in a straight line since the early 90’s.

[big_kev_215]

Ricky Oyola (if I’m not mistaken) also does a flatground kickflip body varial in a line in 7 Year Glitch, so I take all of his opinions and rules for others with a grain of salt

[Chavo]

This dude in my neighborhood "invented" back smith 360 body varials. Following your line of reasoning, he didn't change stance, therefore, his trick is ideal. It may also be more efficient to roll past the ledge completely without doing a trick.

[gnidraobetaks]

like why start in missionary when you both just want it doggystyle.

[BurgerCop]

like why start in missionary when you both just want it doggystyle.

Because we build up to that, the bashfulness is a part of the journey.

[HiResDes]

Ricky Oyola (if I’m not mistaken) also does a flatground kickflip body varial in a line in 7 Year Glitch, so I take all of his opinions and rules for others with a grain of salt

Now here's the important question does he follow that with something switch or fakie lol

[behavioralguide]

I was definitely brought up under the oyola ruleset but I feel like a switcharound can be just as tastfull as long as it feels natural.

It also works better with bs to fakie turning tricks as the mongo-turning-into-regular-push looks less jarring.

Shout to ginos sw fs tailslide back to switch, then fakie revert and van wastells line with three 180/to fakie tricks and three reverts at that schoolyard

[ziggy]

I don’t give a fuck what Ricky Oyola thinks

[mooraga]

nowadays guys seem to do whatever they want in the stance-change game, its still weird but sometimes works fine

I try to stick to those old sacred rules but sometimes I say fuck it and don't 

[ok boomer]

stanky leg on 3 flips is horrifying