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Thereís not a local scene around me for vert and bowl skating and my local park has one of the largest bowl features in NC. I think itís a 12ft deep, 8ft shallow. Itís so large that most folks leave it alone or at most will cruise 4ft below the coping. Most of the mini ramp and quarter skating I come across doesnít translate to the really big stuff. Or at least, Iím having a hard time connecting the differences.

What are some good channels, classic videos, and individuals to follow to get a better sense of where vert and bowl skating is, has been, and where itís headed?

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Re: What are some good resources for progression in vert/bowl skating?
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2023, 09:28:14 AM »
This is one I found years ago: https://youtu.be/TZiIf4FOta0

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Re: What are some good resources for progression in vert/bowl skating?
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2023, 03:11:36 AM »
Thereís not a local scene around me for vert and bowl skating and my local park has one of the largest bowl features in NC. I think itís a 12ft deep, 8ft shallow. Itís so large that most folks leave it alone or at most will cruise 4ft below the coping. Most of the mini ramp and quarter skating I come across doesnít translate to the really big stuff. Or at least, Iím having a hard time connecting the differences.

What are some good channels, classic videos, and individuals to follow to get a better sense of where vert and bowl skating is, has been, and where itís headed?

Jeff Grosso's channel 'love letters to skateboarding' was/is awesome for the history of transition skating, including some modern stuff. Idk if it'll link properly but this is the playlist to the entire series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE6YUN1cQ9s&list=PLdmGwCM1y8N1dVGqCwNV5w5SCXbRvFKMW

As far as where it's headed I think it's hard to say, it's certainly not very popular with younger skaters. It doesn't help when companies build parks that have 12/8ft bowls at a skatepark next to a 4ft mini ramp with nothing in-between.

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Re: What are some good resources for progression in vert/bowl skating?
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2023, 03:13:30 AM »
Didn't work, try this link to see the full playlist

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdmGwCM1y8N1dVGqCwNV5w5SCXbRvFKMW

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Re: What are some good resources for progression in vert/bowl skating?
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2023, 04:04:33 AM »
As far as trick tips and advice kinda stuff... That "Big Al" (Al Brunelle @BigAlSkateTutorials on yotub) guy had some okay videos. He seems like your average socal douche though and is affiliated with that fried bozo Zack Dowdy so be forewarned. https://www.youtube.com/@trogarmy/ seems like a pretty chill guy and is more focused on beginner stuff but still skates big ramps and bowls.

I don't know this all might be total dogshit to you but some stuff I used to watch anyway.

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Re: What are some good resources for progression in vert/bowl skating?
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2023, 09:51:52 AM »
Didn't work, try this link to see the full playlist

Thanks for linking the whole playlist, I'll check this out.

As far as trick tips and advice kinda stuff... That "Big Al" (Al Brunelle @BigAlSkateTutorials on yotub) guy had some okay videos. He seems like your average socal douche though and is affiliated with that fried bozo Zack Dowdy so be forewarned. https://www.youtube.com/@trogarmy/ seems like a pretty chill guy and is more focused on beginner stuff but still skates big ramps and bowls.

I don't know this all might be total dogshit to you but some stuff I used to watch anyway.

Ah, this looks worth diving into.

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Re: What are some good resources for progression in vert/bowl skating?
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2023, 10:00:33 AM »
Are you having issues because you're used to pivoting and doing stalls on smaller stuff vs carving into the coping and holding grinds?

I personally like Shin Sanbongi and the loose surfy style style apposed to like Oski more "technical" style.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUiduJNths4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6MLJbP_BZc




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Re: What are some good resources for progression in vert/bowl skating?
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2023, 10:42:45 AM »
Are you having issues because you're used to pivoting and doing stalls on smaller stuff vs carving into the coping and holding grinds?

I personally like Shin Sanbongi and the loose surfy style style apposed to like Oski more "technical" style.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUiduJNths4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6MLJbP_BZc

Iím inspired by surf influenced styles, Iíll check out Sanbongi.

I think for me, itís coping and airs fear. I can blast carves around but actually doing stuff is where Iím having a mental hangup.

Iím beginning to try fly outs and small hip airs to try to work up to it.

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Re: What are some good resources for progression in vert/bowl skating?
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2023, 12:21:51 PM »
I actually just found an old Thrasher video from when my local park was new: https://youtu.be/J4yCCP86SPY

Itís kinda trashed now, but this gives an idea of the size.

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Re: What are some good resources for progression in vert/bowl skating?
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2023, 01:22:23 PM »
I actually just found an old Thrasher video from when my local park was new: https://youtu.be/J4yCCP86SPY

Itís kinda trashed now, but this gives an idea of the size.

no way, I skated that park like 3 years ago when I was in Raleigh lol

yeah that bowl was pretty gnarly
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Re: What are some good resources for progression in vert/bowl skating?
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2023, 08:23:14 PM »
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That place looks crazy big, but we don't have a whole lot of that sort of stuff here in AU.

To me, dudes like Omar Hassan, Peter Hewitt and as seen in that video Grant Taylor are always good to watch on big transition, with Omar doing a series of how to videos on some channel from a while ago.

There is also the "Transition help thread" here if that has anything you might deem useful:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=114852.0

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Re: What are some good resources for progression in vert/bowl skating?
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2023, 01:46:34 AM »
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That place looks crazy big, but we don't have a whole lot of that sort of stuff here in AU.

To me, dudes like Omar Hassan, Peter Hewitt and as seen in that video Grant Taylor are always good to watch on big transition, with Omar doing a series of how to videos on some channel from a while ago.

There is also the "Transition help thread" here if that has anything you might deem useful:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=114852.0

It kinda sucks how rare it is to find transition over 6ft in Australia yet almost every park in the USA has 9ft transition at least

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Re: What are some good resources for progression in vert/bowl skating?
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2023, 02:59:11 AM »
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That place looks crazy big, but we don't have a whole lot of that sort of stuff here in AU.

To me, dudes like Omar Hassan, Peter Hewitt and as seen in that video Grant Taylor are always good to watch on big transition, with Omar doing a series of how to videos on some channel from a while ago.

There is also the "Transition help thread" here if that has anything you might deem useful:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=114852.0
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It kinda sucks how rare it is to find transition over 6ft in Australia yet almost every park in the USA has 9ft transition at least


For a long time it came down to insurance.

There were certain guidelines regarding heights of things, especially for some like Brisbane City Council, where they were not at all keen to relax the max 2m height restrictions for anything.

As to other places, some Councils weren't so restrictive, or at least some contractors made things bigger or deeper than was initially shown, just to have some bigger transition here in AU, but I think now things are getting a little more relaxed in that regard, as there have been some pretty big, deep bowls in recent years.

It is also down to how big the overall skateparks are too.  Most just don't have the funds to make such a big or deep bowl, whereas they will just put in smaller everything as it costs less.

I am thinking of a couple of new places in Perth / WA, a few bowls in NSW or VIC and definitely a couple here in QLD that have topped out the max height restrictions and people are stoked, but there are still not that many.

Bar Beach in Newcastle is another one that comes to mind, but that is not that deep compared to some places.

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Re: What are some good resources for progression in vert/bowl skating?
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2023, 11:42:16 AM »
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That place looks crazy big, but we don't have a whole lot of that sort of stuff here in AU.

To me, dudes like Omar Hassan, Peter Hewitt and as seen in that video Grant Taylor are always good to watch on big transition, with Omar doing a series of how to videos on some channel from a while ago.

There is also the "Transition help thread" here if that has anything you might deem useful:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=114852.0

Ah, this is a great thread. Iíll lurk this for a minute. Thatís pretty wild about AU not having accessible large transition to skate, I always think of the Bondi bowl when I think of Aussie skating. Thatís just one bowl though.

Itís atypical of the American south to have a park like Marsh Creek and I think thatís because this park is from the Tony Hawk skatepark foundation or at least it was when it was new. Itís a clone of transition focused Californian skateparks/Tonyís backyard flow and it definitely shows.
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Re: What are some good resources for progression in vert/bowl skating?
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2023, 05:54:49 PM »

Thatís pretty wild about AU not having accessible large transition to skate, I always think of the Bondi bowl as when I think of Aussie skating. Thatís just one bowl though.


The funny thing with Bondi is it is such a small tight space, which would fit several times over in even just one of those bigger bowls in parks like your local.

Still enough to take out quite a few people over the years though - tight, painted so slippery and very unforgiving if you mess up on it.

There are some way better way bigger and more well set out bowls around, but that one for location and publicity sure has had some moments over the years.


https://blog.skateboard.com.au/skateparks/australia/bondi-skate-park/


There is an additional park area beside the single bowl there too, which a lot of people forget about, but again, it is a tight squeeze compared to other parks and places.

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Re: What are some good resources for progression in vert/bowl skating?
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2023, 07:56:38 AM »
This Oski video has a lot of good stuff in it: https://youtu.be/msZcvY6wlzY

Working up to that level has got to be a challenge. It makes me wonder if you need to really build up the vert basics before you exit your 20s.

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Re: What are some good resources for progression in vert/bowl skating?
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2023, 12:35:49 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psIZ5XKeano

Try searching youtube videos from 10+ years ago. Such a simpler time

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Re: What are some good resources for progression in vert/bowl skating?
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2023, 05:58:13 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psIZ5XKeano

Try searching youtube videos from 10+ years ago. Such a simpler time

Yeah, this is definitely more approachable. Iíll keep that timeline in mind when browsing.

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Re: What are some good resources for progression in vert/bowl skating?
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2023, 08:11:33 AM »
Max Schaaf might provide some inspiration for you
https://youtu.be/74DNpHNpzKQ
https://youtu.be/g-FUjnAdS0Q
https://youtu.be/yGNlHX-AKlg
https://youtu.be/SvFR7C8Pitc

just watched 2 of those docs

are you telling me the only way to get better at vert/bowl skating is to rent a warehouse and build a vert ramp in it in

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Re: What are some good resources for progression in vert/bowl skating?
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2023, 12:36:29 PM »
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