DLX boards now made in China

[Sila]

I've got this real nice 8" medium/mellow Magenta board. The last few 8"s from BBS were Passports and they just didn't work for me. This Magenta feels totally different.

[fakiefs180]

When I compared the 8.25s I had, all were a little bit different. Darkroom and Magenta were almost the same, the Darkroom a bit steeper as the Magenta. The Polar 8.25 was a bit longer and the steepest of the three.
I prefer the Magenta 8.25 because it has the mellowest concave and the specs feel good to me.

[WideFeet]

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Checked out all the new DLX wood. Looks like BBS to me. No BBS sticker, but you can tell.

I wonder when the switch is coming, if it does come

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The pre book info was for delivery at the start of 2024, so people had said from USA and other places, including here in AU, so I don't imagine there would be much or any stock before then if they are still yet to get things up and running in the new woodshop.

Of course, it could already be in production and there could be some come in somewhere, anywhere, but the main thing is to check the "Made in Mexico" line on the red and white warning stickers that are on the existing BBS boards, which any board from China would not have.

Apart from that, I think that everything else, be it the mold shape, size, dimensions, etc would still be exactly the same as the other boards.  That is what they were going to do, not just a generic board from an existing woodshop with a DLX graphic on it, the way some other brands have done in their change over from BBS to China based woodshops.

Anyone else with more info, set me straight or whatever, but I am guessing a cool head and common sense will prevail without mass hysteria re woodshop origin theories spinning out of control.

DLX doesn’t do prebooks on hardgoods. Good call on the red and white warning sticker.

[Mbrimson88]

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Checked out all the new DLX wood. Looks like BBS to me. No BBS sticker, but you can tell.

I wonder when the switch is coming, if it does come

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The pre book info was for delivery at the start of 2024, so people had said from USA and other places, including here in AU, so I don't imagine there would be much or any stock before then if they are still yet to get things up and running in the new woodshop.

Of course, it could already be in production and there could be some come in somewhere, anywhere, but the main thing is to check the "Made in Mexico" line on the red and white warning stickers that are on the existing BBS boards, which any board from China would not have.

Apart from that, I think that everything else, be it the mold shape, size, dimensions, etc would still be exactly the same as the other boards.  That is what they were going to do, not just a generic board from an existing woodshop with a DLX graphic on it, the way some other brands have done in their change over from BBS to China based woodshops.

Anyone else with more info, set me straight or whatever, but I am guessing a cool head and common sense will prevail without mass hysteria re woodshop origin theories spinning out of control.

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DLX doesn’t do prebooks on hardgoods. Good call on the red and white warning sticker.

So the shop people might disagree with the "DLX doesn't do pre books on hardgoods" as they have done that for a while now, or at least here in AU they certainly do, as they did with all the China boards, which started this thread - see the first post - from someone in a shop in USA I believe.

More and more product seems like it is being pre booked so both the distro and the manufacturer know how much to order / make and whatever, but the best lines are all pre book only here, with whatever else ending up on the normal b2b for shop accounts to purchase as they like.

That way it is not the lucky first to jump online after the product is put up to get whatever it is and also so those bigger accounts don't just buy all of it as soon as it comes out, leaving everyone else without the good stuff.

This is just my own experience from working in a few shops over the years, but I do talk to quite a few other shop people from all over, USA, EU and other places, as much as I might annoy them, I do find it very interesting how everything works and like to hear the different experiences of someone here compared to USA or EU or where ever they are.

[Sedition]

^ Despite being in my 40s, I had a shop sponsor awhile ago (shop eventually lost lease, went out of bid’ness), that was heavily involved with DLX. IIRC, they often did DLX pre-order stuff.

[LebowskisRug]

I've been at my local when they've done the pre order at the start of a drop but they've told me after the initial drop they cannot select inventory when they re-up.

[WideFeet]

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Checked out all the new DLX wood. Looks like BBS to me. No BBS sticker, but you can tell.

I wonder when the switch is coming, if it does come

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The pre book info was for delivery at the start of 2024, so people had said from USA and other places, including here in AU, so I don't imagine there would be much or any stock before then if they are still yet to get things up and running in the new woodshop.

Of course, it could already be in production and there could be some come in somewhere, anywhere, but the main thing is to check the "Made in Mexico" line on the red and white warning stickers that are on the existing BBS boards, which any board from China would not have.

Apart from that, I think that everything else, be it the mold shape, size, dimensions, etc would still be exactly the same as the other boards.  That is what they were going to do, not just a generic board from an existing woodshop with a DLX graphic on it, the way some other brands have done in their change over from BBS to China based woodshops.

Anyone else with more info, set me straight or whatever, but I am guessing a cool head and common sense will prevail without mass hysteria re woodshop origin theories spinning out of control.

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DLX doesn’t do prebooks on hardgoods. Good call on the red and white warning sticker.

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So the shop people might disagree with the "DLX doesn't do pre books on hardgoods" as they have done that for a while now, or at least here in AU they certainly do, as they did with all the China boards, which started this thread - see the first post - from someone in a shop in USA I believe.

More and more product seems like it is being pre booked so both the distro and the manufacturer know how much to order / make and whatever, but the best lines are all pre book only here, with whatever else ending up on the normal b2b for shop accounts to purchase as they like.

That way it is not the lucky first to jump online after the product is put up to get whatever it is and also so those bigger accounts don't just buy all of it as soon as it comes out, leaving everyone else without the good stuff.

This is just my own experience from working in a few shops over the years, but I do talk to quite a few other shop people from all over, USA, EU and other places, as much as I might annoy them, I do find it very interesting how everything works and like to hear the different experiences of someone here compared to USA or EU or where ever they are.

My bad. I meant to say that I was in the US. Didn’t know they did prebooks in other countries. Would be interested to see what’s coming out in the future. How far out does DLX usually prebook?

[Mbrimson88]

My bad. I meant to say that I was in the US. Didn’t know they did prebooks in other countries. Would be interested to see what’s coming out in the future. How far out does DLX usually prebook?

Not a worry!



I think the latest offering is for mid 2024 that has just come out, some people already expressing excitement at new products on here and in other places in the last week or so, which would be Spring 2024 Drop 1.

The one before that with the pre book in question with China boards was for early 2024, so it seems like it can vary from six to eight months out sometimes.

Sure is a while to order and wait for product, but increasingly it helps distros and manufacturers to make enough of everything with orders in advance, rather than make a few hundred of everything, have some sell out in minutes and no one can get more, or have almost all of something else sit and end up on clearance sales because no one wanted it.


I don't know how long most other brands have pre book offers out, but some seem to keep it to about six months as well, just to ensure production meets demand.


* I meant to add too that leading up to / around Spring in USA seems to be the biggest drop of the year for some brands too, as much as there is often less product for the colder months, the warmer months get a big push, it seems, which stands to reason - more people getting out and skating, etc.

[WideFeet]

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My bad. I meant to say that I was in the US. Didn’t know they did prebooks in other countries. Would be interested to see what’s coming out in the future. How far out does DLX usually prebook?

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Not a worry!



I think the latest offering is for mid 2024 that has just come out, some people already expressing excitement at new products on here and in other places in the last week or so, which would be Spring 2024 Drop 1.

The one before that with the pre book in question with China boards was for early 2024, so it seems like it can vary from six to eight months out sometimes.

Sure is a while to order and wait for product, but increasingly it helps distros and manufacturers to make enough of everything with orders in advance, rather than make a few hundred of everything, have some sell out in minutes and no one can get more, or have almost all of something else sit and end up on clearance sales because no one wanted it.


I don't know how long most other brands have pre book offers out, but some seem to keep it to about six months as well, just to ensure production meets demand.


* I meant to add too that leading up to / around Spring in USA seems to be the biggest drop of the year for some brands too, as much as there is often less product for the colder months, the warmer months get a big push, it seems, which stands to reason - more people getting out and skating, etc.

Most all brands are about 3-6 months in advance for prebooks as well.

I always like to nerd out and see what’s coming in the future, but lately it’s starting to lose its excitement. Not knowing and getting surprised is the new move. When that’s in the cards at least. Prebooking shoes and apparel is a must, so no surprises there, unless there’s a special drop like those new NB# 480’s

[Frank and Fred]

Are these the Made in China Dlx boards now hitting the shops?

https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/grimple-stix-85-pp-skateboard-deck

[j....soy.....]

I doubt it….my impression was that they were manufacturing a high quality board in China this looks like a price point board….they’ve made these for awhile no?

[manysnakes]

Yeah, think it's technically correct that this is a DLX board which is made in China, but not the type of boards we are discussing in this thread.

[Frank and Fred]

Got it. Thanks.

[GBLange]

Are these the Made in China Dlx boards now hitting the shops?

https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/grimple-stix-85-pp-skateboard-deck

It could be..

[Mbrimson88]

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Are these the Made in China Dlx boards now hitting the shops?

https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/grimple-stix-85-pp-skateboard-deck

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It could be..

The newer "Made in China" DLX boards are still yet to drop anywhere, as far as I know - thinking first physical drop in 2024 when they all arrive, but at least that is from the info I have seen and heard.  Everything else is still 100% BBS from Mexico up until that point.

The pricepoint decks like that one were always still BBS, made in Mexico with all the rest, only they used cheaper ply laminates for those ones, that were rejects from the pro board laminates, or something like that.

The only DLX boards that are made in China are the budget completes and have been for a while now, which do have different concaves to BBS boards and are as people would expect from a cheaper complete out of China, in terms of the product.  They still hold up fine for beginners or people not going too hard, but break fairly easily under normal conditions when put to the test.  Seen a few of those come back "for warranty" when I worked at a big shop and they were denied every time - incorrect landing and the board broke / get a pro board and learn to land correctly, etc.


Sorry if I keep on about this, but I feel like a lot of people are now crying wolf, which is understandable, but the list of boards in the 2024 drop has which ones are BBS and which ones are China made, no current boards or graphics.

[Frank and Fred]

I have a link to the Spring 2024 Drop 1 catalog and  no mention where each deck is pressed. Just a regular DLX catalog with graphics and dimensions. Cool shit coming, either way.

[Mbrimson88]

I have a link to the Spring 2024 Drop 1 catalog and  no mention where each deck is pressed. Just a regular DLX catalog with graphics and dimensions. Cool shit coming, either way.

There is the PDF catalog, then there is the shop order excel sheet, which had all that info on it.

Guessing a lot of people would have seen a PDF catalog here and there, but only the shop people see the Excel sheet, which doesn't get shared around.


As you said, either way, it will be good.

I am still very interested to see and compare boards from different places.

You guys might get them sooner there, even this year, or almost now, as it takes a while for to get any stock here, compared to USA or other places.


Example, that Pigeon Vision huffer is USA, as is the Hewitt board, but the other Pigeon Vision range of pro boards for Raney, Kanfoush, BA, etc are said to be China, so check them when they make it to shops.

New Huffer out. https://dlxskateshop.com/collections/skate-goods/products/antihero-john-cardiel-pigeon-vision-deck

[Frank and Fred]

Phew. Thanks for the LD. I'm sure the Chinese made boards will be of good quality but I still prefer something manufactured a little closer to home... I have the new Huffer on order from the local...

[Mbrimson88]

Antihero out with a new 8.5" with 14" wheelbase

https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/taylor-pigeon-vision-85-skateboard-deck

If this info is correct, these boards are the ones made in China, so if anyone can keep an eye out for any of the other pigeon vision boards (except the Huffer shape and the Hewitt decks) and check top stickers or any of the markings, etc on them.

The whole list of this current drop is not one to share, but more of them are said to be the made in China boards than the usual made in Mexico BBS DLX boards.


It would be interesting if people have seen any in shops or could take pics of stickers (if any) or other info.


* Just to say it again, DLX always does top quality stuff, so I have no doubt that these are going to be well made and hold up the same as any other DLX deck, but I am super keen to see pics or hear more about them, seeing as they will be a fair way off coming here at least, the AU drop scheduled for early next year - Feb 2024 from memory.

[Mbrimson88]

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Just to add to that, it is entirely possible that USA still gets all BBS / Mexico boards cause they are looking very expensive on Tactics and I did see one sticker on top that was still the usual BBS / Mexico warning label.

The boards from China were considerably cheaper than the newer drops from Mexico, but that is not so much the giveaway as to where a board was made, compared to a sticker with a "Made in... " on it, so I should just wait and see what people in USA say more than anything.

Board info below:



https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/doobie-pro-875-wheel-wells-skateboard-deck/yellow


ANTI-HERO DOOBIE PRO 8.75 WHEEL WELLS SKATEBOARD DECK
$79.95

[Boog]

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Just to add to that, it is entirely possible that USA still gets all BBS / Mexico boards cause they are looking very expensive on Tactics and I did see one sticker on top that was still the usual BBS / Mexico warning label.

The boards from China were considerably cheaper than the newer drops from Mexico, but that is not so much the giveaway as to where a board was made, compared to a sticker with a "Made in... " on it, so I should just wait and see what people in USA say more than anything.

Board info below:



https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/doobie-pro-875-wheel-wells-skateboard-deck/yellow


ANTI-HERO DOOBIE PRO 8.75 WHEEL WELLS SKATEBOARD DECK
$79.95

Yeah that same Grant Taylor board on skate warehouse's site has the made in Mexico sticker on it. Looks like it's just a new shape.

[j....soy.....]

Another point re: China…my understanding is it’s their factory versus I assume the price point ones are not. 

[breezy_again]

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Antihero out with a new 8.5" with 14" wheelbase

https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/taylor-pigeon-vision-85-skateboard-deck

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If this info is correct, these boards are the ones made in China, so if anyone can keep an eye out for any of the other pigeon vision boards (except the Huffer shape and the Hewitt decks) and check top stickers or any of the markings, etc on them.

The whole list of this current drop is not one to share, but more of them are said to be the made in China boards than the usual made in Mexico BBS DLX boards.


It would be interesting if people have seen any in shops or could take pics of stickers (if any) or other info.


* Just to say it again, DLX always does top quality stuff, so I have no doubt that these are going to be well made and hold up the same as any other DLX deck, but I am super keen to see pics or hear more about them, seeing as they will be a fair way off coming here at least, the AU drop scheduled for early next year - Feb 2024 from memory.

We have about 10 of these where I work and they all have the made in Mexico stickers with the Roman numeral stamps. We checked a few other decks we got at that same time and they are the same.

[Sativa Lung]

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Antihero out with a new 8.5" with 14" wheelbase

https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/taylor-pigeon-vision-85-skateboard-deck

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If this info is correct, these boards are the ones made in China, so if anyone can keep an eye out for any of the other pigeon vision boards (except the Huffer shape and the Hewitt decks) and check top stickers or any of the markings, etc on them.

The whole list of this current drop is not one to share, but more of them are said to be the made in China boards than the usual made in Mexico BBS DLX boards.


It would be interesting if people have seen any in shops or could take pics of stickers (if any) or other info.


* Just to say it again, DLX always does top quality stuff, so I have no doubt that these are going to be well made and hold up the same as any other DLX deck, but I am super keen to see pics or hear more about them, seeing as they will be a fair way off coming here at least, the AU drop scheduled for early next year - Feb 2024 from memory.

I think that's just one of the new true fit shapes. Pretty sure the ten curbmandments I was just looking at in 8.5 is 31.7 and 14wb and that's been out long enough it's sold out most places. Stamps and stain both match BBS.

[Sativa Lung]

Another point re: China…my understanding is it’s their factory versus I assume the price point ones are not.

So my best guess on this "own factory" stuff is not that they're investing in actually building a factory there. That would be pretty risky with the state of their economy and how they've been treating foreign firms, especially if you're a company that isn't big enough to take a loss like that on the chin should China decide to pull a Russia. It's a whole different political and financial climate to when Rod set up DSM. I have to assume they're doing what Girl did with Huahong and basically leasing part of one of the existing woodshops, so they'll have their own presses but everything else will use the same materiel and logistic chains. I wouldn't be surprised if it's whoever does their PPs (hehehe), I'd actually kinda expect them to stick with someone they're comfortable working with.

[pizzafliptofakie]

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Antihero out with a new 8.5" with 14" wheelbase

https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/taylor-pigeon-vision-85-skateboard-deck

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If this info is correct, these boards are the ones made in China, so if anyone can keep an eye out for any of the other pigeon vision boards (except the Huffer shape and the Hewitt decks) and check top stickers or any of the markings, etc on them.

The whole list of this current drop is not one to share, but more of them are said to be the made in China boards than the usual made in Mexico BBS DLX boards.


It would be interesting if people have seen any in shops or could take pics of stickers (if any) or other info.


* Just to say it again, DLX always does top quality stuff, so I have no doubt that these are going to be well made and hold up the same as any other DLX deck, but I am super keen to see pics or hear more about them, seeing as they will be a fair way off coming here at least, the AU drop scheduled for early next year - Feb 2024 from memory.

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I think that's just one of the new true fit shapes. Pretty sure the ten curbmandments I was just looking at in 8.5 is 31.7 and 14wb and that's been out long enough it's sold out most places. Stamps and stain both match BBS.

Unless they're doing another one, the 8.5 TrueFit has a 13.75 wb.

Incidentally, I just got an 8.5 Real board with 14.1. Not sure I've ever seen that measurement but excited to try.

[Mbrimson88]

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Antihero out with a new 8.5" with 14" wheelbase

https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/taylor-pigeon-vision-85-skateboard-deck

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If this info is correct, these boards are the ones made in China, so if anyone can keep an eye out for any of the other pigeon vision boards (except the Huffer shape and the Hewitt decks) and check top stickers or any of the markings, etc on them.

The whole list of this current drop is not one to share, but more of them are said to be the made in China boards than the usual made in Mexico BBS DLX boards.


It would be interesting if people have seen any in shops or could take pics of stickers (if any) or other info.


* Just to say it again, DLX always does top quality stuff, so I have no doubt that these are going to be well made and hold up the same as any other DLX deck, but I am super keen to see pics or hear more about them, seeing as they will be a fair way off coming here at least, the AU drop scheduled for early next year - Feb 2024 from memory.

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We have about 10 of these where I work and they all have the made in Mexico stickers with the Roman numeral stamps. We checked a few other decks we got at that same time and they are the same.

Thanks!


That was the sort of info I was after, as all the pigon vision boards were the drop that were from China, for the AU delivery.

It was not so much the specific board from the link above, the shape or anything else, more just that series, so regardless of it being a standard shape or not, almost all the new boards for us here in AU are going to be from China, which arrive Feb 2024.  Things are always a few months behind in stock getting here, unless it is fast tracked by air (which then costs a ton more), otherwise it goes in a shipping container by sea and gets here after it has travelled half way round the world.

It would make sense that USA gets wood from Mexico and other countries / continents like AU, Asia or Europe get wood from China, but only DLX knows exactly what is going on there, so not a worry either way to me.

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Antihero out with a new 8.5" with 14" wheelbase

https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/taylor-pigeon-vision-85-skateboard-deck

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If this info is correct, these boards are the ones made in China, so if anyone can keep an eye out for any of the other pigeon vision boards (except the Huffer shape and the Hewitt decks) and check top stickers or any of the markings, etc on them.

The whole list of this current drop is not one to share, but more of them are said to be the made in China boards than the usual made in Mexico BBS DLX boards.


It would be interesting if people have seen any in shops or could take pics of stickers (if any) or other info.


* Just to say it again, DLX always does top quality stuff, so I have no doubt that these are going to be well made and hold up the same as any other DLX deck, but I am super keen to see pics or hear more about them, seeing as they will be a fair way off coming here at least, the AU drop scheduled for early next year - Feb 2024 from memory.

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I think that's just one of the new true fit shapes. Pretty sure the ten curbmandments I was just looking at in 8.5 is 31.7 and 14wb and that's been out long enough it's sold out most places. Stamps and stain both match BBS.

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Unless they're doing another one, the 8.5 TrueFit has a 13.75 wb.

Incidentally, I just got an 8.5 Real board with 14.1. Not sure I've ever seen that measurement but excited to try.

That's a different one, there's 31.75 and 31.3. The 8.5 x 31.7 14wb one is more in line with the dims on the other true fits and like I said it's been out a while. This was the first deck I remember seeing on it

https://www.skatestore.com/skateboarding/888560294714--anti-hero-ten-curbmandments-skateboard-deck-true-fit-mold-8-5.html

[pizzafliptofakie]

Oh word. Was not aware!


Those dimensions seem much more reasonable too. The 13.75 one was so crammed.

[LebowskisRug]

The blue eagle shape is 31.75 on the dot and a 14.12wb