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All of the Green Day albums through Nimrod are incredible. Enough time has passed from the “we’ll never sell out” claim.
Insomniac is a definite sleeper (haha), it obviously paled in comparison to Dookie and the impact it had but there are some great tracks on that second major label release. I'm also in the small percentage of people that loved Warning.
Insomniac is great; Dookie is good as a whole album, more focused and consistent, but the highlights on Insomniac are way better, imo. Brain Stew/(Jaded) is an awesome single, despite being the same riff for the whole song. Brat, 86, Geek Stink Breath, all kick ass. Panic Song is one where the intro could keep going on and on and I would still love it.
Is Deftones just sexy Tool? I recently started listening to them never really picking them up before and I'm kinda torn if I like them or not. They have some good tracks for sure (Passenger, Rocket Skates, Diamond Eyes, etc.) but the overall sound doesn't really catch me for some reason.
@Necktie.w.t.d. i was a huge fan of deftones when they first came out. they were like guns and roses of rap metal, like the one band in a shitty genre that doesn't suck. these days i prefer tool to deftones. the rap metal vibes throw off deftones better tracks for me from being able to revist them now while i feel that tool never really leaned into any gimicks and so their songs are more timeless for me. but i've accepted that tool is for me what rush was for the older stoners than me growing up. they all get and love it but you probably had to be there. on the flip side my daughter really likes deftones so it's cool to share that with her. fuck it gonna blast white pony today 🤙
for deftones, this track is pretty cool. i'm a huge cure fan and this cover was fantastic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BfRTNrQma4
I've come to the realization that I'm not into their mellower songs, and I only can fuck with the lusty-whisper singing for so long. Chino's screams are something else for sure, and when the track hits, IT HITS.
Tool is definitely more diverse and... polished? (for lack of a better term) I personally kinda blew them out for myself. I still like their sound, but I'm giving myself some time away to come back and re-appreciate their ingenuity.
Aside/Kinda cringe - I was on the drums in a "screamo" band in high school, and the bandmates intro'd me to 2000's/2010's metalcore (not my favorite genre to listen to, but had a fucking blast playing BFMV, BMTH, Warped Tour type shit, etc....). Almost all those bands reference Deftones as an influence, so it's kinda funny to me how I missed them when I was in that scene
it's funny, i feel there's a lot of bands that get ruined by the people that were influenced by them. a good example for me is alice in chains, before their radio hits i thought they were cool to me and my friends and then years later you have one of the worst genres ever, modern rock, full of music with band imitating them. same with rage and rap metal for me.
for tool, they are one of the few bands where i listen to the newer stuff more than the early stuff. they are an entirely different band these days and i noticed a lot of core fans don't like their new stuff but its mostly what i listen too now. they've also become a band that is really all about the drummer. maynard is in the back in the dark now and danny is kind of front and center. this clip kind of sums up what i dig about them now. it's definitely just a band that i have a long history with and enjoy regardless of the fact that for 20 years every cornball in town had a tool sticker on their truck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FssULNGSZIA
Danny Carey is insane on the kit, trying to learn any Tool song on drums is a literal boss battle. Odd-time sigs, switching time sigs, hella melodic rhythms, polyrhythms, like.. good luck. I think of The Grudge or Triad and just how nutty his beats are, super tight and flowy but holding it down all day. Dude's wild.
Tool has this thing where each member gets their due - Schism, Disposition and 46 & Two for that bass lead, Vicarious, Aenima, and Prison Sex for guitar riffage, and the vocals on The Pot and Stinkfist are killer.
I gotta revisit their latest album, seemed kinda wander-y when I was first listening through it, but its worth another shot.