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Re: Trump VS. Biden (again)
« Reply #30 on: March 08, 2024, 02:15:02 PM »
I never try to be overconfident, but based off  Trumps record ever 2 years, would find it surprising for that to change all of a sudden

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Re: Trump VS. Biden (again)
« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2024, 04:22:41 PM »
I hope I am wrong,  but I feel Trump won his first term due to underestimating the lack of enthusiasm/likeability  for Clinton.   History will repeat itself.    Trump over Biden for the same reasons.    Regardless we are a nation in decline if these two are the best candidates we can come up with.   

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Re: Trump VS. Biden (again)
« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2024, 07:33:22 PM »
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Re: Trump VS. Biden (again)
« Reply #33 on: March 09, 2024, 01:30:32 AM »
I hope I am wrong,  but I feel Trump won his first term due to underestimating the lack of enthusiasm/likeability  for Clinton.   History will repeat itself.    Trump over Biden for the same reasons.    Regardless we are a nation in decline if these two are the best candidates we can come up with.   

From a non US perspective it's like a comedy show. First Trump gets elected because people hate Hillary so much, then Biden cause people hate trump so much, and now looks like people are ready to elect trump again as they've realized Biden is five years overdue from chilling in a nursing home

Pretty interesting to see if things will get back to somewhat normal again four years from now

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Re: Trump VS. Biden (again)
« Reply #34 on: March 09, 2024, 09:48:30 AM »
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I hope I am wrong,  but I feel Trump won his first term due to underestimating the lack of enthusiasm/likeability  for Clinton.   History will repeat itself.    Trump over Biden for the same reasons.    Regardless we are a nation in decline if these two are the best candidates we can come up with.   
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From a non US perspective it's like a comedy show. First Trump gets elected because people hate Hillary so much, then Biden cause people hate trump so much, and now looks like people are ready to elect trump again as they've realized Biden is five years overdue from chilling in a nursing home

Pretty interesting to see if things will get back to somewhat normal again four years from now


Are y’all seeing the video footage of trump speeches where he is clearly unable to speak properly? Dude is regularly confusing names, stumbling over words/sentences, and unable to make appropriate connections of people, places, and things.

Im curious because i regularly see comments about Biden’s age and mental clarity, but very, very little concerning Trump and his cognitive function.

I dont disagree that they are both too far gone, yet the focus on the age of Biden alone seems to me like a manufactured issue that is working quite well in distracting voters and bystanders such as folks outside the states from Trump in general
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Re: Trump VS. Biden (again)
« Reply #35 on: March 09, 2024, 10:58:27 AM »
Trump is likely going senile from the STDs you’d expect from a sex predator and raw dog prostitute purveyor.

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Re: Trump VS. Biden (again)
« Reply #36 on: March 09, 2024, 11:08:54 AM »
Neither of these fools are cognitive. One can't talk and the other thinks they're running against Obama.
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Re: Trump VS. Biden (again)
« Reply #37 on: March 09, 2024, 11:21:24 AM »
imagine obama or joe having a playdate with a hungarian despot at their own home..they'd all want him hung from the highest tree, but somehow this is all normal..

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Re: Trump VS. Biden (again)
« Reply #38 on: March 09, 2024, 11:32:48 AM »
Most of the time the “cognitive decline” I see in Biden is from someone who has worked hard in their life to overcome a stutter

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Re: Trump VS. Biden (again)
« Reply #39 on: March 09, 2024, 11:58:16 AM »
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I hope I am wrong,  but I feel Trump won his first term due to underestimating the lack of enthusiasm/likeability  for Clinton.   History will repeat itself.    Trump over Biden for the same reasons.    Regardless we are a nation in decline if these two are the best candidates we can come up with.   
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From a non US perspective it's like a comedy show. First Trump gets elected because people hate Hillary so much, then Biden cause people hate trump so much, and now looks like people are ready to elect trump again as they've realized Biden is five years overdue from chilling in a nursing home

Pretty interesting to see if things will get back to somewhat normal again four years from now
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Are y’all seeing the video footage of trump speeches where he is clearly unable to speak properly? Dude is regularly confusing names, stumbling over words/sentences, and unable to make appropriate connections of people, places, and things.

Im curious because i regularly see comments about Biden’s age and mental clarity, but very, very little concerning Trump and his cognitive function.

I dont disagree that they are both too far gone, yet the focus on the age of Biden alone seems to me like a manufactured issue that is working quite well in distracting voters and bystanders such as folks outside the states from Trump in general
Oh yeah trump seems to be getting senile too, so the election might become about who's the least senile candidate. Which would be hilarious if it wasn't real life

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Re: Trump VS. Biden (again)
« Reply #40 on: March 09, 2024, 12:10:29 PM »
Trump is going to win, unfortunately. And both options here are shit.

Im more scared of the Trump acolytes and state/county/city level extremist candidates who will be emboldened by him than I am of Trump himself.

I live in a battleground state and it’s absolutely insane some of the mouth breathers the Reps are fielding. I can understand (even if I disagree with it) Mitt Romney type educated, accomplished/successful conservatives, the christofascist swamp nazis on the ballot today are something fucking else.



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Re: Trump VS. Biden (again)
« Reply #41 on: March 09, 2024, 01:51:04 PM »
Most of the time the “cognitive decline” I see in Biden is from someone who has worked hard in their life to overcome a stutter

This seems to me to be a fairly accurate assessment. Dudes got natural cognitive decline, he is old. Period, but youre spot on about the stutter and it being played/preyed upon.
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Re: Trump VS. Biden (again)
« Reply #42 on: March 09, 2024, 04:27:43 PM »
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Re: Trump VS. Biden (again)
« Reply #43 on: March 09, 2024, 04:51:30 PM »
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Re: Trump VS. Biden (again)
« Reply #44 on: March 09, 2024, 05:18:06 PM »
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Most of the time the “cognitive decline” I see in Biden is from someone who has worked hard in their life to overcome a stutter
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This seems to me to be a fairly accurate assessment. Dudes got natural cognitive decline, he is old. Period, but youre spot on about the stutter and it being played/preyed upon.


The fucking cognitive decline I hit when I turned 35 was notable.   Not sure if my (diagnosed) ADHD was kicking it, but I found it quantifiably harder to recall the names of thing.   

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Re: Trump VS. Biden (again)
« Reply #45 on: March 09, 2024, 06:06:44 PM »
I've watched all the Biden dementia compilations on Youtube and they're all a joke.  If he actually has dementia, I'd like to know.  Get back to me when Biden thinks he's in the 80's, or he can't remember Kamala's name.  Flubbing a few words while public speaking(to millions no less) or falling off a bike with cages is completely normal.  If they said it was early dementia or something, I'd say that's plausible, but they've been saying that for almost 10 years now.  It's the same shit they always pull, just throw a bunch of outlandish claims repeatedly knowing most people's political knowledge is facebook memes.

I'm not trying to start an argument on this, I just would actually like to know the answer.  I keep seeing shit about how the Dems had 50 years to codify Roe, but REFUSED to.  Was there actually a time in the last 50 years where we definitively had enough votes to get past the filibuster?  Like all this garbage social media political shit makes it sound like it'd be super easy to pass, but I remember support for abortion rights when I was a kid being pretty abysmal.

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Re: Trump VS. Biden (again)
« Reply #46 on: March 10, 2024, 08:51:14 AM »
probably just going to vote trump because i voted for biden in 2020. just like to stir shit up for no reason. nothing matters either way, this country is doomed


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Re: Trump VS. Biden (again)
« Reply #47 on: March 10, 2024, 09:30:35 AM »
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probably just going to vote trump because i voted for biden in 2020. just like to stir shit up for no reason. nothing matters either way, this country is doomed
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It’s even worse.

In a battleground state, that vote means a lot more.

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Re: Trump VS. Biden (again)
« Reply #48 on: March 10, 2024, 09:41:40 AM »
I've watched all the Biden dementia compilations on Youtube and they're all a joke.  If he actually has dementia, I'd like to know.  Get back to me when Biden thinks he's in the 80's, or he can't remember Kamala's name.  Flubbing a few words while public speaking(to millions no less) or falling off a bike with cages is completely normal.  If they said it was early dementia or something, I'd say that's plausible, but they've been saying that for almost 10 years now.  It's the same shit they always pull, just throw a bunch of outlandish claims repeatedly knowing most people's political knowledge is facebook memes.

I'm not trying to start an argument on this, I just would actually like to know the answer.  I keep seeing shit about how the Dems had 50 years to codify Roe, but REFUSED to.  Was there actually a time in the last 50 years where we definitively had enough votes to get past the filibuster?  Like all this garbage social media political shit makes it sound like it'd be super easy to pass, but I remember support for abortion rights when I was a kid being pretty abysmal.
I'm not a neuropsychologist, but I am a Clinical Psychologist at the VA and used to do full-time cognitive assessments for geriatric patients. Dementia isn't dichotomous, but it's on a spectrum like any other neurocognitive disorder and it's pretty obvious both candidates have age-related declines.

Our executive functioning (frontal lobe) typically peaks around late 20's and everyone starts to show some declines once they hit late 50's or 60's, which is why some professions require retirement at a certain age (e.g. FAA requires retirement at age 65yo). Any gero psychologist would tell you both Biden and Trump have some level of neurocognitive impairment and should not be the leader of the free world. Even for people with very obvious dementia (e.g. Mitch McConnell, Dianne Feinstein, etc) there are no fail-safes in US politics.

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Re: Trump VS. Biden (again)
« Reply #49 on: March 10, 2024, 01:54:25 PM »
Just unite them into one person: Triden or Bidump

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Re: Trump VS. Biden (again)
« Reply #50 on: March 10, 2024, 02:18:42 PM »
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probably just going to vote trump because i voted for biden in 2020. just like to stir shit up for no reason. nothing matters either way, this country is doomed
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It’s even worse.

In a battleground state, that vote means a lot more.

I don’t understand why someone like this would bother voting at all.

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Re: Trump VS. Biden (again)
« Reply #51 on: March 10, 2024, 04:59:23 PM »
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I've watched all the Biden dementia compilations on Youtube and they're all a joke.  If he actually has dementia, I'd like to know.  Get back to me when Biden thinks he's in the 80's, or he can't remember Kamala's name.  Flubbing a few words while public speaking(to millions no less) or falling off a bike with cages is completely normal.  If they said it was early dementia or something, I'd say that's plausible, but they've been saying that for almost 10 years now.  It's the same shit they always pull, just throw a bunch of outlandish claims repeatedly knowing most people's political knowledge is facebook memes.

I'm not trying to start an argument on this, I just would actually like to know the answer.  I keep seeing shit about how the Dems had 50 years to codify Roe, but REFUSED to.  Was there actually a time in the last 50 years where we definitively had enough votes to get past the filibuster?  Like all this garbage social media political shit makes it sound like it'd be super easy to pass, but I remember support for abortion rights when I was a kid being pretty abysmal.
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I'm not a neuropsychologist, but I am a Clinical Psychologist at the VA and used to do full-time cognitive assessments for geriatric patients. Dementia isn't dichotomous, but it's on a spectrum like any other neurocognitive disorder and it's pretty obvious both candidates have age-related declines.

Our executive functioning (frontal lobe) typically peaks around late 20's and everyone starts to show some declines once they hit late 50's or 60's, which is why some professions require retirement at a certain age (e.g. FAA requires retirement at age 65yo). Any gero psychologist would tell you both Biden and Trump have some level of neurocognitive impairment and should not be the leader of the free world. Even for people with very obvious dementia (e.g. Mitch McConnell, Dianne Feinstein, etc) there are no fail-safes in US politics.

Thank you for this reply, this is the kind of opinion I like getting.  I wouldn't disagree with what you said either.  Without getting too deep into this, it just irritates the shit out of me that people pass over Trumps mental decline just because he's belligerent and antagonizes people.

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Re: Trump VS. Biden (again)
« Reply #52 on: March 10, 2024, 05:10:55 PM »
Fuck trump
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Re: Trump VS. Biden (again)
« Reply #53 on: March 10, 2024, 06:38:54 PM »
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I've watched all the Biden dementia compilations on Youtube and they're all a joke.  If he actually has dementia, I'd like to know.  Get back to me when Biden thinks he's in the 80's, or he can't remember Kamala's name.  Flubbing a few words while public speaking(to millions no less) or falling off a bike with cages is completely normal.  If they said it was early dementia or something, I'd say that's plausible, but they've been saying that for almost 10 years now.  It's the same shit they always pull, just throw a bunch of outlandish claims repeatedly knowing most people's political knowledge is facebook memes.

I'm not trying to start an argument on this, I just would actually like to know the answer.  I keep seeing shit about how the Dems had 50 years to codify Roe, but REFUSED to.  Was there actually a time in the last 50 years where we definitively had enough votes to get past the filibuster?  Like all this garbage social media political shit makes it sound like it'd be super easy to pass, but I remember support for abortion rights when I was a kid being pretty abysmal.
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I'm not a neuropsychologist, but I am a Clinical Psychologist at the VA and used to do full-time cognitive assessments for geriatric patients. Dementia isn't dichotomous, but it's on a spectrum like any other neurocognitive disorder and it's pretty obvious both candidates have age-related declines.

Our executive functioning (frontal lobe) typically peaks around late 20's and everyone starts to show some declines once they hit late 50's or 60's, which is why some professions require retirement at a certain age (e.g. FAA requires retirement at age 65yo). Any gero psychologist would tell you both Biden and Trump have some level of neurocognitive impairment and should not be the leader of the free world. Even for people with very obvious dementia (e.g. Mitch McConnell, Dianne Feinstein, etc) there are no fail-safes in US politics.

I echo the appreciation that others have posted regarding your professional insight.

I am a speech-language pathologist, and I have my own professional opinions regarding both candidates. Each of them certainly has age-related cognitive decline. Having experience working with children and adults with dysfluent speech (stuttering), I feel my concerns are almost identical.

Overall, linguistic cohesion and sequencing of their messages seem lacking. Most worrying to me are instances when they are not self-monitoring and repairing their messages (e.g., using the wrong president's name, the name of an incorrect country, not adequately answering the question, etc.).

I was pleasantly surprised at how Biden performed during the State of the Union, overall. 

Considering the population size of the U.S., it is ridiculous that these are the two front runners. In my mind, the two options from the major parties signal how deficient the two-party system is.   
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Re: Trump VS. Biden (again)
« Reply #54 on: March 11, 2024, 07:56:26 AM »
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I've watched all the Biden dementia compilations on Youtube and they're all a joke.  If he actually has dementia, I'd like to know.  Get back to me when Biden thinks he's in the 80's, or he can't remember Kamala's name.  Flubbing a few words while public speaking(to millions no less) or falling off a bike with cages is completely normal.  If they said it was early dementia or something, I'd say that's plausible, but they've been saying that for almost 10 years now.  It's the same shit they always pull, just throw a bunch of outlandish claims repeatedly knowing most people's political knowledge is facebook memes.

I'm not trying to start an argument on this, I just would actually like to know the answer.  I keep seeing shit about how the Dems had 50 years to codify Roe, but REFUSED to.  Was there actually a time in the last 50 years where we definitively had enough votes to get past the filibuster?  Like all this garbage social media political shit makes it sound like it'd be super easy to pass, but I remember support for abortion rights when I was a kid being pretty abysmal.
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I'm not a neuropsychologist, but I am a Clinical Psychologist at the VA and used to do full-time cognitive assessments for geriatric patients. Dementia isn't dichotomous, but it's on a spectrum like any other neurocognitive disorder and it's pretty obvious both candidates have age-related declines.

Our executive functioning (frontal lobe) typically peaks around late 20's and everyone starts to show some declines once they hit late 50's or 60's, which is why some professions require retirement at a certain age (e.g. FAA requires retirement at age 65yo). Any gero psychologist would tell you both Biden and Trump have some level of neurocognitive impairment and should not be the leader of the free world. Even for people with very obvious dementia (e.g. Mitch McConnell, Dianne Feinstein, etc) there are no fail-safes in US politics.
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I echo the appreciation that others have posted regarding your professional insight.

I am a speech-language pathologist, and I have my own professional opinions regarding both candidates. Each of them certainly has age-related cognitive decline. Having experience working with children and adults with dysfluent speech (stuttering), I feel my concerns are almost identical.

Overall, linguistic cohesion and sequencing of their messages seem lacking. Most worrying to me are instances when they are not self-monitoring and repairing their messages (e.g., using the wrong president's name, the name of an incorrect country, not adequately answering the question, etc.).

I was pleasantly surprised at how Biden performed during the State of the Union, overall. 

Considering the population size of the U.S., it is ridiculous that these are the two front runners. In my mind, the two options from the major parties signal how deficient the two-party system is.   


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Re: Trump VS. Biden (again)
« Reply #55 on: March 11, 2024, 08:58:36 AM »
i think Trump could do good for the economy, why we paying $80 for a decks now?

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Re: Trump VS. Biden (again)
« Reply #56 on: March 11, 2024, 09:15:34 AM »
i think Trump could do good for the economy, why we paying $80 for a decks now?
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« Reply #57 on: March 11, 2024, 09:19:40 AM »
i think Trump could do good for the economy, why we paying $80 for a decks now?

When has a republican ever done a good job with the economy?    One step forward two steps back and often a democratic president (like Carter with Nixon, Obama and bush, Biden trump) has to eat a shit sandwich that wasn’t their making

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Re: Trump VS. Biden (again)
« Reply #58 on: March 11, 2024, 09:27:02 AM »
I dont like either one of these candidates but its what were stuck with again...seemed like i could afford a lot more before Biden was in office. I didnt vote for Trump the first time around but things seemed pretty fucked right now economically.

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Re: Trump VS. Biden (again)
« Reply #59 on: March 11, 2024, 09:41:06 AM »
Keep in mind, interest rates were historically low after Wall Street destroyed the economy in 2008. Interest rates went negative during Covid. Not much to do with who was in office. I would also say my opinion on why grocery prices are so high is because food companies want to maintain their margins. Cost goes up, prices go up more, margins stay the same and profits go up.

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