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Balancing skating with working out?
« on: August 03, 2024, 02:47:16 PM »
I've recently come to realize that skating alone is not enough exercise for me and I need to incorporate other things such as running and weight-lifting in my routine to be as physically fit and healthy as I possibly can be. But sometimes I have a hard time balancing these things. Should I skate before or after lifting weights/running? Should I skate on leg day? How do I manage skating while my legs are sore from leg day? If anyone has any tips, please let me know.

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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2024, 02:52:17 PM »
I've recently come to realize that skating alone is not enough exercise for me and I need to incorporate other things such as running and weight-lifting in my routine to be as physically fit and healthy as I possibly can be. But sometimes I have a hard time balancing these things. Should I skate before or after lifting weights/running? Should I skate on leg day? How do I manage skating while my legs are sore from leg day? If anyone has any tips, please let me know.

When I cared more and didn’t have a fucked knee I would do cardio in the morning then skate after and lift at night. Don’t skate on leg day cause recovery is important. Just make sure to stretch a lot and don’t skate if you’re already sore.
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2024, 02:55:23 PM »
I think the Fitness and Gym Thread (linked) is the right place for this - check that thread out to get some information.

As far as starting a gym routine with skate performance in mind, most general strength and conditioning routines will improve your fitness and athleticism. This can help your skating if you are also remaining consistent with your skateboarding “practice”. It can be tricky to balance the two, but it is helpful if you already have experience working out. Understanding your limits (in terms of how much working out you can tolerate) and what to adjust in your workout routine to keep skating a priority are the two most important factors in my experience.

If you haven’t worked out before, I would recommend looking into a trainer or online coach who can assist you with exercise technique, programming, and lifestyle adjustments to maximize your fitness gains.

For what it’s worth, I mainly do kettlebell and bodyweight exercises in a circuit fashion. This helps train strength and “cardio” (conditioning) in one workout. These qualities help me keep my skate endurance and tolerate the wear and tear that comes with bailing and slams.

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Re: Balancing skating with working out?
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2024, 02:57:30 PM »
Skate with leg weights. Maybe a weighted vest, too. Imagine the feeling when you take them off.

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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2024, 03:04:56 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2024, 04:41:31 PM »
I’m keen to figure out a workout routine to help me strengthen up to be able to skate decently again when I go 6 months without skating because of life.

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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2024, 04:54:53 PM »
I think weck has a patreon for this.
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Re: Balancing skating with working out?
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2024, 05:41:00 PM »
Prioritize recovery whatever you do. Cramming in as much physical activity as possible is not good for you. If your eating habits aren't dialed in properly you're just going to get weaker and feel lethargic so get on top of it asap if you're not doing so already. It's ok to take time away from skating to build/rebuild your body.

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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2024, 08:07:00 PM »
So I’ve been basically body building for the past 2 years and I go early in the morning sometimes to skate for cardio and later in the evening is usually do weight training. It’s been working great for me.
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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2024, 08:34:48 PM »
Cardio helps my legs feel great after a sesh

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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2024, 08:54:29 PM »
Skating on leg day rules. My muscles are all warm and stretched and they seem to react quicker.

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Re: Balancing skating with working out?
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2024, 09:10:37 PM »
I've recently come to realize that skating alone is not enough exercise for me and I need to incorporate other things such as running and weight-lifting in my routine to be as physically fit and healthy as I possibly can be. But sometimes I have a hard time balancing these things. Should I skate before or after lifting weights/running? Should I skate on leg day? How do I manage skating while my legs are sore from leg day? If anyone has any tips, please let me know.


Dont skate when legs are sore from gym lol  much more likely to roll ankle or knee.. your legs simply wont work nearly as well... i can get skate in day of doiing legs  and day after tho.. its not until late the next day gym catches up with me


 If your regularly skating probably do one day a week strength training legs... hip thrust and squat based exercises most benefit..

Skating on days when upper body is sore usually fine.. abs being sore suck but..  upper body targeting core will benefit skating most..

Apart   from that.. healthy diet.. find out recommend protein intake  and  try taking creatine  for faster recovery


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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2024, 11:48:22 PM »
I do four day split and skate 3 days.

Monday arms
Tuesday chest
Wednesday skate
Thursday back
Friday shoulders
Saturday skate
Sunday skate

I should really do leg workouts I just don't have the time and I feel like my legs get worked out enough from skating.
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2024, 12:53:08 AM »
Focus on lifting, running or jogging is just pointless joint damage to someone who wants to both skateboard and lift at the same time.

If you insist on running and want it to have literally any benefit at all then do sprints once every two weeks. A slow and long run or jog is just stupid especially for a skater.

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Re: Balancing skating with working out?
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2024, 05:46:57 AM »
I do four day split and skate 3 days.

Monday arms
Tuesday chest
Wednesday skate
Thursday back
Friday shoulders
Saturday skate
Sunday skate

I should really do leg workouts I just don't have the time and I feel like my legs get worked out enough from skating.

Nah man you can’t skip legs. And skating definitely does not work them enough. Atleast throw in some leg extensions and ham curls
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Re: Balancing skating with working out?
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2024, 05:55:22 AM »
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I do four day split and skate 3 days.

Monday arms
Tuesday chest
Wednesday skate
Thursday back
Friday shoulders
Saturday skate
Sunday skate

I should really do leg workouts I just don't have the time and I feel like my legs get worked out enough from skating.
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Nah man you can’t skip legs. And skating definitely does not work them enough. Atleast throw in some leg extensions and ham curls

You're probably right. One thing I hate is barbell squats. If I even take 2 weeks off them the muscles start to atrophy and I get horrible doms and I can't skate again when I start again. It's a very weak muscle area for me.
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Re: Balancing skating with working out?
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2024, 06:03:11 AM »
I've recently come to realize that skating alone is not enough exercise for me and I need to incorporate other things such as running and weight-lifting in my routine to be as physically fit and healthy as I possibly can be. But sometimes I have a hard time balancing these things. Should I skate before or after lifting weights/running? Should I skate on leg day? How do I manage skating while my legs are sore from leg day? If anyone has any tips, please let me know.

Skating definitely does not work out my legs enough. In fact, my knees are so chronically messed up from skating and other factors that I need to work my legs out in order to be able to skate pain free.

If I am skating that day, I sometimes do a lighter workout before the skate. Not so hard that I am carrying DOMS into it. In between skate days, I try to get a harder leg workout in to keep the strength topped up.

So, it depends on what level of intensity your leg day will be and your schedule for working out. If not a light leg session on the day of the skate, at least a good warmup - to keep performance and recovery flowing.

Maybe make a plan of a rough schedule on a whiteboard if you are struggling to keep to balance it

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Re: Balancing skating with working out?
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2024, 06:14:05 AM »
-ride ya bike

-get some resistance bands

-look up bodyweight/prison workouts

i'm of the opinion that living a bunch of heavy shit for no reason just makes you good at lifting heavy shit and i generally focus on "functional" strength. i've seen a lot of mega ripped dudes who can't bring their arms over their head and shit like that- no bueno. it'll be easier to work in the cardio you like to do if you aren't racked from DOMS anyway. just my 2 cents.

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Re: Balancing skating with working out?
« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2024, 09:42:46 AM »
I do four day split and skate 3 days.

Monday arms
Tuesday chest
Wednesday skate
Thursday back
Friday shoulders
Saturday skate
Sunday skate

I should really do leg workouts I just don't have the time and I feel like my legs get worked out enough from skating.

I followed this same logic thinking skating and cycling was enough for my legs. I was so wrong, leg lifts have been a game changer for skating and cycling. Strongly regret not starting years ago.

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« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2024, 09:59:23 AM »
Ok fuck it I'm gonna start. Will have it fit it into my 4 days because although I love the gym and I'll never miss it. I sure as fuck am not adding a 5th day in the week
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« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2024, 10:22:40 AM »
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I do four day split and skate 3 days.

Monday arms
Tuesday chest
Wednesday skate
Thursday back
Friday shoulders
Saturday skate
Sunday skate

I should really do leg workouts I just don't have the time and I feel like my legs get worked out enough from skating.
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I followed this same logic thinking skating and cycling was enough for my legs. I was so wrong, leg lifts have been a game changer for skating and cycling. Strongly regret not starting years ago.

^^ Absolutely this. Skating and cycling is not enough (anymore) at a certain age.

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Re: Balancing skating with working out?
« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2024, 12:37:35 PM »
Skate with leg weights. Maybe a weighted vest, too. Imagine the feeling when you take them off.

My buddy and I skated one summer with ankle weights on that we got from a sporting goods store. We swore it increased our strength and pop.

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« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2024, 01:31:05 PM »
I think the Fitness and Gym Thread (linked) is the right place for this - check that thread out to get some information.

As far as starting a gym routine with skate performance in mind, most general strength and conditioning routines will improve your fitness and athleticism. This can help your skating if you are also remaining consistent with your skateboarding “practice”. It can be tricky to balance the two, but it is helpful if you already have experience working out. Understanding your limits (in terms of how much working out you can tolerate) and what to adjust in your workout routine to keep skating a priority are the two most important factors in my experience.

If you haven’t worked out before, I would recommend looking into a trainer or online coach who can assist you with exercise technique, programming, and lifestyle adjustments to maximize your fitness gains.

For what it’s worth, I mainly do kettlebell and bodyweight exercises in a circuit fashion. This helps train strength and “cardio” (conditioning) in one workout. These qualities help me keep my skate endurance and tolerate the wear and tear that comes with bailing and slams.

What kettlebell exercises do you recommend? I never really used kettlebells before to be honest.

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« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2024, 01:31:54 PM »
I think weck has a patreon for this.

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« Reply #24 on: August 04, 2024, 01:35:03 PM »
So I’ve been basically body building for the past 2 years and I go early in the morning sometimes to skate for cardio and later in the evening is usually do weight training. It’s been working great for me.

This is probably ideal, the only issue is night time is when the homies come to the park. Skating is as much a social thing for me as much as it is a sport to push myself and improve at.

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« Reply #25 on: August 04, 2024, 01:50:30 PM »
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I do four day split and skate 3 days.

Monday arms
Tuesday chest
Wednesday skate
Thursday back
Friday shoulders
Saturday skate
Sunday skate

I should really do leg workouts I just don't have the time and I feel like my legs get worked out enough from skating.
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I followed this same logic thinking skating and cycling was enough for my legs. I was so wrong, leg lifts have been a game changer for skating and cycling. Strongly regret not starting years ago.

I second this. Your glutes, quads, and hamstrings are the largest muscles in your entire body. Skating isn't gonna cause hypertrophy for your leg muscles because you cannot progressively overload weight while you skate (unless you wear a weighted backpack, or something, while you skate). You might cause hypertrophy in your legs when you skate for the first time in a while, but once you skate consistently for a couple of weeks, you don't get sore and you don't gain any muscle anymore because you're muscles adapt and plateau. After that, it is simply just cardio. Strength training only half of your body makes no sense if your goal is health or an overall well-rounded physique.

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« Reply #26 on: August 04, 2024, 01:59:28 PM »
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I think the Fitness and Gym Thread (linked) is the right place for this - check that thread out to get some information.

As far as starting a gym routine with skate performance in mind, most general strength and conditioning routines will improve your fitness and athleticism. This can help your skating if you are also remaining consistent with your skateboarding “practice”. It can be tricky to balance the two, but it is helpful if you already have experience working out. Understanding your limits (in terms of how much working out you can tolerate) and what to adjust in your workout routine to keep skating a priority are the two most important factors in my experience.

If you haven’t worked out before, I would recommend looking into a trainer or online coach who can assist you with exercise technique, programming, and lifestyle adjustments to maximize your fitness gains.

For what it’s worth, I mainly do kettlebell and bodyweight exercises in a circuit fashion. This helps train strength and “cardio” (conditioning) in one workout. These qualities help me keep my skate endurance and tolerate the wear and tear that comes with bailing and slams.
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What kettlebell exercises do you recommend? I never really used kettlebells before to be honest.
There’s a lot of overlap with kettlebell and dumbbell exercise selection, although there are a lot of pretty crazy kettlebell workouts out there.

My personal favorites are fairly straightforward compound movements - walking and reverse lunges, kettlebell swings, and Romanian deadlifts for the legs (I find the “kickstand” variation mimics some skating positions well), single arm rows and clean and presses for the upper body.

Add in some bodyweight stuff like planks, push ups, etc. and you have a fairly simple full-body workout.

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« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2024, 02:51:37 PM »
-ride ya bike

-get some resistance bands

-look up bodyweight/prison workouts

i'm of the opinion that living a bunch of heavy shit for no reason just makes you good at lifting heavy shit and i generally focus on "functional" strength. i've seen a lot of mega ripped dudes who can't bring their arms over their head and shit like that- no bueno. it'll be easier to work in the cardio you like to do if you aren't racked from DOMS anyway. just my 2 cents.

oh and
-remember to rest. gains are made in bed.

I dunno if I totally agree. The reality is that strength training with weights is good for (mostly) everyone. You don't need to have the goal of being a roided beef cake or benching 500lbs to benefit from strength training with weights. In fact, you probably wouldn't even achieve that physique naturally before a good 10 years of working out. At which point, you could just dial back your calories to get smaller, or prevent yourself from getting bigger if you want.

I agree that bodyweight workouts are amazing, but they are best used in combination with weight training. You have little control over your body weight. You cannot change your body weight at a moment's notice. This means you cannot progressively overload weight which is very important for hypertrophy. Also, each muscle in your body needs a different amount of weight to be stimulated to its max. This is why weights are important, you can make adjustments to meet the needs of your muscles. You can do weighted pull ups, dips, and push ups, but at that point you are doing weight training and its no different than barbells and cables

For example, a lot of people cannot do a pull-up and if they can, it is probably less than 10. But those extra, lighter reps are really important for really tearing those muscle fibres. So, incorporating rows and lat pull-downs to your regiment might be necessary to build strength most efficiently, because they can control the weight on those exercises and progressively overload.

On the flip side, push-ups are simply too easy. A physically fit person would have to do sets of 25 reps of push-ups to actually be doing anything productive. Why would you do that if you could do sets of 6-10 reps of bench press and work the muscle even better because you can progressively overload the weight.

Sorry if this is like really detailed, I'm just starting to get passionate about weightlifting again after neglecting it for about 4 years. It's just that this mindset you are pushing is the same mindset that robbed me of all those gains I could have been accumulating for those many years of not working out. Do some research and look at academic articles, it's unanimous that weightlifting is good for you health of most ages and all sexes individuals with no pre-existing conditions. Issues only really arise when folks are too old (honestly probably 70+ years old), have pre-existing heart conditions, or are otherwise injured.

See this study. https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/sports-and-active-living/articles/10.3389/fspor.2022.778491/full

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« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2024, 02:56:03 PM »
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I think the Fitness and Gym Thread (linked) is the right place for this - check that thread out to get some information.

As far as starting a gym routine with skate performance in mind, most general strength and conditioning routines will improve your fitness and athleticism. This can help your skating if you are also remaining consistent with your skateboarding “practice”. It can be tricky to balance the two, but it is helpful if you already have experience working out. Understanding your limits (in terms of how much working out you can tolerate) and what to adjust in your workout routine to keep skating a priority are the two most important factors in my experience.

If you haven’t worked out before, I would recommend looking into a trainer or online coach who can assist you with exercise technique, programming, and lifestyle adjustments to maximize your fitness gains.

For what it’s worth, I mainly do kettlebell and bodyweight exercises in a circuit fashion. This helps train strength and “cardio” (conditioning) in one workout. These qualities help me keep my skate endurance and tolerate the wear and tear that comes with bailing and slams.
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What kettlebell exercises do you recommend? I never really used kettlebells before to be honest.
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There’s a lot of overlap with kettlebell and dumbbell exercise selection, although there are a lot of pretty crazy kettlebell workouts out there.

My personal favorites are fairly straightforward compound movements - walking and reverse lunges, kettlebell swings, and Romanian deadlifts for the legs (I find the “kickstand” variation mimics some skating positions well), single arm rows and clean and presses for the upper body.

Add in some bodyweight stuff like planks, push ups, etc. and you have a fairly simple full-body workout.

Do you think there's any benefit of doing these workouts with kettlebells over dumbells or is it the same shit? also I agree lunges are goated haha

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Re: Balancing skating with working out?
« Reply #29 on: August 04, 2024, 03:09:49 PM »
Ok fuck it I'm gonna start. Will have it fit it into my 4 days because although I love the gym and I'll never miss it. I sure as fuck am not adding a 5th day in the week

you could try my split for four days, 1. chest and end with also working side delts 2. legs 3. arms 4. back and end with rear delts.
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