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Re: Made In China - Tariffs and impact on prices
« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2024, 12:19:51 PM »
American companies can produce in America again. Maybe it'll save them some money??

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Re: Made In China - Tariffs and impact on prices
« Reply #31 on: November 07, 2024, 12:37:31 PM »
The only positive of prices for gear skyrocketing is making my constant buying of on sale boards and my huge on ice collection look like brilliant 4d chess.

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Re: Made In China - Tariffs and impact on prices
« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2024, 12:38:46 PM »
As @123 said, tariffs are more or less an exclusive function of the executive branch, so it's one of the easiest things an incoming Trump administration can do. The numbers being thrown around are: up to 60% on Chinese goods (there are currently still 25% duties on a significant amount of Chinese imports from the first administration), 25% duties on imports from Mexico, and a flat 10% on all imports regardless of Origin.

 I work in an outdoor sports industry where all manufacturing is overseas with a significant amount in China. A lot of companies did attempt to diversify their supply chain when the first Chinese duties were announced, but almost none of it was onshored back in America; Most of it was moved to other Asian countries and even then a significant portion remained in China. All of that cost is passed along to your local shops and eventually to the consumer via raised prices.

As far as the exemptions are concerned, there were a lot of trade organizations and dedicated civil servants who worked on passing exemptions on items that may no longer have the support of the administration so I don't think it can be counted on. Also, a lot of the exemptions were retroactive, which means the companies importing already paid the duties, raised the cost of the goods and sold them into the market before the exemptions were approved. That money does not just get refunded to the importer, you have to work with a dedicated duty drawback professional at significant cost to try and recover those paid duties. Most companies don't have the time or money to do so, so it's functionally immaterial.
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Re: Made In China - Tariffs and impact on prices
« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2024, 05:30:30 PM »
I’ll grab a couple of crailtap gO27 while I still can for a decent price and a couple other boards I like to put on ice.
But the shop decks at the local are clutch and even though they loose their pop, they are light and pretty sure are USA made so maybe those will be my new go to.
And I’d rather support the local shop anyway.
And I hope all the core shops can survive
The terrifs. Honestly surprised that the trump supporters can’t figure out that his terrifs will make shit cost more.

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Re: Made In China - Tariffs and impact on prices
« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2024, 10:16:44 PM »
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Loads of EU brands soft goods are made here, HLC wood apparently is decent now, so not worried about the impact on us. I can skate film trucks and pay over a bit more in a few years when i run out of spitfires for them. Apparently the DLX china wood is good to according to various reviews I've read on here so no need to worry EU pals.
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I live in the states and have been happy with the HLC decks I’ve had.
Happy they set up shop in TX. I know Skate Warehouse is using US made HLC blanks. Can’t bring myself to spend $75+ on a DLX deck.

Post in the woodshop thread about them. Are the US skate Mafia decks pressed by HLC now also?

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Re: Made In China - Tariffs and impact on prices
« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2024, 07:10:33 AM »
I’ll grab a couple of crailtap gO27 while I still can for a decent price and a couple other boards I like to put on ice.
But the shop decks at the local are clutch and even though they loose their pop, they are light and pretty sure are USA made so maybe those will be my new go to.
And I’d rather support the local shop anyway.
And I hope all the core shops can survive
The terrifs. Honestly surprised that the trump supporters can’t figure out that his terrifs will make shit cost more.

For clarity, Clutch boards are made in Mexico. But for the purposes of this thread that doesn't really matter.

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Re: Made In China - Tariffs and impact on prices
« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2024, 07:36:13 AM »
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I’ll grab a couple of crailtap gO27 while I still can for a decent price and a couple other boards I like to put on ice.
But the shop decks at the local are clutch and even though they loose their pop, they are light and pretty sure are USA made so maybe those will be my new go to.
And I’d rather support the local shop anyway.
And I hope all the core shops can survive
The terrifs. Honestly surprised that the trump supporters can’t figure out that his terrifs will make shit cost more.
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For clarity, Clutch boards are made in Mexico. But for the purposes of this thread that doesn't really matter.
Appreciate the info

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Re: Made In China - Tariffs and impact on prices
« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2024, 09:12:20 AM »
Actually is NAFTA still a thing? North American Free Trade agreement ? Think it was called that.

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Re: Made In China - Tariffs and impact on prices
« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2024, 09:31:15 AM »
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Loads of EU brands soft goods are made here, HLC wood apparently is decent now, so not worried about the impact on us. I can skate film trucks and pay over a bit more in a few years when i run out of spitfires for them. Apparently the DLX china wood is good to according to various reviews I've read on here so no need to worry EU pals.
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I live in the states and have been happy with the HLC decks I’ve had.
Happy they set up shop in TX. I know Skate Warehouse is using US made HLC blanks. Can’t bring myself to spend $75+ on a DLX deck.
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Post in the woodshop thread about them. Are the US skate Mafia decks pressed by HLC now also?

It’s in there if you use the search function. Don’t need the mods lecturing me on duplicate posts. ✌️

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Re: Made In China - Tariffs and impact on prices
« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2024, 09:51:58 AM »
Actually is NAFTA still a thing? North American Free Trade agreement ? Think it was called that.

NAFTA was replaced by USMCA US Mexico Canada agreement

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Re: Made In China - Tariffs and impact on prices
« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2024, 12:27:09 PM »
I don’t remember boards being more expensive when trump was in, I think the recent increase is all that the buyer will accept….the industry will have to figure it out….

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Re: Made In China - Tariffs and impact on prices
« Reply #41 on: November 08, 2024, 06:00:14 PM »
you called?

Came here for this, and was not disappointed!

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Re: Made In China - Tariffs and impact on prices
« Reply #42 on: November 09, 2024, 01:45:34 PM »
American companies can produce in America again. Maybe it'll save them some money??

lol look at american wages vs wages in china and have a good think about that

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Re: Made In China - Tariffs and impact on prices
« Reply #43 on: November 09, 2024, 02:28:53 PM »
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Re: Made In China - Tariffs and impact on prices
« Reply #44 on: November 09, 2024, 02:50:06 PM »
Wtf are we supposed to do if we can't get goods produced by the most exploited workforce on the planet?

How will we manage?

How will we survive?


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Re: Made In China - Tariffs and impact on prices
« Reply #45 on: November 09, 2024, 10:51:21 PM »
Wtf are we supposed to do if we can't get goods produced by the most exploited workforce on the planet?

How will we manage?

How will we survive?

Bangladesh might be closer to the bottom of the barrel.

I’m not sure immigrant-supplied sweatshops in the US are better than China at this point.
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Re: Made In China - Tariffs and impact on prices
« Reply #46 on: November 10, 2024, 05:47:04 AM »
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Wtf are we supposed to do if we can't get goods produced by the most exploited workforce on the planet?

How will we manage?

How will we survive?
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Bangladesh might be closer to the bottom of the barrel.

I’m not sure immigrant-supplied sweatshops in the US are better than China at this point.

I know, I know, "USA bad" and all that.

But there's no shot we are doing a worse job than China when it comes to workers protections. At least when we're talking within the realm of what is actually legal here.

I'm sure immigrant sweatshops exist, and are horrible, but it's not like they are totally legal operations.

Our use of prison labor if anything would probably be the best (worst) example of us exploiting a workforce in our own country. But that still pretty much pales in comparison to what goes on in China completely legally.