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Re: eu and germany encouraging pedophilia?
« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2007, 11:18:16 AM »
yo matze, care to translate the article?

my german is a little rusty.
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Re: eu and germany encouraging pedophilia?
« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2007, 11:37:46 AM »
well i was pretty lazy and used a online translator ... how is the grammar? hopefully better than mine 
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Hamburg - The planned changes which go back to a frame decision of the European Union had bumped before into violent criticism with opposition, lawyers and sexual experts. When and in which form the bill now once more is an object of the consultations, is still open.

As problematic, above all, the fact is looked that under the new legislation the certain sexual approaches which were punishable up to now in Germany towards youngsters less than 16 years could be made a punishable offence with all persons under age. Youngsters would have - also with actions which are called in the social contact generally "Turning on" and "Fummelei" - can make themselves from now on even of the abuse of other youngsters punishable.

As problematic, above all, the fact is looked that under the new legislation the certain sexual approaches which were punishable up to now in Germany towards youngsters less than 16 years could be made a punishable offence with all persons under age. Youngsters would have - also with actions which are called in the social contact generally "Turning on" and "Fummelei" - can make themselves from now on even of the abuse of other youngsters punishable.

" Sexual abuse of youngsters " assumes in this country up to now that the culprit at least 18 and the victim is 16 years old under, and with it an age difference of at least two years exists. However, now after the EU default makes itself also punishable who "abuses" 16-or 17-year-old: This would be after the new law text already the case if an upper stage pupil invites a friend in the cinema, in hope that they move for it there to sexual actions.

Then stroking her breasts possibly could be punishable already because the invitation counts then as a "remuneration". Fine or even prison sentence also threaten that which uses a "compulsive position" - possibly if he tries to become intimate with a youngster who spends the night in the absence of a transport facility after a party at him. By the will of the EU the "attempt" should be an offence already from now on.

Germany has fought for a differentiation after the age of the victims, indeed, at European level up to the end - in vain. However, now the government coalition threatens even the youngsters even with punishment: To Zypries' law from 14 to 17-year-old already make themselves as punishable as an adult.

Now, indeed, Minister of Justice Zypries allowed to explain, " concerted sexual contacts between youngsters after a film invitation " would not be grasped " by the law ". Such cases, explains a speaker, are "social-adequate" and did not fall under the " protective purpose of the norm ". In the law grounds, the federal Ministry of Justice puts away, is not found such a clarification up to now, however.

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Re: eu and germany encouraging pedophilia?
« Reply #32 on: December 11, 2007, 11:43:08 AM »
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Re: eu and germany encouraging pedophilia?
« Reply #33 on: December 11, 2007, 01:21:10 PM »
Much ado about nothing, as expected.
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Re: eu and germany encouraging pedophilia?
« Reply #34 on: December 11, 2007, 03:18:25 PM »
Since a few of you posted documentaries http://popperslist.blogspot.com/ has some, mostly history stuff
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Re: eu and germany encouraging pedophilia?
« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2007, 08:20:41 PM »
im just happy this thread didnt turn into a child porn posting thread, you never know on this site