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« Reply #2070 on: March 19, 2021, 09:33:14 AM »
Thanks guys. My local bike shop guy took the the assembly off cause he didnít have one to sell me, but I think I didnít state clearly enough what I was doing cause he removed the hub and cog assembly.

If I want to keep the hub how do I know if the hub (which is a screw on) has cogs permanently attached?

Is the only way to find out with a chain whip and cassette tool 1.3? BTW: This is a 7 speed comfort bike. Here are pics:




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« Reply #2071 on: March 19, 2021, 03:27:54 PM »
freewheel remover tool- thatís not a cassette. itís gonna be threaded on the inside of the cogs as well as on the drive side of the hub.

why are you removing it? itís gonna be an MF to make single speed w spacers etc
with that being said. cky enthusiast you seem like the worst dude with a very low attention span, i mean you never have watched a skate video in its entirley, why dont you just shut the fuck up if you never have to say anyt

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« Reply #2072 on: March 19, 2021, 03:53:38 PM »
you're getting some terms mixed up. the hub is the center of the wheel. the spokes attach to it. it may have a freehub body that a cassette slides onto (in this case the ratcheting mechanism is in the hub), or it may, like the bike you have pictured here, have a freewheel, which is a single piece that contains all the rear gears and the ratcheting mechanism.

cassettes are held in place by a lock ring that screws onto the outboard side of the freehub body, the piece of the hub that the cassette slides onto (like the stock photo you posted -- which to make things extra confusing looks like lockring photoshopped into place over a freewheel -- but that piece in the center is what you'll see on a cassette). freewheels are all a single piece and will lack a lockring. generally 7 speed or less will usually be freewheels and 8 speeds or more will usually be casettes. exceptions apply.

you only need a chain whip to remove a cassette.

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« Reply #2073 on: March 19, 2021, 04:01:59 PM »
freewheel remover tool- thatís not a cassette. itís gonna be threaded on the inside of the cogs as well as on the drive side of the hub.

why are you removing it? itís gonna be an MF to make single speed w spacers etc

Well, long story short, the derailleur was not functioning properly and the back pedal was dropping the chain. I tried to tension the cable and it pulled out. It was so damaged it would not go back in.

About 10 years ago I did a single speed conversion on a mountain bike and it came out great. Itís my wifeís bike and she does not like shifting gears so I thought perfect, but I did not realize that the gears were on a freewheel and all my stuff is for a cassette.

At this point I think I will just get a new wheel with a freewheel built in and build off of that. Let me know if you think this combo will work:





And Iíll just keep the current wheel just in case...thoughts?




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« Reply #2074 on: March 19, 2021, 04:05:52 PM »
you're getting some terms mixed up. the hub is the center of the wheel. the spokes attach to it. it may have a freehub body that a cassette slides onto (in this case the ratcheting mechanism is in the hub), or it may, like the bike you have pictured here, have a freewheel, which is a single piece that contains all the rear gears and the ratcheting mechanism.

cassettes are held in place by a lock ring that screws onto the outboard side of the freehub body, the piece of the hub that the cassette slides onto (like the stock photo you posted -- which to make things extra confusing looks like lockring photoshopped into place over a freewheel -- but that piece in the center is what you'll see on a cassette). freewheels are all a single piece and will lack a lockring. generally 7 speed or less will usually be freewheels and 8 speeds or more will usually be casettes. exceptions apply.

you only need a chain whip to remove a cassette.

Got it. Thanks. I now know the terms. I have a chain whip but Iíve been to 3 local shops and none have a 1.3 cassette tool. I guess I have to order off Jenson or Nashbar.

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« Reply #2075 on: March 19, 2021, 04:47:44 PM »
I bought a junker Surly Steamroller off of a homeless guy on offerup a while back. I paid $400 for a complete bike, but it ended up being way too big and had a dent in the frame I didnít notice.  I was so bummed on myself. Ended up stripping it down to the frame, cleaned years of muck off. Tightened up the hubs, converted it to fixed, and replaced everything but the crankset and seat post with low end Ritchey stuff and a new saddle that came stock on my gravel bike that I never used. New surly decals. Everything cost about $100. Ended up selling it for $600 yesterday.

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« Reply #2076 on: March 19, 2021, 06:04:23 PM »
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freewheel remover tool- thatís not a cassette. itís gonna be threaded on the inside of the cogs as well as on the drive side of the hub.

why are you removing it? itís gonna be an MF to make single speed w spacers etc
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Well, long story short, the derailleur was not functioning properly and the back pedal was dropping the chain. I tried to tension the cable and it pulled out. It was so damaged it would not go back in.

About 10 years ago I did a single speed conversion on a mountain bike and it came out great. Itís my wifeís bike and she does not like shifting gears so I thought perfect, but I did not realize that the gears were on a freewheel and all my stuff is for a cassette.

At this point I think I will just get a new wheel with a freewheel built in and build off of that. Let me know if you think this combo will work:





And Iíll just keep the current wheel just in case...thoughts?


it'll work, but because her frame has vertical drop outs (where the wheel attaches to the frame), you'll need some kind of device to tension the chain. an old derailleur can work if you can fuck around with the limit screws, or you can get something purpose built like a surly singleator. or you might just get lucky and have the frame size correspond exactly to a certain length of chain, though that almost never happens.

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« Reply #2077 on: March 19, 2021, 07:05:22 PM »
^^^thanks bro

Appreciate the advice. I must have got lucky on my last project cause this is a lot harder than I remember.

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« Reply #2078 on: March 22, 2021, 03:32:33 PM »
I bought a junker Surly Steamroller off of a homeless guy on offerup a while back. I paid $400 for a complete bike, but it ended up being way too big and had a dent in the frame I didnít notice.  I was so bummed on myself. Ended up stripping it down to the frame, cleaned years of muck off. Tightened up the hubs, converted it to fixed, and replaced everything but the crankset and seat post with low end Ritchey stuff and a new saddle that came stock on my gravel bike that I never used. New surly decals. Everything cost about $100. Ended up selling it for $600 yesterday.


This is a feel good story. 

Now go ride your gravel bike.
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« Reply #2079 on: March 22, 2021, 08:00:16 PM »
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I bought a junker Surly Steamroller off of a homeless guy on offerup a while back. I paid $400 for a complete bike, but it ended up being way too big and had a dent in the frame I didnít notice.  I was so bummed on myself. Ended up stripping it down to the frame, cleaned years of muck off. Tightened up the hubs, converted it to fixed, and replaced everything but the crankset and seat post with low end Ritchey stuff and a new saddle that came stock on my gravel bike that I never used. New surly decals. Everything cost about $100. Ended up selling it for $600 yesterday.

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This is a feel good story. 

Now go ride your gravel bike.
Ha, I guess I worded that sentence about the saddle funny. I never used the saddle. I immediately replaced it with a brooks c17.

Youíre right though, I have been neglecting it. I have a Bianchi San Jose fixed gear that I ride way more than my gravel bike.

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« Reply #2080 on: March 22, 2021, 09:47:41 PM »
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I bought a junker Surly Steamroller off of a homeless guy on offerup a while back. I paid $400 for a complete bike, but it ended up being way too big and had a dent in the frame I didnít notice.  I was so bummed on myself. Ended up stripping it down to the frame, cleaned years of muck off. Tightened up the hubs, converted it to fixed, and replaced everything but the crankset and seat post with low end Ritchey stuff and a new saddle that came stock on my gravel bike that I never used. New surly decals. Everything cost about $100. Ended up selling it for $600 yesterday.

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This is a feel good story. 

Now go ride your gravel bike.
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Ha, I guess I worded that sentence about the saddle funny. I never used the saddle. I immediately replaced it with a brooks c17.

Youíre right though, I have been neglecting it. I have a Bianchi San Jose fixed gear that I ride way more than my gravel bike.


I feel you on neglecting a gravel bike over an SSCX ride. Whats old is new again, go figure. Į\_(ツ)_/Į

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« Reply #2081 on: March 29, 2021, 05:48:20 PM »
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freewheel remover tool- thatís not a cassette. itís gonna be threaded on the inside of the cogs as well as on the drive side of the hub.

why are you removing it? itís gonna be an MF to make single speed w spacers etc
[close]

Well, long story short, the derailleur was not functioning properly and the back pedal was dropping the chain. I tried to tension the cable and it pulled out. It was so damaged it would not go back in.

About 10 years ago I did a single speed conversion on a mountain bike and it came out great. Itís my wifeís bike and she does not like shifting gears so I thought perfect, but I did not realize that the gears were on a freewheel and all my stuff is for a cassette.

At this point I think I will just get a new wheel with a freewheel built in and build off of that. Let me know if you think this combo will work:





And Iíll just keep the current wheel just in case...thoughts?
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it'll work, but because her frame has vertical drop outs (where the wheel attaches to the frame), you'll need some kind of device to tension the chain. an old derailleur can work if you can fuck around with the limit screws, or you can get something purpose built like a surly singleator. or you might just get lucky and have the frame size correspond exactly to a certain length of chain, though that almost never happens.

I got the gear clamps and rear cog and I took off the rear freewheel gears thinking I could use the wheel but the freewheel is too large so I have to buy a new rear wheel with cassette (pictured above).

I noticed I could buy either a 130mm or 135mm. Not sure what this means but I measured the distance from drop to drop and the ID is pretty much 135mm. I measured 5.38Ē which is 136.6mm when converted so if that is where I should measure I think I need 135mm.

https://www.jensonusa.com/Quality-Wheels-700C-Hybrid-Wheel-Formula-Front-Hub-Alex-Y2000-Rim?pt_source=googleads&pt_medium=cpc&pt_campaign=shopping_us&pt_keyword=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvPbYkNvW7wIVA6SzCh0tHAQhEAQYBCABEgKXqvD_BwE

Any advice is appreciated. Iím a wheel and a tensioner away from getting my wifeís bike on the road.

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« Reply #2082 on: March 29, 2021, 07:09:33 PM »
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freewheel remover tool- thatís not a cassette. itís gonna be threaded on the inside of the cogs as well as on the drive side of the hub.

why are you removing it? itís gonna be an MF to make single speed w spacers etc
[close]

Well, long story short, the derailleur was not functioning properly and the back pedal was dropping the chain. I tried to tension the cable and it pulled out. It was so damaged it would not go back in.

About 10 years ago I did a single speed conversion on a mountain bike and it came out great. Itís my wifeís bike and she does not like shifting gears so I thought perfect, but I did not realize that the gears were on a freewheel and all my stuff is for a cassette.

At this point I think I will just get a new wheel with a freewheel built in and build off of that. Let me know if you think this combo will work:





And Iíll just keep the current wheel just in case...thoughts?
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it'll work, but because her frame has vertical drop outs (where the wheel attaches to the frame), you'll need some kind of device to tension the chain. an old derailleur can work if you can fuck around with the limit screws, or you can get something purpose built like a surly singleator. or you might just get lucky and have the frame size correspond exactly to a certain length of chain, though that almost never happens.
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I got the gear clamps and rear cog and I took off the rear freewheel gears thinking I could use the wheel but the freewheel is too large so I have to buy a new rear wheel with cassette (pictured above).

I noticed I could buy either a 130mm or 135mm. Not sure what this means but I measured the distance from drop to drop and the ID is pretty much 135mm. I measured 5.38Ē which is 136.6mm when converted so if that is where I should measure I think I need 135mm.

https://www.jensonusa.com/Quality-Wheels-700C-Hybrid-Wheel-Formula-Front-Hub-Alex-Y2000-Rim?pt_source=googleads&pt_medium=cpc&pt_campaign=shopping_us&pt_keyword=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvPbYkNvW7wIVA6SzCh0tHAQhEAQYBCABEgKXqvD_BwE

Any advice is appreciated. Iím a wheel and a tensioner away from getting my wifeís bike on the road.

135mm is pretty standard for older road and mountain stuff.  The Quality Wheels are just QBP pre-laced budget stuff.  Not bad at all for the price. 

TL:DR. Get the 135mm

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« Reply #2083 on: March 29, 2021, 08:42:29 PM »
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freewheel remover tool- thatís not a cassette. itís gonna be threaded on the inside of the cogs as well as on the drive side of the hub.

why are you removing it? itís gonna be an MF to make single speed w spacers etc
[close]

Well, long story short, the derailleur was not functioning properly and the back pedal was dropping the chain. I tried to tension the cable and it pulled out. It was so damaged it would not go back in.

About 10 years ago I did a single speed conversion on a mountain bike and it came out great. Itís my wifeís bike and she does not like shifting gears so I thought perfect, but I did not realize that the gears were on a freewheel and all my stuff is for a cassette.

At this point I think I will just get a new wheel with a freewheel built in and build off of that. Let me know if you think this combo will work:





And Iíll just keep the current wheel just in case...thoughts?
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it'll work, but because her frame has vertical drop outs (where the wheel attaches to the frame), you'll need some kind of device to tension the chain. an old derailleur can work if you can fuck around with the limit screws, or you can get something purpose built like a surly singleator. or you might just get lucky and have the frame size correspond exactly to a certain length of chain, though that almost never happens.
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I got the gear clamps and rear cog and I took off the rear freewheel gears thinking I could use the wheel but the freewheel is too large so I have to buy a new rear wheel with cassette (pictured above).

I noticed I could buy either a 130mm or 135mm. Not sure what this means but I measured the distance from drop to drop and the ID is pretty much 135mm. I measured 5.38Ē which is 136.6mm when converted so if that is where I should measure I think I need 135mm.

https://www.jensonusa.com/Quality-Wheels-700C-Hybrid-Wheel-Formula-Front-Hub-Alex-Y2000-Rim?pt_source=googleads&pt_medium=cpc&pt_campaign=shopping_us&pt_keyword=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvPbYkNvW7wIVA6SzCh0tHAQhEAQYBCABEgKXqvD_BwE

Any advice is appreciated. Iím a wheel and a tensioner away from getting my wifeís bike on the road.

I'd recommend using a dedicated SS cog and spacer kit with tensioner, over a repurposed cog from a cassette. The spacer kit will keep the cog in place better than the gear clamps. I have them but found I could get a lateral wiggle, at the cog when under load so I went back to using spacers. The 2.5-3mm hex at best, isn't exactly the sorta thing I had major confidence in once I was riding it. Surly cog, spacer kit and tensioner get my vote.

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« Reply #2084 on: March 30, 2021, 01:03:53 PM »
Spring is here, took my road bike out there for the first time today and man it feels great to go fast again😎 Been riding my 30years old mtb whole winter, and while my technique is lost I feel like I got alot more power than year before so this summer should be good.
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« Reply #2085 on: March 30, 2021, 06:51:57 PM »
Decided to take my rear brake off and flip my hub to fixed on my Steamroiller today. It has been years since I've ridden fixed. I'm sure my back and knees will regret this decision before May.

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« Reply #2086 on: April 06, 2021, 07:37:00 AM »
Laid off for a couple weeks so I had my first ride of the season. 8 miles out to a spot that sucks to drive to.

Definitely gonna be doing more but how do you guys rack your boards up? Did the bungee on the handlebars yesterday and knicked up my grip. Obviously thereís stuff on Amazon, but with the layoff I wanna make sure I get something legit

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« Reply #2087 on: April 06, 2021, 10:02:23 AM »
Laid off for a couple weeks so I had my first ride of the season. 8 miles out to a spot that sucks to drive to.

Definitely gonna be doing more but how do you guys rack your boards up? Did the bungee on the handlebars yesterday and knicked up my grip. Obviously thereís stuff on Amazon, but with the layoff I wanna make sure I get something legit

Didnít want something limited to just skateboard carry so I bought this:

https://www.sportsunlimitedinc.com/topeak-mtx-beam-bike-rack-ex-mtx-snap-fit-compatible.html?utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=pla&country=US&CID=PPC&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIrIKLjIrq7wIVjuDICh1EBQKREAQYDCABEgJg4fD_BwE

Itís nice cause you take it off easily when not in use and they have bags to fit.

I basically just wrapped bungee cords around the board and the rack and once in place you donít notice.

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« Reply #2088 on: April 06, 2021, 02:00:51 PM »
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Laid off for a couple weeks so I had my first ride of the season. 8 miles out to a spot that sucks to drive to.

Definitely gonna be doing more but how do you guys rack your boards up? Did the bungee on the handlebars yesterday and knicked up my grip. Obviously thereís stuff on Amazon, but with the layoff I wanna make sure I get something legit
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Didnít want something limited to just skateboard carry so I bought this:

https://www.sportsunlimitedinc.com/topeak-mtx-beam-bike-rack-ex-mtx-snap-fit-compatible.html?utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=pla&country=US&CID=PPC&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIrIKLjIrq7wIVjuDICh1EBQKREAQYDCABEgJg4fD_BwE

Itís nice cause you take it off easily when not in use and they have bags to fit.

I basically just wrapped bungee cords around the board and the rack and once in place you donít notice.

I have a basket on my bike with two bungee chords across it. I slip the wheels on one of my trucks between the two bungee chords and have it hanging off to the left or the right, pretty much flush with the basket and pointing down. The two chords are more towards the back of the basket so there's still plenty of room to put my backpack in the basket.

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« Reply #2089 on: April 06, 2021, 03:41:19 PM »
I just use my Cetma rack on the front.  Rear racks stress me out, I can never see whats going on back there.  Plus I work on my bike so having the front rack is key for me.  I just take the box off it and bungee my deck down with a waterbottle on top usually. 

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« Reply #2090 on: April 06, 2021, 06:01:36 PM »
https://meserollshop.com/products/fairdale-skate-rack

You'll need a rear rack to attach it to.

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« Reply #2091 on: April 07, 2021, 05:50:57 AM »
been having a blast here in oslo lately. I'm furloughed so I have tons of time to get a lot of spring rides in, and most of them happen on gravel/mud with a bit of snow/ice in the darkest corners. I can basically get from my door to gravel within 500m, so I don't have to fuck around with thrash-phalt.


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« Reply #2092 on: April 07, 2021, 02:24:15 PM »
been having a blast here in oslo lately. I'm furloughed so I have tons of time to get a lot of spring rides in, and most of them happen on gravel/mud with a bit of snow/ice in the darkest corners. I can basically get from my door to gravel within 500m, so I don't have to fuck around with thrash-phalt.



I don't know what that is, but it looks fun.  Good for you for not wasting your down time.
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« Reply #2093 on: April 07, 2021, 05:06:09 PM »
@ungzilla

That feeling when you realize you donít have to spend $50.00 on a chain tensioner.

Thanks to everyone that helped me with this project.

My next goal is to learn how to set brakes so the hand lever snaps back into position. Disk breaks have to be so much easier.

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« Reply #2094 on: April 08, 2021, 04:23:13 AM »
I picked up this 2019 Trek checkpoint aluminum a little while ago. Sram apex, with sram force shifters. It came with flat pedals, fenders and a funny top tube bag. I guess the guy planned to bike pack but didn't actually want to ride the bike.
I installed some old spd pedals, a few sensors and got a handlebar bag from rapha.  I have taken it out 2x on light days on some local gravel trails. It's a tank, heavy but feels indestructible.



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« Reply #2095 on: April 08, 2021, 05:39:59 AM »
everybody wanna bike pack but no one wanna ride the bike...

that thing is sick. i generally hate new trekís but i always like when a checkpoint comes through the shop. itís real sporty for a gravel bike.
with that being said. cky enthusiast you seem like the worst dude with a very low attention span, i mean you never have watched a skate video in its entirley, why dont you just shut the fuck up if you never have to say anyt

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« Reply #2096 on: April 08, 2021, 06:36:44 AM »
I agree, TREK is a boring company with bland products, but they make quality stuff. I got my mine used off pinkbike, but my local trek dealer is run by christian morons.
If you call the store to ask them about a product, they will just refer you to the website. The other shop that sells, sepcalized, cannondale and cervelo will talk to you, answer your questions without attitude and promote cycling.

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« Reply #2097 on: April 08, 2021, 07:33:27 AM »
I just use my Cetma rack on the front.  Rear racks stress me out, I can never see whats going on back there.  Plus I work on my bike so having the front rack is key for me.  I just take the box off it and bungee my deck down with a waterbottle on top usually. 
3 rail? 5 rail? Iíd like a front rack

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« Reply #2098 on: April 08, 2021, 07:34:44 AM »
Decided to take my rear brake off and flip my hub to fixed on my Steamroiller today. It has been years since I've ridden fixed. I'm sure my back and knees will regret this decision before May.
was considering this as well as my daughter started riding her bike (sheís 3...) around the neighborhood and usually I just skate. But wouldnít mind riding more and thereís a nice bike path next to my office. I can see fixed bothering my knees now too.. you going to switch back?

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« Reply #2099 on: April 08, 2021, 08:17:39 AM »
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Decided to take my rear brake off and flip my hub to fixed on my Steamroiller today. It has been years since I've ridden fixed. I'm sure my back and knees will regret this decision before May.
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was considering this as well as my daughter started riding her bike (sheís 3...) around the neighborhood and usually I just skate. But wouldnít mind riding more and thereís a nice bike path next to my office. I can see fixed bothering my knees now too.. you going to switch back?


It has been  more fun than I thought. I used to ride brakeless fixed to work through rush hour traffic when I was an angry younger man. That played hell on my back and knees with all skipping and skidding. These days my commute is super mellow and I take several mellow rides across town each day for work errands and I have no shame in using the front brake for additional stopping power these days at all. I am also using lower gearing. Riding fixed makes these boring little rides more engaging for sure and it is good for 'mindfulness' practice. Also, track stands are way more fun at lights.

All that said, I will likely put the rear brake back on at some point and flip the hub as I have this glorious White Industries Freewheel on there that is basically the fanciest component on my fifteen year old bike and there is nothing like listening to that thing ticking as I'm coasting. Ultimately, I ride a lot faster and feel way more comfortable with a freewheel and rim brakes.