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« Reply #2400 on: September 12, 2021, 07:44:28 AM »
whichever is the foot you keep in front when doing features (jumps, which foot pulls up on log overs etc) determines your stance- just like skating. i skate and ride mtb regular.
with that being said. cky enthusiast you seem like the worst dude with a very low attention span, i mean you never have watched a skate video in its entirley, why dont you just shut the fuck up if you never have to say anyt

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« Reply #2401 on: September 12, 2021, 11:23:24 AM »
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@PuffinMuffin  @camp chill yourself @manysnakes

Awesome, thanks for the input!

That guy pissed me off by calling me a kook but I have settled right on down. 

Sometimes trying to save money ends up not being worth it.  For example, using a dull chef knife for a long time rather than get a sharpener or a new set. 

I'll hit up my bike local and see what they charge.  Maybe get better brakes in the process.  I do sort of want a jalopy bike so no one wants to steal it.
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He wasnít calling you a kook, but rather the wheels kooky. Honestly, if I saw big brand carbon trispoke wheels on a Walmart bike Iíd assume theyíre stolen. If youíre not used to deep section rims youíll be at the mercy of gusts of wind. We like having you around on SLAP and donít want to see you squished under an SUV.

If I was you, Iíd ride your wheelset until it fails. Prices are still hiked due to massive supply shortages.

Yeah no kook call outs from me.  Just input on the wheels.  You'd be far better off with a well built spoked wheelset than a tri-spoke, for less money and more longevity.  Buy some Sun CR18s if you need replacements, have a shop check true/tension, and they'll last you 15-20 years.

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« Reply #2402 on: September 13, 2021, 08:02:27 AM »
You can also get Carbon fiber rims, they don't get out of true.  I ride WEAREONE carbon rims on my mountain bike and they are solid.

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« Reply #2403 on: September 13, 2021, 08:30:17 AM »
You can also get Carbon fiber rims, they don't get out of true.  I ride WEAREONE carbon rims on my mountain bike and they are solid.

That's not true at all. Whoever told you that lied to you. :(
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« Reply #2404 on: September 13, 2021, 08:46:03 AM »
I never knew there were stances in MTB, I'm not sure it matters to me which foot is in front when I hit features. I'll have to pay attention next time I ride.

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« Reply #2405 on: September 13, 2021, 05:53:35 PM »
I never knew there were stances in MTB, I'm not sure it matters to me which foot is in front when I hit features. I'll have to pay attention next time I ride.

You're probably doing it without thinking, and I'll bet $1 it's the same as your skate stance.

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« Reply #2406 on: September 13, 2021, 11:19:53 PM »
it's a thing. I tried my opposite foot forward today on a steep dirt DH and it felt awkward as hell.

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« Reply #2407 on: September 14, 2021, 09:20:05 AM »
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You can also get Carbon fiber rims, they don't get out of true.  I ride WEAREONE carbon rims on my mountain bike and they are solid.
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That's not true at all. Whoever told you that lied to you. :(

I guess if you want to get really crazy they might but at that point cracking would be more of an issue.  I imagine that the levels at which carbon rims bend and don't return is so far outside the realm of normal riders that it isn't really a factor.

Carbon doesn't deform like aluminum and I get that it is a trade off between compliance and stiffness but as long as they aren't super light XC rims they should be strong.  I went back and read 5 or 6 carbon rim reviews on Pinkbike and truing was never a problem.  Cracking or poor manufacturing can be be an issue though.

Saw this quote when I was looking around to see if what I said was wildly wrong:

Jason Marsh the mechanic of Greg Minaar 2012/2021 DH World Cup Champion about ENVE DH rims, he said that, ĒOnce you have built them, you donít need to do anything, the spokes remain tight and they donít need truing

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« Reply #2408 on: September 14, 2021, 09:31:15 AM »
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You can also get Carbon fiber rims, they don't get out of true.  I ride WEAREONE carbon rims on my mountain bike and they are solid.
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That's not true at all. Whoever told you that lied to you. :(
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I guess if you want to get really crazy they might but at that point cracking would be more of an issue.  I imagine that the levels at which carbon rims bend and don't return is so far outside the realm of normal riders that it isn't really a factor.

Carbon doesn't deform like aluminum and I get that it is a trade off between compliance and stiffness but as long as they aren't super light XC rims they should be strong.  I went back and read 5 or 6 carbon rim reviews on Pinkbike and truing was never a problem.  Cracking or poor manufacturing can be be an issue though.

Saw this quote when I was looking around to see if what I said was wildly wrong:

Jason Marsh the mechanic of Greg Minaar 2012/2021 DH World Cup Champion about ENVE DH rims, he said that, ĒOnce you have built them, you donít need to do anything, the spokes remain tight and they donít need truing

That's just not true though.  Any spoked wheel can come untrue, that's the very nature of cross tensioned spokes.  Carbon may be less likely to become untrue after a bit hit or spill, but losing tension in two spokes will make any rim go out of true or out of round.

The big advantage for carbon rims is weight and lateral strength when compared to aluminum, not a "set and forget" approach.

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« Reply #2409 on: September 14, 2021, 12:17:34 PM »
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I never knew there were stances in MTB, I'm not sure it matters to me which foot is in front when I hit features. I'll have to pay attention next time I ride.
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You're probably doing it without thinking, and I'll bet $1 it's the same as your skate stance.
I had to try this today, took my roadbike a bit off-road and low and behold, any technical terrain I found my foot position being regular just like my skating  ;D
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« Reply #2410 on: September 15, 2021, 12:46:11 PM »
whichever is the foot you keep in front when doing features (jumps, which foot pulls up on log overs etc) determines your stance- just like skating. i skate and ride mtb regular.

Skate and ride goofy

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« Reply #2411 on: September 15, 2021, 12:51:06 PM »
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You can also get Carbon fiber rims, they don't get out of true.  I ride WEAREONE carbon rims on my mountain bike and they are solid.
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That's not true at all. Whoever told you that lied to you. :(
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Jason Marsh the mechanic of Greg Minaar 2012/2021 DH World Cup Champion about ENVE DH rims, he said that, ĒOnce you have built them, you donít need to do anything, the spokes remain tight and they donít need truing

That's hilarious to read because, in my former life, I was a team and shop bike mechanic. I worked with an ENVE mechanic who said that, at the big DH competitions, they would swap out the wheels multiple times a day and would often rebuild the wheels (this was when ENVE riders were using Chris King hubs) to new rims every night.

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« Reply #2412 on: September 15, 2021, 12:57:04 PM »
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You can also get Carbon fiber rims, they don't get out of true.  I ride WEAREONE carbon rims on my mountain bike and they are solid.
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That's not true at all. Whoever told you that lied to you. :(
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I guess if you want to get really crazy they might but at that point cracking would be more of an issue.  I imagine that the levels at which carbon rims bend and don't return is so far outside the realm of normal riders that it isn't really a factor.

Carbon doesn't deform like aluminum and I get that it is a trade off between compliance and stiffness but as long as they aren't super light XC rims they should be strong.  I went back and read 5 or 6 carbon rim reviews on Pinkbike and truing was never a problem.  Cracking or poor manufacturing can be be an issue though.

Saw this quote when I was looking around to see if what I said was wildly wrong:

Jason Marsh the mechanic of Greg Minaar 2012/2021 DH World Cup Champion about ENVE DH rims, he said that, ĒOnce you have built them, you donít need to do anything, the spokes remain tight and they donít need truing
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That's just not true though.  Any spoked wheel can come untrue, that's the very nature of cross tensioned spokes.  Carbon may be less likely to become untrue after a bit hit or spill, but losing tension in two spokes will make any rim go out of true or out of round.

The big advantage for carbon rims is weight and lateral strength when compared to aluminum, not a "set and forget" approach.

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« Reply #2413 on: September 15, 2021, 01:57:24 PM »
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You can also get Carbon fiber rims, they don't get out of true.  I ride WEAREONE carbon rims on my mountain bike and they are solid.
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That's not true at all. Whoever told you that lied to you. :(
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I guess if you want to get really crazy they might but at that point cracking would be more of an issue.  I imagine that the levels at which carbon rims bend and don't return is so far outside the realm of normal riders that it isn't really a factor.

Carbon doesn't deform like aluminum and I get that it is a trade off between compliance and stiffness but as long as they aren't super light XC rims they should be strong.  I went back and read 5 or 6 carbon rim reviews on Pinkbike and truing was never a problem.  Cracking or poor manufacturing can be be an issue though.

Saw this quote when I was looking around to see if what I said was wildly wrong:

Jason Marsh the mechanic of Greg Minaar 2012/2021 DH World Cup Champion about ENVE DH rims, he said that, ĒOnce you have built them, you donít need to do anything, the spokes remain tight and they donít need truing
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That's just not true though.  Any spoked wheel can come untrue, that's the very nature of cross tensioned spokes.  Carbon may be less likely to become untrue after a bit hit or spill, but losing tension in two spokes will make any rim go out of true or out of round.

The big advantage for carbon rims is weight and lateral strength when compared to aluminum, not a "set and forget" approach.
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lmao the C&V crowd probably frowns on extruded aluminum, saying "these wheels don't PLANE like they did in the 60s"

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« Reply #2414 on: September 15, 2021, 03:00:57 PM »
i refuse to be slandered as a retro grouch

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« Reply #2415 on: September 15, 2021, 04:01:56 PM »
i refuse to be slandered as a retro grouch

Everyone at some point looks at something like the newest patent from SRAM for wireless hydraulic brake and reaches their breaking point. From there, you're counting down until you're a retrogrouch of one sort or another.

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« Reply #2416 on: September 15, 2021, 04:37:51 PM »
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You can also get Carbon fiber rims, they don't get out of true.  I ride WEAREONE carbon rims on my mountain bike and they are solid.
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That's not true at all. Whoever told you that lied to you. :(
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I guess if you want to get really crazy they might but at that point cracking would be more of an issue.  I imagine that the levels at which carbon rims bend and don't return is so far outside the realm of normal riders that it isn't really a factor.

Carbon doesn't deform like aluminum and I get that it is a trade off between compliance and stiffness but as long as they aren't super light XC rims they should be strong.  I went back and read 5 or 6 carbon rim reviews on Pinkbike and truing was never a problem.  Cracking or poor manufacturing can be be an issue though.

Saw this quote when I was looking around to see if what I said was wildly wrong:

Jason Marsh the mechanic of Greg Minaar 2012/2021 DH World Cup Champion about ENVE DH rims, he said that, ĒOnce you have built them, you donít need to do anything, the spokes remain tight and they donít need truing
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That's just not true though.  Any spoked wheel can come untrue, that's the very nature of cross tensioned spokes.  Carbon may be less likely to become untrue after a bit hit or spill, but losing tension in two spokes will make any rim go out of true or out of round.

The big advantage for carbon rims is weight and lateral strength when compared to aluminum, not a "set and forget" approach.
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lmao the C&V crowd probably frowns on extruded aluminum, saying "these wheels don't PLANE like they did in the 60s"

Haha, I worked with an older guy who swore single-pivot caliper brakes are the superior braking system, even compared to disk.
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« Reply #2417 on: September 15, 2021, 06:03:41 PM »
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You can also get Carbon fiber rims, they don't get out of true.  I ride WEAREONE carbon rims on my mountain bike and they are solid.
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That's not true at all. Whoever told you that lied to you. :(
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I guess if you want to get really crazy they might but at that point cracking would be more of an issue.  I imagine that the levels at which carbon rims bend and don't return is so far outside the realm of normal riders that it isn't really a factor.

Carbon doesn't deform like aluminum and I get that it is a trade off between compliance and stiffness but as long as they aren't super light XC rims they should be strong.  I went back and read 5 or 6 carbon rim reviews on Pinkbike and truing was never a problem.  Cracking or poor manufacturing can be be an issue though.

Saw this quote when I was looking around to see if what I said was wildly wrong:

Jason Marsh the mechanic of Greg Minaar 2012/2021 DH World Cup Champion about ENVE DH rims, he said that, ĒOnce you have built them, you donít need to do anything, the spokes remain tight and they donít need truing
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That's just not true though.  Any spoked wheel can come untrue, that's the very nature of cross tensioned spokes.  Carbon may be less likely to become untrue after a bit hit or spill, but losing tension in two spokes will make any rim go out of true or out of round.

The big advantage for carbon rims is weight and lateral strength when compared to aluminum, not a "set and forget" approach.
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lmao the C&V crowd probably frowns on extruded aluminum, saying "these wheels don't PLANE like they did in the 60s"
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Haha, I worked with an older guy who swore single-pivot caliper brakes are the superior braking system, even compared to disk.

Haha there's always something

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« Reply #2418 on: September 16, 2021, 06:26:02 AM »
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I never knew there were stances in MTB, I'm not sure it matters to me which foot is in front when I hit features. I'll have to pay attention next time I ride.
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You're probably doing it without thinking, and I'll bet $1 it's the same as your skate stance.

 Tried it out. Doesn't seem to matter for tech terrain but if I hit a jump or drop I'm left foot forward just like a skateboard. Pretty interesting

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« Reply #2419 on: September 16, 2021, 07:17:54 AM »


https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/contend-ar-3-2020

got one of these about a year ago and im already wanting to upgrade to a better bike.
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« Reply #2420 on: September 16, 2021, 02:04:06 PM »
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You can also get Carbon fiber rims, they don't get out of true.  I ride WEAREONE carbon rims on my mountain bike and they are solid.
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That's not true at all. Whoever told you that lied to you. :(
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I guess if you want to get really crazy they might but at that point cracking would be more of an issue.  I imagine that the levels at which carbon rims bend and don't return is so far outside the realm of normal riders that it isn't really a factor.

Carbon doesn't deform like aluminum and I get that it is a trade off between compliance and stiffness but as long as they aren't super light XC rims they should be strong.  I went back and read 5 or 6 carbon rim reviews on Pinkbike and truing was never a problem.  Cracking or poor manufacturing can be be an issue though.

Saw this quote when I was looking around to see if what I said was wildly wrong:

Jason Marsh the mechanic of Greg Minaar 2012/2021 DH World Cup Champion about ENVE DH rims, he said that, ĒOnce you have built them, you donít need to do anything, the spokes remain tight and they donít need truing
[close]

That's just not true though.  Any spoked wheel can come untrue, that's the very nature of cross tensioned spokes.  Carbon may be less likely to become untrue after a bit hit or spill, but losing tension in two spokes will make any rim go out of true or out of round.

The big advantage for carbon rims is weight and lateral strength when compared to aluminum, not a "set and forget" approach.
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lmao the C&V crowd probably frowns on extruded aluminum, saying "these wheels don't PLANE like they did in the 60s"
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Haha, I worked with an older guy who swore single-pivot caliper brakes are the superior braking system, even compared to disk.

I've still got the Campagnolo single-pivot rear brakes on my road bike. They only introduced a dual-pivot rear with the advent of 11 speed.

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« Reply #2421 on: September 17, 2021, 07:24:59 AM »


https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/contend-ar-3-2020

got one of these about a year ago and im already wanting to upgrade to a better bike.

My brother owns the same bike but with tiagra on it. It's a solid device, but he's also considering getting a more sophisticated bike. Do you already have an idea what you want to buy?

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« Reply #2422 on: September 17, 2021, 07:27:53 AM »
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https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/contend-ar-3-2020

got one of these about a year ago and im already wanting to upgrade to a better bike.
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My brother owns the same bike but with tiagra on it. It's a solid device, but he's also considering getting a more sophisticated bike. Do you already have an idea what you want to buy?

not really, i know i want shimano 105 group set and cant really afford carbon
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« Reply #2423 on: September 17, 2021, 07:40:01 AM »
the cannondale caad, specialized allez and trek emonda al are all really good aluminum options with 105, the jump from 105  to ultegra and dura ace is  minimal, but the difference  between tiagra  up to 105 is light years apart.

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« Reply #2424 on: September 17, 2021, 08:04:03 AM »
the cannondale caad, specialized allez and trek emonda al are all really good aluminum options with 105, the jump from 105  to ultegra and dura ace is  minimal, but the difference  between tiagra  up to 105 is light years apart.
good looks my g, i was originally looking at the caad and allez last year but couldnt find those ANYWHERE near me.

If I do upgrade it will probably be those 2. I also gotta get clipless pedals and actual biking shoes but that will come in time. It's too convenient now to just put on my skate shoes and go out for a ride.
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« Reply #2425 on: September 17, 2021, 09:45:53 AM »
My understanding is that most manufacturers are saying that the soonest when bikes will be readily available is MY 23, which means August/September of next year. I understand upgradeitus better than anyone, but Iíd just ride that shit until you can get something you want that doesnít required months of hunting, incredible good fortune, or else some sort of compromise where you end up riding a ď105Ē bike that consists of three actual 105 components.

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« Reply #2426 on: September 17, 2021, 04:49:32 PM »
me and my coworker are continuing to battle for the fastest ascent on a steep popular hill. it's less that 2 miles long and has a flat section in between two +10% ascents ... today I beat his time by 12 seconds and my HR for the 14:24 duration was 182 on average - I was dying.

still a long ways off from Roglič's KOM of 8 minutes on the segment, 20km/h average

Good job.  Keep suffering.
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« Reply #2427 on: September 18, 2021, 07:34:06 AM »
Got hit by a car a couple of months ago, they took off, left me with a broken SRAM shifter. Campy 11 speed Potenza shifters were cheap because of brexit, so I picked up them and a matching rd with a cheaper campy cassette. No matter what the campy rd rubbed the chain, so annoying.

So I got high one night and looked at the specs of pull ratios/cog pitch on here: http://blog.artscyclery.com/science-behind-the-magic/science-behind-the-magic-drivetrain-compatibility/

Ended up figuring out you can mate the Potenza shifters with an 11-speed Shimano rd, and a Shimano/SRAM cassette with two 10 speed spacers near the center of the cassette. It rides just as well as my bike with complete Ultegra.

Does anyone else mix and match? When I used to manage a shop people would come in with some jank setups. Prices have been crazy and people are desperate, kinda thinking stuff like this is going to be more commonplace. Pleasently surprized it works so well.
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« Reply #2428 on: September 18, 2021, 08:59:37 AM »
When I get high all I look at is the refrigerator.
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« Reply #2429 on: September 18, 2021, 09:49:18 AM »
Got hit by a car a couple of months ago, they took off, left me with a broken SRAM shifter. Campy 11 speed Potenza shifters were cheap because of brexit, so I picked up them and a matching rd with a cheaper campy cassette. No matter what the campy rd rubbed the chain, so annoying.

So I got high one night and looked at the specs of pull ratios/cog pitch on here: http://blog.artscyclery.com/science-behind-the-magic/science-behind-the-magic-drivetrain-compatibility/

Ended up figuring out you can mate the Potenza shifters with an 11-speed Shimano rd, and a Shimano/SRAM cassette with two 10 speed spacers near the center of the cassette. It rides just as well as my bike with complete Ultegra.

Does anyone else mix and match? When I used to manage a shop people would come in with some jank setups. Prices have been crazy and people are desperate, kinda thinking stuff like this is going to be more commonplace. Pleasently surprized it works so well.

my old crit bike had full athena 11 with 105 cranks and chainrings. had to do some mutant barrel adjuster work to get it all happy but i got a few podiums on it anyway
with that being said. cky enthusiast you seem like the worst dude with a very low attention span, i mean you never have watched a skate video in its entirley, why dont you just shut the fuck up if you never have to say anyt