JEDI MIND TRICKS - A HISTORY OF VIOLENCE - NOV 11

[Ben Throttle]

hip hop means self expression. real hip hop means self expression. that wack ass prodigy shit is all fake no self expression. vinny p is all real self expression. thats why he is boom bap. and aotp is better than WU any day because of lyrical skill. WU can flow but so can AOTP. but Wu doesnt have that lyrical skill. and that video on vinny paz is fucking stupid. it completely disregarded all of his skill. at the end that guy tryed to rap like vinny but didnt have one 5th of vinny's skill. the shit was ridiculous. if you love real hip hop but dont think vinny has skill or is holden down the golden age it means your close minded. open up that third eye buddy, turn off that TV

Listen buddy, boombap is dead. There will never be groups like Tha Youngstaz, KRS-ONE, Brand Nubian, Jeru etc ever again
There is absolutely nothing "boombap" about Jedi at all, there not toting 40's and going on subways with there heads nodding to a tape player

[MC Kenshi]

watch the video that came with the album. hes drinkin a 40 in the booth if you knew vinny you wouldnt have made that comment." i can thrive here but i chose to die/ on a fuckin steady diet of booze and la/" and i know its not the same thing as that boom bap. its an evolved format. its battle rap not that pussy shit, no chains and whips and bitches. hardcore shit, 94 shit. they are keeping the essence alive, dope production,lyrics and scratching.and i only heard a couple songs off the new album. and i wouldnt say its complete trash. the production is good, so is scratching, and vinnys lyrics. he picked it up from the last cd. but jus allah ruined that shit. i hate having to fast forward every one of his verses but vinny was on point " mind is the perfect regime you cant rap with me/nine with the infrared beam the blood splash on me/"

and him being fat, or homophobic or having a raspy voice doesent reduce the quality of music he makes.

[MC Kenshi]

 i just dont like jus' flow. and i really hate when he spits those lines that are only one or two words. you cant get a point across that way. "spiritual,invisible, immaterial, simple, insensible, imperial, indispensable, pinnacle, uneventful, unpreventable" im just really not into that. i love his old shit tho. he was great on VBD and some of his solo shit. and the voice im not a fan of. vinny said when jus was kicked out that he sounded like a bitch and jus completely gave in like a pussy and changed his voice to sound hard. i was a fan of his old voice. to tell the truth i havent analyzed a lot of his new shit yet tho. i have mostly been fast forwarding when i start to hear those 2 word bars. i still got to check them out.

yeah its kind of hard to argue with people who havent really heard what they are arguing about.
i prefer LOB over VBD just because of the less guest appearances. i prefer vinny on VBD rather than LOB but i just think the replay value of the whole song is more on LOB.

damn..you really like Ritual of battle over the torture papers? i liked torture papers more simply because no Jus and it had apathy. and i liked the new guys but some of their verses just cant top the older members. so it means less verses for them to make room for the new guys. but both cds i never have to skip a track.

and the OS release was WAYYY weaker than anything they ever created. their other three albums were a lot better. their second two you cant even compare. and i think their first one is just a little bit better. but still better than a lot of shit out there. i havent checked out that ill bill im probably gonna today.

[Nihilist]

STOP.

[Ben Throttle]

STOP.

It's the same person dude.... let them be

[MC Kenshi]

its not the same person. cant you see we had different views on them. we just both like them.

[sofaking]

Jus Allah must still secretly hate Vinnie because it really seems like he ruined this album on purpose with some of the shittiest rhymes I've heard in a long ass time.

[damian]

jedi mind tricks fucking sucks. suck my bean pie hating dick, jedi mind tricks. this coffee fucking sucks now, being associated with this.
fuck hearing about the plight of the fat man in today's society.

[MC Kenshi]

nice song. i never knew there was a video for it. and i still havent heard that cd enough times. probably only ran thru it twice. i gotta get some more plays on it.

and hell yeah thats what im saying. its all about evolution. as long as you still keep the roots. an about evolved state doesnt mean its not boom bap. or not representing the golden age.

[MC Kenshi]

i would be goin to shows but it seems like no good underground artists come to detroit

[sergioflorez]

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[damian]

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jedi mind tricks fucking sucks. suck my bean pie hating dick, jedi mind tricks. this coffee fucking sucks now, being associated with this.
fuck hearing about the plight of the fat man in today's society.

[close]

haha, oh yeah, what you pumpin'? that dirty south shit? you are a complete moron. turn off that TV you fucking robot. you dont know shit about real hip hop. you prolly never even heard of rakim.

i have rakim and geto boys original tapes you dunderhead.  "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly". i don't mind listening to my screwed 'n chopped music, i win by default due to your choice of listening to the plight of a fatshit puerto rican.

[sergioflorez]

dj screw (r.i.p.), big moe (r.i.p.), fat pat (r.i.p.), etc > jedi mind tricks, robertson

[Ben Throttle]

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jedi mind tricks fucking sucks. suck my bean pie hating dick, jedi mind tricks. this coffee fucking sucks now, being associated with this.
fuck hearing about the plight of the fat man in today's society.

[close]

haha, oh yeah, what you pumpin'? that dirty south shit? you are a complete moron. turn off that TV you fucking robot. you dont know shit about real hip hop. you prolly never even heard of rakim.

[close]

i have rakim and geto boys original tapes you dunderhead.  "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly" "prolly". i don't mind listening to my screwed 'n chopped music, i win by default due to your choice of listening to the plight of a fatshit puerto rican.

[close]

so basically this is your regular way of saying I was dead on about you being a fan of that dirty south garbage.

Just face it dude, it will never be as raw as this. Cosign on Project Pat being good

[damian]

yes. jedi, i hope you aren't sincere. face it jedi mind tricks, you fucking suck. go find your "i recently turned 14 and discovered underground rap, oh god jedi mind tricks is so smart, and a debutante" forum.




here's ted bridge danson, suck his dick, while my casio beats play.

[All Hail Wu Welsh]

ok i dont see how you can compare JMT to cage and aesop rock they are completely different... like 100% differnet nothing the same at all... wouldnt even put them in the same genre. aesop has 1 or 2 decent albums from early 2000's, but his new shit sux.

cage is a piece of shit i saw him live and wanted to spit on him. it was actually at the same show as aesop + mr. lif

and wu tang's new album is a sack of shit so fuck you aotp is still comin correct with bangers while wu is on some beatles covers. there was only 1 good song on the new album AND YOU KNOW IT. (track 2)

i will agree with lootpack being one of the dopest grroups ever but my only beef is they never do albums just spots on mixtapes... which is fine because that is what stones throw is all about and they aer always droppin fresh shit so it is a pretty sick and unique way to run the company.

either way they are not comparable, but wu tang and aotp are definitly comparable. aotp has only been in the game for 2 albums but they will retire before they put out garbage like wu tang has done. also there are a TON of extremely low-budget, terrible songs on immobilarity, lex diamond, bulletproof wallets, the last 3 ghost albums, all odb albums, every ugod album, the yin and the yang, even beneath the surface, 4:21 the day after, there are so many brutal songs...

wu tang is my second favorite group and BCC is my third but AOTP is better right now, wu tang is pretty done man i saw them live twice and they were pretty weak. i seen jedi mind three times and it was amazing every time not 1 crappy song on the set. u cant deny it man, wtc is fallin off. wu forever was classic, iron man, liquid swords, tical, only built,blackout, all that shit will live on forever, but lets face it, nothin like that is EVER going to come out of the wu camp ever again. it would be sick but unlikely at this point.

Movies for the Blind >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than anything jedi mind will ever produce

Its a shame that celph titled and r.a. the rugged man actually associate themselves with that fat piece of shit vinnie paz