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Skulldude- I don't care how off the grid you think you live. You are on the internet, you probably went to public school. You probably buy a lot of your farm supplies at stores. You apparently got healthcare from medicare (I'm guessing you would have otherwise would have gotten nothing?), even though medicare is for old people, you must be talking about medicaid. You are part of society. Society has brought us a lot of good based on the fact that people in societies live for more than themselves, and that's a good thing.
I do like the fact that you stand by the fact that conservative really just means you want to prevent new legislation, and respect you for actually understanding what it means, but I still think that your ideology is way off. I'm pretty sure if you looked it up, you would agree that HOOVER was our last truly conservative president, and what a failure that was.
As far as all those things you claim to have been proven time and again, I just listed off several times when running a government near wat you wanted has resulted in catastrophic collapse of society, can you tell me a time it did anything good for society? Ever? It hasn't really happened, ever.
And as far as healthcare goes, it is a societal issue, diseases spread, just like fire. We don't have a public fire department because some people are too lazy too put out a fire by themselves, we do it, because if problems like that go untreated and are allowed to spread, we all get fucked, and it costs us all a lot more.
You also brought up tuskegee, MK Ultra, and others. That was a result of a bloated military, and was not conducted on the general public, or for the purpose of the benefit of the public interest aside from the possible weaponization of LSD to "get" our "enemies". IF you want to scale back government spending on defense, I will agree with you. But how do you account for the fact that other countries cover more people, have longer lifespans, lower rates of infant mortality, and spend less on healthcare than we do? I mean, other countries are doing this, its not theoretical, and its working better than us. Leave your ideology for one second and stop rating the quality of this idea based on your extremist thoughts (this country is not becoming communist russia, I promise!), and start basing it off of what works the best. Results have shown that our system is growing increasingly worse, and those systems do a lot better, while spending a lower percentage of the GDP. How do you account for that and still say our system is better and shouldn't be changed? Oh, and their economies haven't collapsed either, so take that doomsday scenario out of the equation.
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