Carolino- classic Underachieving Brazilian Syndrome. Got a little bit and took his foot off when he should have put it down.
Flo- had a circle of friends who tried to 'manage' his career so they could come up on his coat- tails as photographers, TMs, filmers etc.
They blew it all and Flo is on his own again having missed that particular bus. There was a piece in the final issue of defunct French mag Chill which basically said as much. Badly advised by people looking out for themselves.