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Re: Hardcore Thread
« Reply #1080 on: April 29, 2021, 05:28:34 AM »
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I remember the times I saw them he was talking so much shit on stage in true Boston form and it was hilarious

Was he in mind eraser or xfilesx?
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both, he drums in mind eraser and vox for xfilesx.  he also sings in magic circle (with DFJ and other boston hardcore guys) and has since been the vocalist for pagan altar.  apparently they dug magic circle so much they asked him to join the band
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Magic circle and pagan altar are both so sick.
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so good.  not hardcore but whatever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jeqKG4CxR0&ab_channel=MagicCircle-Topic
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oh nice thx for the info! also fuck, this is so sick. I am actually surprised about how well his vocals fit this. he's got some pipes!
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if you are into that here is another hardcore adjacent band. it has jason tarpey from iron age singing, arthur from war hungry/cold world etc., blake ibanez of power trip amongst a few others

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God I love eternal champion so much

so good.  can't wait to see the new stuff played once things happen again
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« Reply #1081 on: April 30, 2021, 12:45:46 PM »
really bummed I was too young to experience Blacklisted in this era, been listening to this album on repeat lately

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEgy3gMkvVI&ab_channel=Deathwishinc

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« Reply #1082 on: April 30, 2021, 01:25:15 PM »
really bummed I was too young to experience Blacklisted in this era, been listening to this album on repeat lately

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEgy3gMkvVI&ab_channel=Deathwishinc

How old are you?
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« Reply #1083 on: April 30, 2021, 02:20:27 PM »
^^this was the era I saw Blacklisted a few times. I loved that album so much when it came out

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« Reply #1084 on: April 30, 2021, 03:18:28 PM »
^^this was the era I saw Blacklisted a few times. I loved that album so much when it came out
That album was super good, I think I got into them around 2007-2008. But, as usual I agree with Huell(sual), because that was our golden age dude.

From like 2004 until like 2015.

Over a decade of amazing bands putting out amazing records damn near every month and some of the best shows Iíve ever been too.

To keep it on topic Iíll add a video in which somewhere I this gaggle of folk there is a 15 year old me going ape shit at arguably the best fest I ever went too.

It goes OF at 4:12
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Re: Hardcore Thread
« Reply #1085 on: April 30, 2021, 05:16:20 PM »
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really bummed I was too young to experience Blacklisted in this era, been listening to this album on repeat lately

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEgy3gMkvVI&ab_channel=Deathwishinc
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21 lmao

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^^this was the era I saw Blacklisted a few times. I loved that album so much when it came out
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That album was super good, I think I got into them around 2007-2008. But, as usual I agree with Huell(sual), because that was our golden age dude.

From like 2004 until like 2015.

Over a decade of amazing bands putting out amazing records damn near every month and some of the best shows Iíve ever been too.

To keep it on topic Iíll add a video in which somewhere I this gaggle of folk there is a 15 year old me going ape shit at arguably the best fest I ever went too.

It goes OF at 4:12

I definitely gravitate towards that mid-00's/early 10's era of hardcore so you guys probably were at shows with bills I'd kill to see. Also when you find that video, would love to see it.

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« Reply #1086 on: April 30, 2021, 06:47:55 PM »
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really bummed I was too young to experience Blacklisted in this era, been listening to this album on repeat lately

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEgy3gMkvVI&ab_channel=Deathwishinc
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21 lmao

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^^this was the era I saw Blacklisted a few times. I loved that album so much when it came out
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That album was super good, I think I got into them around 2007-2008. But, as usual I agree with Huell(sual), because that was our golden age dude.

From like 2004 until like 2015.

Over a decade of amazing bands putting out amazing records damn near every month and some of the best shows Iíve ever been too.

To keep it on topic Iíll add a video in which somewhere I this gaggle of folk there is a 15 year old me going ape shit at arguably the best fest I ever went too.

It goes OF at 4:12
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I definitely gravitate towards that mid-00's/early 10's era of hardcore so you guys probably were at shows with bills I'd kill to see. Also when you find that video, would love to see it.

https://youtu.be/FdTpmtiOqjI Iím an idiot and forgot to post the link hahaha

Okay, word thatís what sort of what I figured, around that range. But also, every generation of has level feeling like they just barely missed the boat on their favorite music.

When I was younger all I thought about was how I wish I could have just been born like 5-6 years earlier then I could have seen all of my favorite bands. Despite the fact I saw comadre easily over thirty times, I was still bitter about not getting a chance to see Joshua fit for battle or jeromes dream. I distinctly remember complaining about that to my buddy Logan as we were driving to go see have heart and ceremony a week after seeing loma prieta and punch.

Point being thereís so much good shit that comes out, you can end up missing a lot of it by wishing for a way back machine, ya know?

Either way great record, and great taste my dude
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« Reply #1087 on: April 30, 2021, 09:06:09 PM »
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really bummed I was too young to experience Blacklisted in this era, been listening to this album on repeat lately

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEgy3gMkvVI&ab_channel=Deathwishinc
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21 lmao

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^^this was the era I saw Blacklisted a few times. I loved that album so much when it came out
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That album was super good, I think I got into them around 2007-2008. But, as usual I agree with Huell(sual), because that was our golden age dude.

From like 2004 until like 2015.

Over a decade of amazing bands putting out amazing records damn near every month and some of the best shows Iíve ever been too.

To keep it on topic Iíll add a video in which somewhere I this gaggle of folk there is a 15 year old me going ape shit at arguably the best fest I ever went too.

It goes OF at 4:12
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I definitely gravitate towards that mid-00's/early 10's era of hardcore so you guys probably were at shows with bills I'd kill to see. Also when you find that video, would love to see it.
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https://youtu.be/FdTpmtiOqjI Iím an idiot and forgot to post the link hahaha

Okay, word thatís what sort of what I figured, around that range. But also, every generation of has level feeling like they just barely missed the boat on their favorite music.

When I was younger all I thought about was how I wish I could have just been born like 5-6 years earlier then I could have seen all of my favorite bands. Despite the fact I saw comadre easily over thirty times, I was still bitter about not getting a chance to see Joshua fit for battle or jeromes dream. I distinctly remember complaining about that to my buddy Logan as we were driving to go see have heart and ceremony a week after seeing loma prieta and punch.

Point being thereís so much good shit that comes out, you can end up missing a lot of it by wishing for a way back machine, ya know?

Either way great record, and great taste my dude

Funnily enough, have watched this video before, I love Ceremony. Violence, Violence and Rohnert Park are some of my all time favorite albums.

And you're right! There's a lot to appreciate going on right now that I should be grateful I'm in the generation for. Being a midwest kid, Knocked Loose is massive for me and my friends. Definitely not everyone's cup of tea nor a a style of hardcore I typically listen to, there's a buzz around them and only living 90 minutes away from the scene that is booming in Louisville is something I am definitely grateful for.

And I think missing that era by a few years really makes me appreciate the opportunity to see a band from it. For instance, I have never seen Ceremony and I really look forward to the opportunity to see them. Or being able to see the Have Heart reunion at Sound And Fury was super important to me. I was like 16 the first time I saw the final show video on youtube and that lead me down the rabbit hole that is hardcore, and I've been hooked ever since. So having the opportunity to see a such an important band I just assumed I'd never see is something I am thankful for.

Not to romanticize hardcore or be overly sappy about it, I think ultimately you're right. It's okay to be bummed about what I missed but I shouldn't let that distract me from the sick shit happening now.

Apologies for the tangent but I appreciate the response, sounds like you and I could talk shop on hardcore all day. I'll be the cliche young kid now and toss in some bands happening right now I think are the shit. (also followed suit and included live set I went crazy for, pretty proud of my dive @ 4:25 not gonna lie)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnpl2xH5sAs&ab_channel=xBrutalYouth666x

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvN2eapKzak&t=1007s&ab_channel=197Media

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4YOhwwhWyU&ab_channel=Buggin-Topic

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Re: Hardcore Thread
« Reply #1088 on: May 01, 2021, 12:17:22 AM »
@Prinzy oh dude I get it for sure, and the Midwest has such an incredible tradition of amazing bands, articles of faith, naked raygun, crudos, mkultra, weekend nachos, spine, negative approach, usurp synapse, and about 1300 other fantastic bands!

But if youíre in southern Indiana/ky/Tennessee thereís so many bands to listen to/take influence from, and start making music inspired by it - hellnation, severed head of state, burned up bled dry, tragedy, his hero is gone, from ashes rise, man with gun lives here, deaththreat etc.

Dude, if I had a dollar for every hour I spent watching videos of old bands play Iíd be a rich man. I remember watching a video of pageninetynine playing by the fireplace in white, in a skatepark (to a crowd that consisted of members from love lost but not forgotten, jeromes dream, Breed/extinction and Joshua fit for battle) probably 150+ times.

You can get sappy about hardcore dude! Thatís what this whole fucking thread is about. I mean hardcore and skating saved my god damn life, I can talk about this shit 24 hours a day! If you ever wanna talk about it, find new bands or whatever, hit me up because I fucking love it.

Also, that slug demo fucking rips, and that was one helluva dive.

Iíll include some necessary older/my golden age shit

https://youtu.be/tdXIl1fngVA

https://youtu.be/WM343QegGCM

Donít let anyone tell you otherwise, AFI was one of the best hardcore bands of all time.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9DQkdxLFoQI2JBb17_kYazIZat87UePS
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Re: Hardcore Thread
« Reply #1089 on: May 01, 2021, 10:53:57 AM »
@Freelancevagrant I fucking love Spine, good rec!

I checked out that Dead End Path rec and was enjoying it but as soon as that Cold World feature hit, I was big sold. Shit fucking rips.

AFI is one of those bands I've been meaning to deep dive on. I think the idea of a hardcore band doing something 'bigger' as their career progresses is a super interesting phenomenon that has numerous examples of successes and failures. I know a few people a couple years older than me who love Sing The Sorrow and December Underground as those were pivotal "scene" albums for them. Might have to do some deep digging on their 90's work.

And I would love some more recommendations, seems like we have a lot of overlap in taste!

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« Reply #1090 on: May 01, 2021, 11:54:56 AM »
@Freelancevagrant I fucking love Spine, good rec!

I checked out that Dead End Path rec and was enjoying it but as soon as that Cold World feature hit, I was big sold. Shit fucking rips.

AFI is one of those bands I've been meaning to deep dive on. I think the idea of a hardcore band doing something 'bigger' as their career progresses is a super interesting phenomenon that has numerous examples of successes and failures. I know a few people a couple years older than me who love Sing The Sorrow and December Underground as those were pivotal "scene" albums for them. Might have to do some deep digging on their 90's work.

And I would love some more recommendations, seems like we have a lot of overlap in taste!

Dead end path were so fucking sick, that whole scene in Wilkes Barre was churning out so much good hardcore back in the day

Dude AFIís first four records are among the finest examples of Bay Area hardcore, Iíll post one track from each record to serve as a jump of point for you. My brother is 8 years older than me, and he went to the record release shows for very proud of ya, shut your mouth and open your eyes, and black sails in the sunset, and Iím still jealous about that shit. Full disclosure, up until like 2007 I thought there were two bands called AFI, one was the super sick hardcore band that stood for Asking For It/Anthems For Insubordinates, and another one that stood for A Fire Inside.

And itís funny that you say that because thatís kind of what Ceremony did, but at this points in both of their careers theyíve not been hardcore bands a lot longer than they were. Nothing will take away from how great violence violence and still nothing moves you are, but theyíre very different from rohnert park, zoo, the l shaped man etc. but god damn old ceremony was so sick. Iíve skated with Ross a few times before shows, he taught me how to do no complies and he has a nice wallie.

The AFI tracks are in chronological order of their release. My personal favorite record is the third, shut your mouth and open your eyes. Iíll also include one or two other bands I really enjoy from that era.

https://youtu.be/eX-n5F4YOxo
https://youtu.be/k_PM1igaiYk
https://youtu.be/Qu4xF2_Z1uo
https://youtu.be/eflYNtkJddo

Wrong Answer is super sick and their entire discography is flawless, end to end.
https://youtu.be/nWXP3SgeqFI

Down To Nothing was so fucking good, when I was stationed in VA I got to see them so many fucking times, and they were great.
https://youtu.be/TeAjQMzuPew
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Re: Hardcore Thread
« Reply #1091 on: May 01, 2021, 12:14:01 PM »
I'm gonna have to get back to you once I listen to these other tracks, but just had to say first that Unbreakable is one of my favorite hardcore albums. I know it gets shit on by a lot of people, but I even love Life On The James. Down To Nothing is an all time fav of mine, also on the list of a bands I haven't seen yet.

(also have watched this video countless times)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaSWS_lblBk&ab_channel=BabyGorillaTV

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« Reply #1092 on: May 02, 2021, 03:14:43 PM »
https://youtu.be/P3GxfdsjlCA

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« Reply #1093 on: May 02, 2021, 08:42:43 PM »
This blew my little peanut of a mind when i started University

https://youtu.be/JAD8VxVszKE
the ghandi get a lot of love in punk/ HC circles which is deserved of course, but ISPY are very very underrated imho!!! Surprised they donít get a lot more love from HC fans...

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« Reply #1094 on: May 02, 2021, 08:45:33 PM »
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This blew my little peanut of a mind when i started University

https://youtu.be/JAD8VxVszKE
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the ghandi get a lot of love in punk/ HC circles which is deserved of course, but ISPY are very very underrated imho!!! Surprised they donít get a lot more love from HC fans...

It wasn't until fairly recently that I learned "Fuck the Border" was originally an I-Spy song.

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« Reply #1095 on: May 02, 2021, 09:10:12 PM »
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This blew my little peanut of a mind when i started University

https://youtu.be/JAD8VxVszKE
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the ghandi get a lot of love in punk/ HC circles which is deserved of course, but ISPY are very very underrated imho!!! Surprised they donít get a lot more love from HC fans...
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It wasn't until fairly recently that I learned "Fuck the Border" was originally an I-Spy song.
you've been listening to that podcast too huh?
they debuted it (AFAIK) that track in Australia during their 97 tour (or maybe they were already playing it at their Canadian shoes?) just after John had left the band and the chorus was more sped up chants of fuck the border, fuck the border, fuck the border! as opposed to the long drawn-out Fuuuuuuuck The Borderrrrrrr!

going back to ISPY, I think the split with propagandhi is a tad more "melodic" but the revenge of the little shits 10" is so fucking heavy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXgGqYpZzVg
(first 12 tracks on this)
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« Reply #1096 on: May 02, 2021, 10:29:28 PM »
I listened to the two with Chris Hannah, might have been a few more I listened to as well.  I live seven hours south of Winnipeg in South Dakota, so listening to them talk about touring through here was extremely interesting to me.

Also, is it just me, or does Potemkin City Limits sound like radio buttrock that's actually really good?

I've never listened to that i-spy split, but im going to give it a spin.

edit: just checked the turned out a punk podcast, looks like Todd Kowalski has been on it since I last checked.
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« Reply #1097 on: May 03, 2021, 05:35:56 AM »
I'm gonna have to get back to you once I listen to these other tracks, but just had to say first that Unbreakable is one of my favorite hardcore albums. I know it gets shit on by a lot of people, but I even love Life On The James. Down To Nothing is an all time fav of mine, also on the list of a bands I haven't seen yet.

(also have watched this video countless times)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaSWS_lblBk&ab_channel=BabyGorillaTV

DTN was always so much fun.  the dude playing guitar on the let side of the stage (from filmers view) is of my homie.  he's the one that put me onto the pagan altar and magic circle type stuff
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« Reply #1098 on: May 03, 2021, 06:19:53 AM »
 
I listened to the two with Chris Hannah, might have been a few more I listened to as well.  I live seven hours south of Winnipeg in South Dakota, so listening to them talk about touring through here was extremely interesting to me.

Also, is it just me, or does Potemkin City Limits sound like radio buttrock that's actually really good?

I've never listened to that i-spy split, but im going to give it a spin.

edit: just checked the turned out a punk podcast, looks like Todd Kowalski has been on it since I last checked.
dude, I love almost any band that came out of Winnipeg in the 90s!! Painted thin, swallowing shit, ISPY, the weakerthans, crazy list of epic bands

Potemkin has two levels, you can listen to it on a surface level and it might be one of their most accessible/ listener friendly albums, but if you sit down with some good headphones and really let it wash over you, itís very intricate and super heavy, especially since they were still a 3 piece!  Lyrical themes are dark too! Bringer of greater things and cut into the earth usher in the new era of super personal and intense (but somewhat non-hardcore) Todd songs too; when the album first came out I kind of dismissed it but you can go down a rabbit hole with it.

Anyway, letís save all my crackpot theories for the actual propgandhi thread (that Iíve been vowing to make for some time)...

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« Reply #1099 on: May 03, 2021, 11:36:46 AM »
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really bummed I was too young to experience Blacklisted in this era, been listening to this album on repeat lately

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEgy3gMkvVI&ab_channel=Deathwishinc
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21 lmao

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^^this was the era I saw Blacklisted a few times. I loved that album so much when it came out
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That album was super good, I think I got into them around 2007-2008. But, as usual I agree with Huell(sual), because that was our golden age dude.

From like 2004 until like 2015.

Over a decade of amazing bands putting out amazing records damn near every month and some of the best shows Iíve ever been too.

To keep it on topic Iíll add a video in which somewhere I this gaggle of folk there is a 15 year old me going ape shit at arguably the best fest I ever went too.

It goes OF at 4:12
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I definitely gravitate towards that mid-00's/early 10's era of hardcore so you guys probably were at shows with bills I'd kill to see. Also when you find that video, would love to see it.
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https://youtu.be/FdTpmtiOqjI Iím an idiot and forgot to post the link hahaha

Okay, word thatís what sort of what I figured, around that range. But also, every generation of has level feeling like they just barely missed the boat on their favorite music.

When I was younger all I thought about was how I wish I could have just been born like 5-6 years earlier then I could have seen all of my favorite bands. Despite the fact I saw comadre easily over thirty times, I was still bitter about not getting a chance to see Joshua fit for battle or jeromes dream. I distinctly remember complaining about that to my buddy Logan as we were driving to go see have heart and ceremony a week after seeing loma prieta and punch.

Point being thereís so much good shit that comes out, you can end up missing a lot of it by wishing for a way back machine, ya know?

Either way great record, and great taste my dude
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Funnily enough, have watched this video before, I love Ceremony. Violence, Violence and Rohnert Park are some of my all time favorite albums.

And you're right! There's a lot to appreciate going on right now that I should be grateful I'm in the generation for. Being a midwest kid, Knocked Loose is massive for me and my friends. Definitely not everyone's cup of tea nor a a style of hardcore I typically listen to, there's a buzz around them and only living 90 minutes away from the scene that is booming in Louisville is something I am definitely grateful for.

And I think missing that era by a few years really makes me appreciate the opportunity to see a band from it. For instance, I have never seen Ceremony and I really look forward to the opportunity to see them. Or being able to see the Have Heart reunion at Sound And Fury was super important to me. I was like 16 the first time I saw the final show video on youtube and that lead me down the rabbit hole that is hardcore, and I've been hooked ever since. So having the opportunity to see a such an important band I just assumed I'd never see is something I am thankful for.

Not to romanticize hardcore or be overly sappy about it, I think ultimately you're right. It's okay to be bummed about what I missed but I shouldn't let that distract me from the sick shit happening now.

Apologies for the tangent but I appreciate the response, sounds like you and I could talk shop on hardcore all day. I'll be the cliche young kid now and toss in some bands happening right now I think are the shit. (also followed suit and included live set I went crazy for, pretty proud of my dive @ 4:25 not gonna lie)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnpl2xH5sAs&ab_channel=xBrutalYouth666x

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvN2eapKzak&t=1007s&ab_channel=197Media

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4YOhwwhWyU&ab_channel=Buggin-Topic

just chiming in to say I love this discussion lol

I think freelance made a great point, every hardcore/punk kid does feel like they 'missed' something amazing by a few years but there is really amazing stuff going on right at the time they're getting into the scene and going to shows a lot(like I always wished I was at that ceremony show freelance posted but in reality I saw them a bunch in the years following and it was great but that looked like a 'better' show lol). 

@Prinzy awesome to hear how you got into hardcore and dove deeper into it haha. Checked out those bands you posted, I would love to see a band cover that beastie boys song at a show haha

fuck, Sound and Fury was so fun. I wish that still happened up in Santa Barbara. I have been stupid and never went to one of the more recent years that happened in LA

random nostalgia but this year was so epic and goddammit do I still love The Suicide File. They just looked like that had fun, came out wearing Hawaiian shirts and through out a bunch of blow up flamingos in the crowd lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmj2EFRepO4

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Re: Hardcore Thread
« Reply #1100 on: May 04, 2021, 07:23:08 AM »
Oh MAN this delivers
 https://youtu.be/iE65vFtPVLc