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Re: george bush billboard says: miss me yet?
« Reply #90 on: February 12, 2010, 08:23:03 PM »
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Decentralized government will be less oppressive and more responsive to your needs. The larger government gets, the less you as an individual matter. Fuck Big Brother.
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I see that you've read 1984. I can assure you that I've taken tenth grade English as well.
What's salient to me about this entire "small government = good, large government = communism" movement is how similar to Communism it is.  Both are essentially political ideologies that promise to wrestle political power away from an elite few and redistribute it to the misrepresented masses, resulting in utopia. I'm skeptical of any system that offers such a populist solution.
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I've read 1984, but Austrian Economics is what i'm more interested in.

http://mises.org/
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Austria's current romance with conservative policies and privatization are unpopular and economically short-sighted, so I don't know what you're getting at here.

I mean, it's sweet that Hans Gruber has an institute that the Wall Street Journal is aware of but in terms of contributing to serious debate about the merit of political systems, this Mises Institute is neither objective nor relevant.
I'm talking about Austrian Economics as a school of thought which revolves around human actions rather than number crunching for economic predictions; i'm not referring the actual country's economic polices. The fact that you deem it irrelevant is partially why we're getting fucked right now. Keynes isn't our savior.

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Re: george bush billboard says: miss me yet?
« Reply #91 on: February 12, 2010, 10:43:24 PM »
Decentralized government will be less oppressive and more responsive to your needs. The larger government gets, the less you as an individual matter. Fuck Big Brother.

without a doubt, which is why the civil war was fought. a centralized government in a nation as large as the US has been a grand experiment, one that is failing miserably. the focus only benefits certain realms of the country, i.e. the north east and texas, leaving everywhere else in the dust.


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« Reply #92 on: February 12, 2010, 11:09:14 PM »
We are talking about solutions. What are you people talking about?
Entitled babies.

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Re: george bush billboard says: miss me yet?
« Reply #93 on: February 13, 2010, 04:03:00 PM »
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Stablity will come from a free economy. Which will create real wealth(weath built upon the resources of the land) not DEBT.
It's been proven over and over. Less gov means we make and have more money.
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are you fucking kidding me?
less govt. means we make and have more money?

okay, so if your wish was commanded and all government ceased to exist this is the most likely scenario:
the current giant industries would buy up every single small company because there is no force to stop them from doing so. eventually a company would buyout every single other company and then we got super company on our hands. everyone employed by this new super company would get a pay decrease because there is no force to stop them (which is why fordism was created to stop this problem and you should know what happened when this system collapsed). with control of the market and every product produced or imported in, super company could form their own educational system which would only teach people how to eat, breath, consume, consume, and consume. super company makes all the money and it is distributed mostly to the top dogs while the working class gets a smaller and smaller share of the wealth. the working class doesn't seem to mind though because the new educational system has made them really unintelligent and all they care about is getting the newest electronic gizmo that super company makes. this could go on for eternity, well, i guess until all resources are exhausted   

I don't know about you, but that is actually the present world I'm living in (and I'm from Portugal, where we have a socialist government, and 5 more parties with parlament representation):

- Big companies crash the smallest ones, with a little help from the government embodied by a discriminatory fiscal system;
- Big companies control, therefore,  the wages to pay, and the market prices;
- Big companies control broadcoasting, therefore education (stupidifying us and manipulating us as pleased)
- Big companies even control justice, major part of the cases, becoming untouchable.

We don't need to stop this from happening, it is happening already.
What we need is to reverse the course, and hopefully create a sustainable system before this one collapses. Or then again, let it burn, what do I care!

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Re: george bush billboard says: miss me yet?
« Reply #94 on: February 14, 2010, 11:11:41 AM »
it's hard to kill a beast with a two inch sword. well, i guess the pen is mightier then the sword... oh wait, bic got bought out by halliburton 
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