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Time for new shoes. I'm looking for shoes that are grippy, light, and most importantly have heel and foot impact padding. I'm not 15 anymore, but I still skate a lot, so I need something that's functional instead of just marketing.

Is there anything newer/better than the original eS Kostons or the Vans XLT Rowley's? In terms of comfort, these are (for me) the two best shoes ever. In terms of being grippy, the XLT's are pretty terrible. Not sure if this is cause they're old (they're from 99, found them and started riding them again), or cause of the shoes themselves.

Feeling the board is nice, landing on concrete for two hours is not very fun.

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Gel inserts for Vans = best of both worlds.
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i started skating cupsole mids exclusively after hurting my feet too much on vulcs. it's made a big difference though it took a couple of sessions to be comfortable with losing some of the board feel. but i'm thankful because my feet aren't jacked after a few missed tricks anymore.

pretty much any brand will work, really. there's lots of good padded shoes. really for me it's all about having the mid - protects my ankles and i just feel more confident having my foot wrapped up in some padding. it's probably like 80% mental.

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Gel inserts for Vans = best of both worlds.

I tried using generic inserts on regular half cabs before, but they would slip forward and bunch up at the front. They weren't gels though, as long as gels don't slip I would like to give that a try.

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Gels don't slip.
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Gel inserts for Vans = best of both worlds.

Haha yeah. I've been doing that in the XLT's for a few months now. I've tried the inserts in some eS', and landing without the board still feels like landing barefoot. They don't slip, I just put them underneath the normal insole.

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Halfcab pros have a decent amount of padding throughout the shoe, and also have a removable insole, that might work for you, but everyone has a different idea of the right amount of padding so I don't know. Also, I think if you found a ten year old skate shoe, the rubber on the outsole would definitely have lost a lot of its initial grip.

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Halfcab pros have a decent amount of padding throughout the shoe, and also have a removable insole, that might work for you, but everyone has a different idea of the right amount of padding so I don't know. Also, I think if you found a ten year old skate shoe, the rubber on the outsole would definitely have lost a lot of its initial grip.

Yeah, you're probably correct.

From also running a lot, there are basically different shoe types depending on how high your arches are, and if your feet roll inwards or outwards. (http://www.runnersworld.com/cda/shoefinder_description/1,,s6-240-325-329-0-0-0-0-0,00.html) I pretty much fall into the "neutral" or "high arches" category for running shoes. It would probably be better if skate shoes were labeled for "motion control" (lower arches/flat feet), "support" (most people), or "cushioned / neutral" (higher arches). What works for some people just won't work for others.

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If you can find a pair of c1rca 404's, you'll never want another shoe again.

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Have Accels right now.  Would recommend.  Basic non Vansy skate shoe, cheap, pretty comfy.  eS also has a vulc version of the OG Koston out.  I wanted to try em but the shop didnt have any in my size.
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Re: Skate shoes with padding and stuff... like the original Koston or XLT.
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2010, 09:08:36 PM »

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Re: Skate shoes with padding and stuff... like the original Koston or XLT.
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2010, 09:25:34 PM »
I'd say my ideal skate shoe would be like these (http://www.mizunousa.com/equipment.nsf/1/10run1-ftwm/410367?opendocument&div=running&cat=10run1-ftwm), but grippier sides and an upper that wouldn't get torn apart in ten seconds. Super light, foam padding... all it needs are vulcanized sidewalls.

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Re: Skate shoes with padding and stuff... like the original Koston or XLT.
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2010, 10:04:51 PM »
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Re: Skate shoes with padding and stuff... like the original Koston or XLT.
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2010, 10:23:59 PM »
i back the emerica reynolds cruisers pretty hard. way more padding than youd expect by looking at them. the insole is filled with all this hi tech robot status stuff.

also hate to say it . . . theyre expensive and nike sucks but nike sb dunks are probably the most comfortable shoe out.

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Re: Skate shoes with padding and stuff... like the original Koston or XLT.
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2010, 01:44:16 AM »
^

The canvas on those rips really fast. I'm not sure about the suede models though.

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Re: Skate shoes with padding and stuff... like the original Koston or XLT.
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2010, 06:20:34 AM »
dunno if this is what you're talking about but when i skate stairs and shit i take this pad thing i ripped out of some old lakais and put them under my soles. helps with heel bruises.

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Re: Skate shoes with padding and stuff... like the original Koston or XLT.
« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2010, 06:27:55 AM »
Yeah my feet started hurting with the thin shoes too. I've been skating Accels a lot recently and I'm really happy with them. I don't know about that running shoe though.

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Re: Skate shoes with padding and stuff... like the original Koston or XLT.
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2010, 07:44:20 AM »
Axion Mandela's...so comfortable its just not right. I seriously back those shoes now.
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Re: Skate shoes with padding and stuff... like the original Koston or XLT.
« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2010, 07:48:27 AM »
Nike Omars. Swear by 'em. Super grippy, enough padding without feeling ghost sole, and they're holding up decently to some wear.  I went from skating Janoski's for a year to the Omars.  Made big difference on those first couple of flip tricks that seem to always go primo. Best cup sole I've skated in a long time.

Get a time machine and get some 'es Creagers too.  That dude made a fucking awesome shoe.

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Re: Skate shoes with padding and stuff... like the original Koston or XLT.
« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2010, 08:00:56 AM »
IPATH GRASSHOPPERS FTW

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Re: Skate shoes with padding and stuff... like the original Koston or XLT.
« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2010, 08:14:32 AM »
IPATH GRASSHOPPERS FTW

Had a pair of those back in the day and didn't like how they fit. Heard the Reed's are comfy, but I could never bring myself to buy another pair of IPaths again.
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Re: Skate shoes with padding and stuff... like the original Koston or XLT.
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Re: Skate shoes with padding and stuff... like the original Koston or XLT.
« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2010, 08:23:46 AM »
yeah you prolly got little girl feet, they are built for big rig nigs and big canadians

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Re: Skate shoes with padding and stuff... like the original Koston or XLT.
« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2010, 08:25:53 AM »
yeah you prolly got little girl feet, they are built for big rig nigs and big canadians

You might be right. But regardless, Axion Mandela's all day.
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Re: Skate shoes with padding and stuff... like the original Koston or XLT.
« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2010, 11:54:15 AM »
thats a sick name "Mandela" like Nelson Mandela? that nigga is my shit right there he is like my #2 go to guy, #1 is malcolm

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Re: Skate shoes with padding and stuff... like the original Koston or XLT.
« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2010, 11:54:29 AM »
#3 is probably steve william

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Re: Skate shoes with padding and stuff... like the original Koston or XLT.
« Reply #26 on: April 21, 2010, 12:10:48 PM »
So let me get this straight:

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Re: Skate shoes with padding and stuff... like the original Koston or XLT.
« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2010, 01:54:00 PM »
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Adidas yet. Campus vulcs and Gazelles both seem to have a good combo of board feel/support. Not the longest lasting shoes, but not the worst for it either.

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Re: Skate shoes with padding and stuff... like the original Koston or XLT.
« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2010, 03:56:33 PM »
still running my TNT2 insoles from 3 years ago, fattest ass heel protection ever, I once skated a pair of crocs with them bitches in there
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Re: Skate shoes with padding and stuff... like the original Koston or XLT.
« Reply #29 on: April 21, 2010, 10:27:28 PM »
^

The canvas on those rips really fast. I'm not sure about the suede models though.
the canvas ones are fine. thats all i skate. i just sand my grip down. you dont need grippy grip when you have grippy shoes. i dont do a lot of flip tricks and these last me quite a while. also theres a second layer of stuff under the canvas that doesnt rip fast.