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Re: Post UPCOMING/RECENT shoe releases thread
« Reply #41250 on: March 04, 2021, 04:45:27 PM »
I'm surprised it took this long for anyone to post pictures.

I got the Skate Classic Authentics today. Here are the changes aside from the checkerboard tag everyone wants to bitch about.

Here is the box.



Here are the shoes. It came with a set of cream laces as well.



Here's the close up of the foxing tape. It's glossy, but not too noticeable from a distance. If you ever had a pair of the Converse 70s, it's the same thing.



Here is the heel tab.



The heelcup is super sturdy. It feels like a sturdy piece of plastic instead of cardboard. Takes a bit of effort to push down and compress it. When I put the shoes on, the heeltab didn't dig into my heel and didn't cause discomfort or bleeding.





The tongue has two elastic straps.



Here's the underside of the tongue.



Here's the view of the toebox. It seems slimmer than usual, but I can't confirm this as I don't have another pair of Authentics. The toebox has about 1/2" of room before the suede starts.





Let's look at the insole. It's a different version of the Popcush that released in 2020. Comparing it to insoles from my Rowans. These insoles have only been walked around in.



Turning over the insoles, they have different designs. The Skate Classic insole (bottom) feels more sturdy than hard than the Rowan Popcush (top). The Skate Classic insole also feels smooth, almost like a soft plastic.





The Skate Classic insole is lower than the Rowan Popcush.



Bending these insoles together shows that the Skate Classic insole is much firm, while the Rowan Popcush is much easier to bend.



The fit is TTS. The shoe also feels more secure to my feet, compared to my crappy Ultracush-era Eras. I don't know how these skate (yet) as I mainly got these for a daily shoe.

tldr there's way more changes aside from the checkerboard tag you baby

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Re: Post UPCOMING/RECENT shoe releases thread
« Reply #41251 on: March 04, 2021, 04:53:42 PM »
I'm surprised it took this long for anyone to post pictures.

I got the Skate Classic Authentics today. Here are the changes aside from the checkerboard tag everyone wants to bitch about.

Here is the box.



Here are the shoes. It came with a set of cream laces as well.



Here's the close up of the foxing tape. It's glossy, but not too noticeable from a distance. If you ever had a pair of the Converse 70s, it's the same thing.



Here is the heel tab.



The heelcup is super sturdy. It feels like a sturdy piece of plastic instead of cardboard. Takes a bit of effort to push down and compress it. When I put the shoes on, the heeltab didn't dig into my heel and didn't cause discomfort or bleeding.





The tongue has two elastic straps.



Here's the underside of the tongue.



Here's the view of the toebox. It seems slimmer than usual, but I can't confirm this as I don't have another pair of Authentics. The toebox has about 1/2" of room before the suede starts.





Let's look at the insole. It's a different version of the Popcush that released in 2020. Comparing it to insoles from my Rowans. These insoles have only been walked around in.



Turning over the insoles, they have different designs. The Skate Classic insole (bottom) feels more sturdy than hard than the Rowan Popcush (top). The Skate Classic insole also feels smooth, almost like a soft plastic.





The Skate Classic insole is lower than the Rowan Popcush.



Bending these insoles together shows that the Skate Classic insole is much firm, while the Rowan Popcush is much easier to bend.



The fit is TTS. The shoe also feels more secure to my feet, compared to my crappy Ultracush-era Eras. I don't know how these skate (yet) as I mainly got these for a daily shoe.

tldr there's way more changes aside from the checkerboard tag you baby

oof. hard blows. you got me 🥺 the classic shit works just fine 🥰 thanks for wasting your time posting all those pictures for me

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Re: Post UPCOMING/RECENT shoe releases thread
« Reply #41252 on: March 04, 2021, 04:56:24 PM »
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I'm surprised it took this long for anyone to post pictures.

I got the Skate Classic Authentics today. Here are the changes aside from the checkerboard tag everyone wants to bitch about.

Here is the box.



Here are the shoes. It came with a set of cream laces as well.



Here's the close up of the foxing tape. It's glossy, but not too noticeable from a distance. If you ever had a pair of the Converse 70s, it's the same thing.



Here is the heel tab.



The heelcup is super sturdy. It feels like a sturdy piece of plastic instead of cardboard. Takes a bit of effort to push down and compress it. When I put the shoes on, the heeltab didn't dig into my heel and didn't cause discomfort or bleeding.





The tongue has two elastic straps.



Here's the underside of the tongue.



Here's the view of the toebox. It seems slimmer than usual, but I can't confirm this as I don't have another pair of Authentics. The toebox has about 1/2" of room before the suede starts.





Let's look at the insole. It's a different version of the Popcush that released in 2020. Comparing it to insoles from my Rowans. These insoles have only been walked around in.



Turning over the insoles, they have different designs. The Skate Classic insole (bottom) feels more sturdy than hard than the Rowan Popcush (top). The Skate Classic insole also feels smooth, almost like a soft plastic.





The Skate Classic insole is lower than the Rowan Popcush.



Bending these insoles together shows that the Skate Classic insole is much firm, while the Rowan Popcush is much easier to bend.



The fit is TTS. The shoe also feels more secure to my feet, compared to my crappy Ultracush-era Eras. I don't know how these skate (yet) as I mainly got these for a daily shoe.

tldr there's way more changes aside from the checkerboard tag you baby
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oof. hard blows. you got me 🥺 the classic shit works just fine 🥰 thanks for wasting your time posting all those pictures for me

Lol wasn't a dig specifically at you. Just mainly at everyone in here since all the other stuff is being overshadowed by the tag.

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Re: Post UPCOMING/RECENT shoe releases thread
« Reply #41253 on: March 04, 2021, 05:52:30 PM »
@yourbreakfsat good stuff comparing the insoles. I knew they were different and less thick but interesting about the flex.

They were trying to stiffen the shoe in general to mirror the normal classics mainline which maybe came from the insole as well.

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Re: Post UPCOMING/RECENT shoe releases thread
« Reply #41254 on: March 04, 2021, 06:04:24 PM »
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What are the different uses that justify making a Half-Cab pro and a Half-Cab classic that are so drastically different that people consistently avoid or complain about one of the other?
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Just to make clear, they are replacing and not releasing these along the pros. So the "different uses" point won't matter since they will be phasing out the pro line.
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So they are doing the Repeal and Replace that Trump claimed but never made good on??

Also, to make clear, Vans does indeed have at least one other version of the Half Cab, the Classic. Which is like their casual one not optimized for modern skateboarding. I don't see what's bad about having both.

Oyolar, are you also pissed at Nike then? In recent years Nike has had like 6+ different builds of things like the Blazer Low... Nike Sportswear Blazer Low (direct parallel to Vans Classic), Nike Blazer Low '77 (truest to 1970's build, like Vans Vault), Nike SB Zoom Blazer Low (shape is TOTALLY different, panels are altered, but made better for skating), Nike SB GT Blazer, and now even the Nike SB GT Blazer Low Pro, on top of some fashion-specific alterations like Virgil's versions and stuff. Long story short, brands iterate and reiterate on their franchise models.

I mean, yeah. I also think that's stupid. But notice how only three of those Blazers are SBs? Those are the only ones I actually give a shit thinking about so the fact that Nike has a bunch of other ones for different verticals (tennis, basketball, fashion, etc.) doesn't mean anything to me.

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Re: Post UPCOMING/RECENT shoe releases thread
« Reply #41255 on: March 04, 2021, 06:22:25 PM »
checked flag goes with the shiny armor all aesthetic of the sole.  its nice to see vans trying to do something about the pro classics just turning into dirty floppy garbage whose only redeeming quality is boardfeel after a week or two.  but an aqua sock has good boardfeel.

i loved vans pro classics as a quick healing youth but as a mature skater who has recovered from damage and thinks about longevity and gear that's going to keep me healthy, i stay away.

wafflecup is a saving grace.  and popcush being a little squishier so your not teeter tottering on some high heel shit is also step.

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Re: Post UPCOMING/RECENT shoe releases thread
« Reply #41256 on: March 04, 2021, 07:10:08 PM »
All the new ones don't seem to be anywhere near as expensive as the first ones released, so they might have had second thoughts on trying to hike them up that much, or someone realised they would sell many more at more reasonable prices.


Any of you happy campers seen this too?

Newly added stronger piece of something from the heel to the arch looks good for stopping primo pain or other injuries.





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Re: Post UPCOMING/RECENT shoe releases thread
« Reply #41257 on: March 04, 2021, 07:15:14 PM »
All the new ones don't seem to be anywhere near as expensive as the first ones released, so they might have had second thoughts on trying to hike them up that much, or someone realised they would sell many more at more reasonable prices.


Any of you happy campers seen this too?

Newly added stronger piece of something from the heel to the arch looks good for stopping primo pain or other injuries.




Vans Authentics are paying 50-60$ for guaranteed heel blisters
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Re: Post UPCOMING/RECENT shoe releases thread
« Reply #41258 on: March 04, 2021, 07:33:06 PM »
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All the new ones don't seem to be anywhere near as expensive as the first ones released, so they might have had second thoughts on trying to hike them up that much, or someone realised they would sell many more at more reasonable prices.


Any of you happy campers seen this too?

Newly added stronger piece of something from the heel to the arch looks good for stopping primo pain or other injuries.



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Vans Authentics are paying 50-60$ for guaranteed heel blisters

It is in all the new line of shoes, the added stonger heel piece under the footbed in the sole of the shoe.

Apparently you can just see it in the right light.
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Re: Post UPCOMING/RECENT shoe releases thread
« Reply #41259 on: March 04, 2021, 08:17:19 PM »
Would like Wafflecup versions of the the Authentics, Eras, even slip ons. Hated pop cush

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Re: Post UPCOMING/RECENT shoe releases thread
« Reply #41260 on: March 05, 2021, 04:00:48 AM »
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Just to make clear, they are replacing and not releasing these along the pros.
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Right - the Skate line replaces the Pro line. Here's a pic from Lotties to compare:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMATmqIjviZ/
compared to the now old "Pros"

Damn, that checkered label really is atrocious.

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Re: Post UPCOMING/RECENT shoe releases thread
« Reply #41261 on: March 05, 2021, 09:18:05 AM »
The Telfords are on the Lakai site. Just bought 2 pairs.

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Re: Post UPCOMING/RECENT shoe releases thread
« Reply #41262 on: March 05, 2021, 10:13:04 AM »
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What are the different uses that justify making a Half-Cab pro and a Half-Cab classic that are so drastically different that people consistently avoid or complain about one of the other?
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Just to make clear, they are replacing and not releasing these along the pros. So the "different uses" point won't matter since they will be phasing out the pro line.
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So they are doing the Repeal and Replace that Trump claimed but never made good on??

Also, to make clear, Vans does indeed have at least one other version of the Half Cab, the Classic. Which is like their casual one not optimized for modern skateboarding. I don't see what's bad about having both.

Oyolar, are you also pissed at Nike then? In recent years Nike has had like 6+ different builds of things like the Blazer Low... Nike Sportswear Blazer Low (direct parallel to Vans Classic), Nike Blazer Low '77 (truest to 1970's build, like Vans Vault), Nike SB Zoom Blazer Low (shape is TOTALLY different, panels are altered, but made better for skating), Nike SB GT Blazer, and now even the Nike SB GT Blazer Low Pro, on top of some fashion-specific alterations like Virgil's versions and stuff. Long story short, brands iterate and reiterate on their franchise models.

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I mean, yeah. I also think that's stupid. But notice how only three of those Blazers are SBs? Those are the only ones I actually give a shit thinking about so the fact that Nike has a bunch of other ones for different verticals (tennis, basketball, fashion, etc.) doesn't mean anything to me.

Last I checked on the Vans website this morning, they only have 1 skate specific version (SB tangent) of their iconic models of shoes. Skate Old Skool, Skate Half Cab, etc. The Pro line, as discussed heavily, is gone. So your point about 3 SB Blazers is kinda moot... Nike has more duplicity in even their specific skate line by your metric. The other Vans Old Skools and Authentics and stuff in the line are for different verticals (fashion, casual, etc) and shouldn't mean anything to you either.
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Re: Post UPCOMING/RECENT shoe releases thread
« Reply #41263 on: March 05, 2021, 10:14:58 AM »
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so what's the deal with that weird glossy sole on the new Vans? Looks like the white ones also have it?
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I think someone posted about it somewhere on here, that it doesn't discolor or pick up dirt as much at the old ones did. That is what I remember being posted, anyway.

took a shot in the dark and asked the Vans insta and they responded with this:

"just a throwback nod to our old Anaheim designs. There will be options without glossy soles too."

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Re: Post UPCOMING/RECENT shoe releases thread
« Reply #41264 on: March 05, 2021, 11:25:40 AM »
wow asking the questions like a real man
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Re: Post UPCOMING/RECENT shoe releases thread
« Reply #41265 on: March 05, 2021, 02:12:11 PM »
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Just to make clear, they are replacing and not releasing these along the pros.
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Right - the Skate line replaces the Pro line. Here's a pic from Lotties to compare:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMATmqIjviZ/
compared to the now old "Pros"

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Damn, that checkered label really is atrocious.

That checkered label makes them look like some third tier mall shop Vans. It just looks bad. The red label on the pro's made them look like a better quality model. The old skool pro's just looked right.

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Re: Post UPCOMING/RECENT shoe releases thread
« Reply #41266 on: March 05, 2021, 04:11:34 PM »
Just ordered that new Gonz color way. Pretty hyped for them to arrive. Reminds me of an old Reynolds 1 color way I had.

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Re: Post UPCOMING/RECENT shoe releases thread
« Reply #41267 on: March 05, 2021, 04:21:43 PM »

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Re: Post UPCOMING/RECENT shoe releases thread
« Reply #41268 on: March 05, 2021, 06:46:12 PM »

For all you not feeling the checkered flag

But I feel you. I feel like anybody who really wants the upgraded skate versions are able to look for the pop cush or literally just read the word "skate" before ordering online. The flag may be more for clueless staff to be able to differentiate the product they are selling.

I wish I didn't have to look at your sig in every thread tbh. That shit is annoying and usually so are your posts.

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Re: Post UPCOMING/RECENT shoe releases thread
« Reply #41271 on: March 06, 2021, 11:57:46 AM »
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMCWkuFAYYH/?igshid=x1x1c7vcghje

Not anti-Beatrice, but why arenít Breeana or Una getting any colorways if ams are getting colorways

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Re: Post UPCOMING/RECENT shoe releases thread
« Reply #41272 on: March 06, 2021, 12:16:57 PM »

Not anti-Beatrice, but why arenít Breeana or Una getting any colorways if ams are getting colorways
bre is getting two colorways coming in summer. una i dont think has the following yet, i could be wrong though.

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Re: Post UPCOMING/RECENT shoe releases thread
« Reply #41274 on: March 06, 2021, 04:15:00 PM »
https://www.lakai.com/products/telford-white-blueberry-suede-ms1210208b00

They dropped 3 colorways of the telford hi

I really wish they would just put out some standard ass boring colorways of this shoe. Black/white, black/white/gum
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Re: Post UPCOMING/RECENT shoe releases thread
« Reply #41275 on: March 06, 2021, 05:08:39 PM »
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https://www.lakai.com/products/telford-white-blueberry-suede-ms1210208b00

They dropped 3 colorways of the telford hi
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I really wish they would just put out some standard ass boring colorways of this shoe. Black/white, black/white/gum

It would t be lakai if they gave people what they wanted. 

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Re: Post UPCOMING/RECENT shoe releases thread
« Reply #41276 on: March 06, 2021, 05:24:03 PM »
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https://www.lakai.com/products/telford-white-blueberry-suede-ms1210208b00

They dropped 3 colorways of the telford hi
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I really wish they would just put out some standard ass boring colorways of this shoe. Black/white, black/white/gum
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It would t be lakai if they gave people what they wanted.

These are supposed to be like, Jordans/Dunks - do those shoes have a narrow sole? The sole they used on the Telford is the same as some Manchester's I got in the last year, and they were so narrow I had to get rid of them. Seems like an odd sole for the Telford, but maybe it will feel better with a roomier shoe.

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« Reply #41277 on: March 06, 2021, 06:00:47 PM »
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https://www.lakai.com/products/telford-white-blueberry-suede-ms1210208b00

They dropped 3 colorways of the telford hi
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I really wish they would just put out some standard ass boring colorways of this shoe. Black/white, black/white/gum
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It would t be lakai if they gave people what they wanted.
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These are supposed to be like, Jordans/Dunks - do those shoes have a narrow sole? The sole they used on the Telford is the same as some Manchester's I got in the last year, and they were so narrow I had to get rid of them. Seems like an odd sole for the Telford, but maybe it will feel better with a roomier shoe.

I tried them on when the Black Sabbath ones released and they definitely felt pretty narrow and I have a narrow foot. They felt weirdly pointy too. I hated it and didnít even consider buying them

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« Reply #41278 on: March 06, 2021, 06:07:14 PM »
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https://www.lakai.com/products/telford-white-blueberry-suede-ms1210208b00

They dropped 3 colorways of the telford hi
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I really wish they would just put out some standard ass boring colorways of this shoe. Black/white, black/white/gum
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It would t be lakai if they gave people what they wanted.
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These are supposed to be like, Jordans/Dunks - do those shoes have a narrow sole? The sole they used on the Telford is the same as some Manchester's I got in the last year, and they were so narrow I had to get rid of them. Seems like an odd sole for the Telford, but maybe it will feel better with a roomier shoe.
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I tried them on when the Black Sabbath ones released and they definitely felt pretty narrow and I have a narrow foot. They felt weirdly pointy too. I hated it and didnít even consider buying them

I have a kind of narrow foot too so I was really surprised the Manchester's were too skinny. My feet were aching for a day and a half after wearing them for a couple hours. I ended up trying the Carroll's and even at half a size up they're super tight. Lakai is junk. Bums me out to say it because I'm a fan of Howard and Carroll but I've never tried on a pair of Lakai's that feel good. 

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Re: Post UPCOMING/RECENT shoe releases thread
« Reply #41279 on: March 06, 2021, 06:08:51 PM »
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https://www.lakai.com/products/telford-white-blueberry-suede-ms1210208b00

They dropped 3 colorways of the telford hi
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I really wish they would just put out some standard ass boring colorways of this shoe. Black/white, black/white/gum
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It would t be lakai if they gave people what they wanted.
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These are supposed to be like, Jordans/Dunks - do those shoes have a narrow sole? The sole they used on the Telford is the same as some Manchester's I got in the last year, and they were so narrow I had to get rid of them. Seems like an odd sole for the Telford, but maybe it will feel better with a roomier shoe.

So, usually when you use the same outsole from a previous shoe you need to use the same last that the old shoe used. You canít change to a roomier last (or at least you shouldnít) and keep the same tooling. The last is what gives shape to the shoe, so if you had a narrow shoe with that tooling before, most likely the next oneís gonna be narrow too. (I guess you can also tweak a bit the pattern to get some room, but thereís so much you can do)...

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