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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #5850 on: September 22, 2022, 12:01:24 PM »
best risers for af1s to match indy height?

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #5851 on: September 22, 2022, 12:02:31 PM »
The hards get better with break in also. They loosen up a bit and rebound even better than the stock. They were ideal in hot weather but now its cooled down again they are feeling a little hard for my taste. Seasonal Bushing Mental Meltdown.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #5852 on: September 22, 2022, 12:03:20 PM »
best risers for af1s to match indy height?

Ace Risers fit perfectly but will be the tiniest bit higher than a Indy. We're talking 1mm...

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #5853 on: September 22, 2022, 12:06:07 PM »
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best risers for af1s to match indy height?
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Ace Risers fit perfectly but will be the tiniest bit higher than a Indy. We're talking 1mm...

would the Ace Shockpads be any better? They're thinner than the risers.
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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #5854 on: September 22, 2022, 12:06:24 PM »
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best risers for af1s to match indy height?
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Ace Risers fit perfectly but will be the tiniest bit higher than a Indy. We're talking 1mm...

would you recommend the 1/8 or 1/16? the 1/16 is soft

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #5855 on: September 22, 2022, 12:09:02 PM »
1/16th risers are about 1.5mm 1/8th risers are about 3mm (fractions of a mm more). So a 1/8th riser would put an af1 right about an indy standard height, and a 1/16th riser would put an af1 at an indy forged height.
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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #5856 on: September 22, 2022, 12:09:34 PM »
1/16th risers are about 1.5mm 1/8th risers are about 3mm (fractions of a mm more). So a 1/8th riser would put an af1 right about an indy standard height, and a 1/16th riser would put an af1 at an indy forged height.

awesome! thank you so much

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #5857 on: September 22, 2022, 12:09:40 PM »
1/8" is about 3mm
1/16" is about 1.5mm

I like both but typically prefer the 1/8" as I am an old, slow, heavy bloke who likes loose trucks.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #5858 on: September 22, 2022, 12:11:05 PM »
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Anyone know when Ace switched to the 86a bottom bushings in the classics? Bought some 33s a few months ago but haven't set them up. Not sure how long they've been in the shop so I'm just wondering if they might have the old Ace bushings. Just wondering because I really want to skate the 86a bottom bushing
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Havenít the classics always had 86a barrel bottoms and 91a conical tops? Dual Duro bushins. Ēloose trucks save livesĒ and all that.

All of the Classics I had came with softer barrels and harder cones. They do sell 94a Hard bushing sets.
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Does anyone actually skate the stock Ace bushings? They're so squishy.

Got my first set of AF1's recently coming off of independents with std 90 duro orange bushings. Holy wheelbite batman and that was just standing on the board. I've never gotten wheelbite before. Every set of Indy's I've had I could lift the off side wheels with no bite.

I tried cranking the Aces down but it didn't help enough so I swapped in some 92 duro independent bushings.

How do people ride 86 duro bushings? How many threads showing before there skateable?

All that aside I think I'm going to like how these turn once I get the bushings set up like I like them. They turn so much further than my Indy's.
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The bushings make the turn, man. Put em back on please you're missing out. You'll be able to crank em after a few sessions

Stock bushings is comparable to sex. Cant really do much with it when it soft and squishy but tease it alittle and give it time to get comfortable/gain some confidence and that thing will harden up and give you the best ride of your life.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #5859 on: September 22, 2022, 12:13:26 PM »
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1/16th risers are about 1.5mm 1/8th risers are about 3mm (fractions of a mm more). So a 1/8th riser would put an af1 right about an indy standard height, and a 1/16th riser would put an af1 at an indy forged height.
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awesome! thank you so much

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #5860 on: September 23, 2022, 07:56:40 AM »
I'm struggling with some setup madness.  Trying to move to a larger board, bigger wheelbase (14.5") because I'm big and getting old and I feel dumb riding smaller boards now. Finding the right trucks have been a struggle.  I tried AF1 55s and they were decent, but the weight was hard for me to flip.  Has anyone tried the hollows do they actually feel lighter and flip faster?  Any comparisons to forged hollow Indy 149s would also be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #5861 on: September 23, 2022, 08:06:56 AM »
I have not but I am also old and big.   I've found the best remedy when my set ups are feeling heavy and sluggish is smaller wheels, lowering the rig. More stable, responsive and flips better. Not to say lighter trucks won't help but I've never messed with hollow anything...

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #5862 on: September 23, 2022, 09:42:04 AM »
Was on my classics all summer and just switched back to my AF1.

ACE bros why is my truck suddenly clicking. Is it because I have them significantly looser and the washer catches?

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #5863 on: September 23, 2022, 09:50:23 AM »
Was on my classics all summer and just switched back to my AF1.

ACE bros why is my truck suddenly clicking. Is it because I have them significantly looser and the washer catches?

check that pivot cup, mine did the same thing even though i had the classics and it stopped once i switch that lil fucker out

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #5864 on: September 23, 2022, 09:55:08 AM »
Was on my classics all summer and just switched back to my AF1.

ACE bros why is my truck suddenly clicking. Is it because I have them significantly looser and the washer catches?

Because they click and no one knows why. I haven't been able to find an adequate answer and no matter what I try, they'll just click again every once in a while.
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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #5865 on: September 23, 2022, 10:00:17 AM »
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Was on my classics all summer and just switched back to my AF1.

ACE bros why is my truck suddenly clicking. Is it because I have them significantly looser and the washer catches?
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Because they click and no one knows why. I haven't been able to find an adequate answer and no matter what I try, they'll just click again every once in a while.

Pretty sure the clicking has been identified as the bushing spilling over, or the washer itself moving from side to side
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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #5866 on: September 23, 2022, 11:53:23 AM »
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Was on my classics all summer and just switched back to my AF1.

ACE bros why is my truck suddenly clicking. Is it because I have them significantly looser and the washer catches?
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Because they click and no one knows why. I haven't been able to find an adequate answer and no matter what I try, they'll just click again every once in a while.
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Pretty sure the clicking has been identified as the bushing spilling over, or the washer itself moving from side to side

I donít think the bushings bulging over the washer is related as that doesnít happen in AF1s but I do think it was identified as one of the washers clicking against the kingpin. Itís happened on all my AF1s and it goes away eventually. Doesnít bother me much. Would be nicer if it didnít happen but it does. Someone had a fix too but I canít really what it was as I didnít care enough to try it myself.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #5867 on: September 23, 2022, 07:03:31 PM »
Was on my classics all summer and just switched back to my AF1.

ACE bros why is my truck suddenly clicking. Is it because I have them significantly looser and the washer catches?

If I remember it's to do with the hole in the washers for the bushings being maybe too big. Think people swapped the washers out (maybe Indy ones) and it helped

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #5868 on: September 24, 2022, 12:56:51 PM »
Hey,
I looked around in the thread but still wasnt sure what was the best option if my classic 55's front truck kingpin is starting to get loose. Is it because its broken or that even if I switch it to another one the kingpin hole is already hole-out so it wont change anything? Thanks!

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #5869 on: September 24, 2022, 02:30:53 PM »
Hey,
I looked around in the thread but still wasnt sure what was the best option if my classic 55's front truck kingpin is starting to get loose. Is it because its broken or that even if I switch it to another one the kingpin hole is already hole-out so it wont change anything? Thanks!

Your best bet is to email Ace about a warranty. This happened to me (both trucks), I reached out to Ace and they offered some replacements. I requested some AF1s 44s, and they sent them to me without any hassle. The whole thing took like six days, though I know some people here say that they had to bug Ace a few times.
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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #5870 on: September 24, 2022, 04:13:17 PM »
I had pivot cup blow out and clicking and although I asked Ace just for some cups they sent me an entire set of trucks. Their warranty service is great.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #5871 on: September 24, 2022, 09:47:29 PM »
Hey,
I looked around in the thread but still wasnt sure what was the best option if my classic 55's front truck kingpin is starting to get loose. Is it because its broken or that even if I switch it to another one the kingpin hole is already hole-out so it wont change anything? Thanks!

Even if you get new trucks as a warranty replacement the kingpin can be salvaged. Just hammer it out, put a bunch steel epoxy in there and hammer it back in. Iíve done this to two sets of old Ace 44s and had no issues since. If you do this, remember to be careful not to bend the baseplate and use a nut on the kingpin so you wonít fuck up the kingpin threads while hammering. You also need a bolt or something to hammer the kingpin back in deep enough.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #5872 on: Today at 05:13:32 AM »
I think the click comes from hard tight fitting washers (kingpin hardness/dimensions could factor in). I would bet its the top/roadside washer clicking on the threads.

Indy washers by my measure have a larger hole and seem softer than ace.

I use flat washers top and bottom in my AF1's and the repurposed Bones washers (also hard metal w/small hole) click a tiny bit once and awhile.


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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #5873 on: Today at 06:42:20 AM »
I think the click comes from hard tight fitting washers (kingpin hardness/dimensions could factor in). I would bet its the top/roadside washer clicking on the threads.

Indy washers by my measure have a larger hole and seem softer than ace.

I use flat washers top and bottom in my AF1's and the repurposed Bones washers (also hard metal w/small hole) click a tiny bit once and awhile.

I immediately swapped out the stock AF1 washers with some of those sleeve longboard washers and the clicking happened just as it did with my bone stock Classics. I eventually took them apart, cleaned them up, and applied an extremely thin layer of waterproof grease. This made the clicking go away, though I expect the grease will eventually wear out and need replacing.
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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #5874 on: Today at 07:23:00 AM »
Anyone here put an inverted kingpin into an AF1?

Any tips? I hear the kingpin can be a bitch to get out.
And do you prep the inside of the baseplate for the steel epoxy?
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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #5875 on: Today at 08:17:34 AM »
Anyone here put an inverted kingpin into an AF1?

Any tips? I hear the kingpin can be a bitch to get out.
And do you prep the inside of the baseplate for the steel epoxy?

I did it to my 44 classics and I know I cant stop you from doing this so use jb weld steel stick and get a kreper kingpin or krux.

It's not really worth it I think because I had to completely remove the truck everytime I wanted to tighten/adjust. I felt it also removed alot of what makes the truck work.

If youve ever seen that Simpsons episode where bart sells his soul? That's you replacing the kingpin

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #5876 on: Today at 10:45:54 AM »
Thanks for all the feedback! Ive send a email to the customer service and meanwhile put an old kingpin from a blown out baseplate. If it does get loose again, Im give it another try with the epoxy.
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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #5877 on: Today at 11:18:33 AM »
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Anyone know when Ace switched to the 86a bottom bushings in the classics? Bought some 33s a few months ago but haven't set them up. Not sure how long they've been in the shop so I'm just wondering if they might have the old Ace bushings. Just wondering because I really want to skate the 86a bottom bushing
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Havenít the classics always had 86a barrel bottoms and 91a conical tops? Dual Duro bushins. Ēloose trucks save livesĒ and all that.

All of the Classics I had came with softer barrels and harder cones. They do sell 94a Hard bushing sets.
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Does anyone actually skate the stock Ace bushings? They're so squishy.

Got my first set of AF1's recently coming off of independents with std 90 duro orange bushings. Holy wheelbite batman and that was just standing on the board. I've never gotten wheelbite before. Every set of Indy's I've had I could lift the off side wheels with no bite.

I tried cranking the Aces down but it didn't help enough so I swapped in some 92 duro independent bushings.

How do people ride 86 duro bushings? How many threads showing before there skateable?

All that aside I think I'm going to like how these turn once I get the bushings set up like I like them. They turn so much further than my Indy's.
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The bushings make the turn, man. Put em back on please you're missing out. You'll be able to crank em after a few sessions
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Stock bushings is comparable to sex. Cant really do much with it when it soft and squishy but tease it alittle and give it time to get comfortable/gain some confidence and that thing will harden up and give you the best ride of your life.

Sex you say. Ok I'm sold. I put the stock bushings back in but I did have to tighten the nut to about 2 or 3 threads showing to start with. Plan to loosen them a bit each week.
Hopefully if I keep playing with it, things will stiffen up.