My ace trucks were pretty much awful. Can't believe how many people are praising the stability on this thread. i ride super loose trucks, but my ace were the opposite of stable. i can get the same turn radius with indys yet still set up for flip tricks without flip flopping to wheel bite right away. Also the axles slipped, bent and hanger cracked. And put em on a scale and compare to indys, youd be surprised that the slim silhouette of ace trucks actually weighs more than the equivalent size of indys. I did contact joey tershay and he was super cool about replacing them which is sick, but i got too lazy to ship em out and bought some new indys down the street. Also, for the people saying they can't get indys loose enough without the nut falling off, sanding down the bushings is an easy solution.