Mature is right. F*ckin pigs and their mainstream bullsh*t. J Dilla, 'Sop Rock, Slugg, the subject matter is way more intelligent than "Crunk" crap.
How the hell do you like Aesop Rock or Slug and not Jay-Z? You're such a typical wannabe backpacker who missed the bus because they were born just a few years too late to actually witness the early 90s and the "golden age" of modern hip-hop, so you resorted to listening to that awful whiteboy garbage rap that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. They all sound the same, same pseudointellectual crap with that cliche as fuck nasally white bread voice and weak-as-clock-radio-speaker delivery. Go ahead and convince yourself it makes sense, though. It's cool to be against the grain and dismiss everything mainstream yet hold artists with endearment whose record sales reflect their musical abilities (read: slim to none).
Have you even owned one of Jay-Z's CDs? Did you know he always makes references on his CDs to the dumb general public radio listener and how he deliberately makes some tracks weak yet catchy for the airwaves only? He does that because he's actually got half a brain and doesn't need to completely go soft or off-the-wall to sell a decent amount of records. His CDs are all the same, good songs with a bit of radio fodder here and there just to please the kooks. The people who truly know the gifted man he is listen to his Type A material and skip the radio shit, whilst the kooks listen to just the radio hits and skip the Type A stuff. On occassion, the stuff that makes it on the radio is actually good (99 Problems, for example). It's a Yin/Yang way of making music that has solidified his place in the hearts of not just the underground heads, but the radio kooks as well. The man knows what he is doing, and it's a shame you don't see just how good he is.
Ludacris and Outkast are the only other ones left who can still represent "good" hip-hop and still be experimental and successful at the same time, while that whiteboy crazy space shit that don't even make no sense still flies under the radar. There was a time when I could say I loved both Mobb Deep and The Roots, but those times are long passed. Mobb Deep's appeal to me dwindled with Prodigy's delivery, and I haven't heard anything good from them since Murda Muzik. The Roots lost a crucial piece to their puzzle when Malik B parted ways, and Black Thought just doesn't do it for me by himself.
Quite a speech, I know, but I think it's just foolish to dismiss commercial successes when some of them have earned their dues.