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google buying you tube
« on: October 10, 2006, 03:10:43 PM »
After YouTube: The beginning of the end?
Now that Google has snatched up the leading online video site, will rivals shell out big bucks, or will the competition dry up for smaller sites?

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Has the online video shakeout only begun or is the bubble about to burst?

Google's $1.65 billion agreement to acquire YouTube Monday is the latest, splashiest and most expensive of deals involving companies in the nascent online video business.
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Google has continued to impress investors while Yahoo has lagged. And now that Google has scooped up YouTube, some think Yahoo may need to make a big deal of its own to get back in Wall Street's good graces.
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Industry experts say that Google's rivals, both traditional media companies and Internet firms like Yahoo!, need to reevaluate their online video strategies now that the search engine kingpin and online video leader have joined forces.

"I think certainly there is going to be a lot of activity. I don't think anybody wants to cede the market to Google and there are a lot of media companies that are poised to do something," said Greg Kostello, founder and CEO of vMix, a privately held video site.

But some caution that media companies also have to be careful of overpaying.

"You do need to react to this deal if you are a competitor but it's just a matter of how. Google is inflating the value of the market overall because they can afford to do so," said Bill Wise, chief executive officer of Did-it Search Marketing, a paid search advertising firm based in New York.

The $1.65 billion price tag for YouTube may in fact mark the beginning of the end for this latest dot-com craze. Instead of forcing other media firms to make acquisitions, it could scare them off.

"YouTube is a 67-person company in an unproven market that hasn't made any money. So it's seemingly ridiculous amount of money to spend," Wise said.
Who's next?

To that end, other privately held online video search firms with a notable amount of traffic, companies like Metacafe, Heavy.com, Guba and Break.com, could find themselves being able to command much higher prices in a sale than they would have before Google bought YouTube.

"For any of YouTube's competitors, they have to be doing back flips," said Michael Goodman, program manager of digital entertainment with Yankee Group, a tech research firm. "If you are another video sharing site, you have to be thinking please let there be someone else out there that wants to buy."

David Carson, the co-CEO of Heavy.com, agreed that the price Google (Charts) was willing to pay for YouTube caught many by surprise.

"The deal is pretty significant in many ways. It certainly made everyone stop and pay attention. Nobody was expecting the valuation to be as high as what it was," he said.

Carson said that Heavy.com, which has been the subject of takeover rumors with companies such as Viacom (Charts), News Corp. (Charts) and Yahoo (Charts) often mentioned as suitors, is not looking to sell but that he would entertain the thought of a sale if a good exit strategy presented itself.
Yahoo may have to act quickly

So will any of Google's competitors be willing to spend to keep pace with Google? Scott Kessler, an equity analyst with Standard & Poor's, says that Yahoo, which warned of softness in the online ad market last month and has also been hit by delays to its important new search advertising platform, may have no choice but to make a move.

Yahoo has been rumored to be in talks to buy social networking site Facebook and could be forced to make a move sooner rather than later. A spokesperson for Yahoo was not immediately available for comment.

"This increases the pressure on Yahoo to do something. There is this perception that Google is not just executing well but that it is also being more aggressive," Kessler said.

Other companies may not have to make such drastic moves though.

Microsoft (Charts), which was said to be interested in YouTube, announced last month that it was starting a YouTube rival called Soapbox. And late yesterday, the company said in a statement that it has no plans to make an online video acquisition to counter Google's move.

"We evaluated acquiring this type of technology several months ago. We decided to build our own offering, focused on driving better customer and advertiser experiences through integration with Microsoft assets and services that reach an estimated global audience of 465 million consumers," a Microsoft spokesman said.

"We are excited about the potential we are seeing in the beta of Soapbox on MSN and believe building our own solution is a more cost-effective way to compete in this new space," the spokesman added.

However, Wise said that if Soapbox flops, Microsoft could be the one company that can go out and match Google with a big deal of its own.

"The only company that can potentially keep up with the rising prices that Google has set is Microsoft. It will be interesting to see what Microsoft does in response to this," he said.

Analysts said that News Corp., which owns the popular MySpace social networking site, has quickly built its MySpace Videos site to the number two spot behind YouTube. So it probably doesn't need to make a deal and should just concentrate on promoting MySpace more aggressively.

"News Corp. already has a burgeoning online video business with MySpace," said Kessler. A spokeswoman for Fox Interactive Media, the News Corp unit that includes MySpace, had no comment about the Google-YouTube deal.
Bubbles or bargains?

Other media firms have also been increasing their presence in the online video market and could step up their investments even further since they have only spent a relatively small amount so far.

Sony bought online video sharing site Grouper in August for just $65 million. Viacom bought iFilm last year and Atom Entertainment in August for a combined $250 million.

And AOL, which like CNNMoney.com is a unit of Time Warner (Charts), has bought a slew of online video assets lately, most recently video search firm Truveo and online video advertising company Lightningcast. Terms of those deals were not disclosed but sources estimated that AOL paid about $50 million for Truveo.

"There will be acquisitions from the big boys. Video needs to be a component of any serious Internet player," said Eric Chin, a partner with Bay Partners, a venture capital firm based in Cupertino, Calif.

And Heavy.com's Carson said that larger media companies may wind up looking to scoop up some of the remaining online video sharing sites because they feel that it is easier to purchase an existing business than invest in building up their own.

"I think some media conglomerates will make smaller acquisitions and you might see some that make some surprising moves based on the YouTube deal. Some companies are starting to realize that maybe they have to buy," he said.

To be sure, YouTube, which has more than 100 million videos downloaded a day and commands nearly half the share of the online video market, was the most sought after of all the privately held video sites. It is the proverbial flavor of the month.

But Yankee Group's Goodman pointed out that News Corp. paid only $590 million for MySpace last year.

"Is this an Internet boom or bust? When you see a nearly three times increase in what Google paid for YouTube than what News Corp paid for MySpace for a company with even less of a business model than MySpace, you have to ask those questions. This could be the precursor of the Internet bust part 2," he said.



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Re: google buying you tube
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2006, 03:13:27 PM »

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Re: google buying you tube
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2006, 03:14:20 PM »
fuck that might suck. Youtube is tight shit except for the horrible quality.
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2006, 03:17:23 PM »
itll probably get better then

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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2006, 04:37:56 PM »
not once they start to mke you buy certain videos

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Re: google buying you tube
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2006, 05:02:29 PM »
not once they start to mke you buy certain videos

yeah you gotta pay to watch UFC bouts, music videos, movies, and even skate videos on google video already

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Re: google buying you tube
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2006, 05:12:33 PM »
a billion dollars . fuck

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Re: google buying you tube
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2006, 06:32:48 PM »
They just bought their only competition, really. The fact that they consider Google Video a failure in general, makes this decision wise.

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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2006, 06:39:00 PM »
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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2006, 08:53:06 PM »
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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2006, 09:33:14 PM »
So nate how are you going to get props from people you dont know on the internet now that youtube is under new management?

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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2006, 09:50:58 PM »
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« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2006, 02:41:33 AM »
yay! ad time!

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« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2006, 09:13:01 AM »
I heard about that the other day....

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« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2006, 10:13:15 AM »
Personally, I'm just waiting for Google to blanket SF with a free WiFi connection in the near future.

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« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2006, 11:33:27 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2006, 12:19:29 AM »
Thank you.
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« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2006, 10:16:35 AM »
the reason why google video didn't do so great was that they clamped down on copyright material infringement. i heard that when they bought youtube they signed agreements with major film studios and tv networks to essentially do the same with youtube...maybe the future won't be skate videos up on youtube 10 minutes after release after all...

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Re: google buying you tube
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2006, 11:00:23 AM »
DailyMotion ftw