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Re: magic carpet vs. hot rod
« Reply #60 on: May 11, 2023, 12:16:20 AM »
Just set up a Polar 92 shape with Ace 55s: magic carpet in the front, hot rod in the back.

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forgive me if i somehow missed it, but could someone help me with just how flat the flat as fuck decks really are?
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Re: magic carpet vs. hot rod
« Reply #61 on: May 11, 2023, 04:40:18 AM »
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Just set up a Polar 92 shape with Ace 55s: magic carpet in the front, hot rod in the back.

I hate it.
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Re: magic carpet vs. hot rod
« Reply #62 on: May 11, 2023, 05:02:48 AM »
im running 8.25 on one of those big polar surf shapes, feels good

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Re: magic carpet vs. hot rod
« Reply #63 on: May 11, 2023, 05:41:12 AM »
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im running 8.25 on one of those big polar surf shapes, feels good
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Re: magic carpet vs. hot rod
« Reply #64 on: May 11, 2023, 11:36:12 AM »
169's on the 10" mutant and egg shapes. pretty decent magic carpet.

i used to hotrod pretty badly riding 215's. switched back to 169's and now i gotten to a point where if i see my front wheels it throws me off.
i ditched a deck after 3 sessions cause it tapered too much at the nose poking my wheels out with the 169's. i just coulnt do it.

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Re: magic carpet vs. hot rod
« Reply #65 on: May 11, 2023, 02:53:04 PM »
Magic Carpet yo. I need to land every kick flip I try. Magic Carpet is more likely to go wheels down if primo too.

Everything is more dangerous for me when I hot rod. Especially flat bars.
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Re: magic carpet vs. hot rod
« Reply #66 on: May 11, 2023, 03:58:15 PM »
Hot Rod for me

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Re: magic carpet vs. hot rod
« Reply #67 on: May 11, 2023, 05:21:26 PM »
When in doubt consult The Boss- 139's on up to 8.5.

Think of it this way- it's easier to add washers than make a truck narrower. If you're like me and like a weirdo in between size like 8.38 get the size closest to the decks you might otherwise ride.

Boss rides 144 now. But yeah, he was actually still on 129s when he was skating 8"+ decks.

So if we're to go by him, a little Aladdin action is ok, but no more than a quarter inch or so if you wanna get with Princess Jasmine.

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Re: magic carpet vs. hot rod
« Reply #68 on: May 11, 2023, 05:59:22 PM »
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When in doubt consult The Boss- 139's on up to 8.5.

Think of it this way- it's easier to add washers than make a truck narrower. If you're like me and like a weirdo in between size like 8.38 get the size closest to the decks you might otherwise ride.
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Boss rides 144 now. But yeah, he was actually still on 129s when he was skating 8"+ decks.

So if we're to go by him, a little Aladdin action is ok, but no more than a quarter inch or so if you wanna get with Princess Jasmine.

He's back on 139.

He was going back and forth between 144 and 139 a while ago but was skating on Stage 4 136 (8") quite a bit recently. In his most recent IG post someone asked if he skates 139 and he said yes. Looks like he's back on Stage 11 as well.


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Re: magic carpet vs. hot rod
« Reply #69 on: May 11, 2023, 07:28:40 PM »
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When in doubt consult The Boss- 139's on up to 8.5.

Think of it this way- it's easier to add washers than make a truck narrower. If you're like me and like a weirdo in between size like 8.38 get the size closest to the decks you might otherwise ride.
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Boss rides 144 now. But yeah, he was actually still on 129s when he was skating 8"+ decks.

So if we're to go by him, a little Aladdin action is ok, but no more than a quarter inch or so if you wanna get with Princess Jasmine.
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He's back on 139.

He was going back and forth between 144 and 139 a while ago but was skating on Stage 4 136 (8") quite a bit recently. In his most recent IG post someone asked if he skates 139 and he said yes. Looks like he's back on Stage 11 as well.

I feel guilty for being genuinely interested in this.

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Re: magic carpet vs. hot rod
« Reply #70 on: May 11, 2023, 07:59:21 PM »
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When in doubt consult The Boss- 139's on up to 8.5.

Think of it this way- it's easier to add washers than make a truck narrower. If you're like me and like a weirdo in between size like 8.38 get the size closest to the decks you might otherwise ride.
[close]

Boss rides 144 now. But yeah, he was actually still on 129s when he was skating 8"+ decks.

So if we're to go by him, a little Aladdin action is ok, but no more than a quarter inch or so if you wanna get with Princess Jasmine.
[close]

He's back on 139.

He was going back and forth between 144 and 139 a while ago but was skating on Stage 4 136 (8") quite a bit recently. In his most recent IG post someone asked if he skates 139 and he said yes. Looks like he's back on Stage 11 as well.
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I feel guilty for being genuinely interested in this.

I am a shameless kook about shit like this. I love pro setup videos, I scan comments on instagram for tidbits, I zoom in on video to see what they're riding...

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Re: magic carpet vs. hot rod
« Reply #71 on: May 11, 2023, 11:03:44 PM »
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When in doubt consult The Boss- 139's on up to 8.5.

Think of it this way- it's easier to add washers than make a truck narrower. If you're like me and like a weirdo in between size like 8.38 get the size closest to the decks you might otherwise ride.
[close]

Boss rides 144 now. But yeah, he was actually still on 129s when he was skating 8"+ decks.

So if we're to go by him, a little Aladdin action is ok, but no more than a quarter inch or so if you wanna get with Princess Jasmine.
[close]

He's back on 139.

He was going back and forth between 144 and 139 a while ago but was skating on Stage 4 136 (8") quite a bit recently. In his most recent IG post someone asked if he skates 139 and he said yes. Looks like he's back on Stage 11 as well.
[close]

I feel guilty for being genuinely interested in this.
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I am a shameless kook about shit like this. I love pro setup videos, I scan comments on instagram for tidbits, I zoom in on video to see what they're riding...


With some brands, I think too that the riders are almost expected to skate whatever new product comes out, whether they are just sent that in their package, or some brands would have something in there, where they are told, setup the new product (like Indy Mids / Stage 4 trucks) and make a video with them, or something similar.

For others it might be curiosity more than anything, eg something new comes out, I gotta at least try it, just to see what all the fuss is about, then go back to what I am used to.


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Re: magic carpet vs. hot rod
« Reply #72 on: May 12, 2023, 03:58:37 AM »
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When in doubt consult The Boss- 139's on up to 8.5.

Think of it this way- it's easier to add washers than make a truck narrower. If you're like me and like a weirdo in between size like 8.38 get the size closest to the decks you might otherwise ride.
[close]

Boss rides 144 now. But yeah, he was actually still on 129s when he was skating 8"+ decks.

So if we're to go by him, a little Aladdin action is ok, but no more than a quarter inch or so if you wanna get with Princess Jasmine.
[close]

He's back on 139.

He was going back and forth between 144 and 139 a while ago but was skating on Stage 4 136 (8") quite a bit recently. In his most recent IG post someone asked if he skates 139 and he said yes. Looks like he's back on Stage 11 as well.
[close]

I feel guilty for being genuinely interested in this.
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I am a shameless kook about shit like this. I love pro setup videos, I scan comments on instagram for tidbits, I zoom in on video to see what they're riding...

Haha, 
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What size deck is he riding with 136/139's? 

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Re: magic carpet vs. hot rod
« Reply #73 on: May 12, 2023, 05:57:03 AM »
9" deck with 8.5 trucks is such a good feeling setup on any terrain.
8.25" deck with 8.5 trucks is also such a good feeling setup on any terrain.
8.0" deck with 8.25 trucks is great as well.

There is no right answer. But I wanna say that axle width doesn't matter half as much as people think for me. All about hanger space and therefore wheel width for me. My 8.25 trucks with bones v3 have more hanger space than my 8.5 trucks with spit radials.

I've found that I feel most comfortable with a hanger space of about 140mm, which is exactly the thunder 148 with one speedring on the inside and bones v3 54mm wheels. The outside edge of the wheel doesn't really matter to me. Sure the v3 flip a bit easier, but it's not a problem with wide wheels at all. So in order to get this hanger space with radials, I need 3 speed rings on the inside I think.

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Re: magic carpet vs. hot rod
« Reply #74 on: May 12, 2023, 06:21:50 AM »
9" deck with 8.5 trucks is such a good feeling setup on any terrain.
8.25" deck with 8.5 trucks is also such a good feeling setup on any terrain.
8.0" deck with 8.25 trucks is great as well.

There is no right answer. But I wanna say that axle width doesn't matter half as much as people think for me. All about hanger space and therefore wheel width for me. My 8.25 trucks with bones v3 have more hanger space than my 8.5 trucks with spit radials.

I've found that I feel most comfortable with a hanger space of about 140mm, which is exactly the thunder 148 with one speedring on the inside and bones v3 54mm wheels. The outside edge of the wheel doesn't really matter to me. Sure the v3 flip a bit easier, but it's not a problem with wide wheels at all. So in order to get this hanger space with radials, I need 3 speed rings on the inside I think.

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Re: magic carpet vs. hot rod
« Reply #75 on: May 12, 2023, 08:56:08 AM »
This question drives me mad every once in a while.

Currently riding an 8.25" deck with 144s, but as someone pointed out, having trucks that are the same width as the board actually results in a tiny bit of magic carpet. 144s are not spot on flush with an 8.25".

Pretty happy with how things are, but as I like my deck being 8.25", I think I'll try 149s next and see if there's a difference in feel.

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Re: magic carpet vs. hot rod
« Reply #76 on: May 12, 2023, 09:19:38 AM »
With some brands, I think too that the riders are almost expected to skate whatever new product comes out, whether they are just sent that in their package, or some brands would have something in there, where they are told, setup the new product (like Indy Mids / Stage 4 trucks) and make a video with them, or something similar.

For others it might be curiosity more than anything, eg something new comes out, I gotta at least try it, just to see what all the fuss is about, then go back to what I am used to.

Definitely. I think Reynolds falls into the latter category.

He's also a dream pro to sponsor given he's so good at promoting product without it coming across as pushy or weird. I doubt he needs to be encouraged to promote things. He just seems hyped on everything he rides and makes it look cool.

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Back to the hot rod/magic carpet thing. I think the degree to which you hot rod and magic carpet is affected not just by the absolute difference between truck and board width, but the relative difference as well. A 1/2" difference on an 8" board is going to feel way crazier than a 1/2" on an 8.5" board.
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Re: magic carpet vs. hot rod
« Reply #77 on: May 14, 2023, 02:42:01 AM »
Tried a lot of different setups, wheel sizes, and decks, and there's a huge difference between hot rods and magic carpets

Started skating street 13 years ago with a magic carpet ride, independents 129, 8" decks and 52mm wheels, clearly is a tech oriented setup where the board flips really easy, board really stuck in your feet after popping. grinds very easy and pop out feels light and somewhat right, but i find really unstable at high speeds and transition feels weird. It feels nice on parks and nice streets/ledges

Nowadays, i ride big transitions and street, 8.5 bbs wood, 55 aces and 56 bones. Hot rods feel insanely right anywhere, especially big transitions and landing airs, Huge trucks make the board stable at high speeds and rough landings plus a smaller deck gives a really lightweight feel to it. Street wise, feels really good having big trucks, board still flicks right and you can grind thought anything.
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Re: magic carpet vs. hot rod
« Reply #78 on: May 14, 2023, 03:26:33 AM »
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When in doubt consult The Boss- 139's on up to 8.5.

Think of it this way- it's easier to add washers than make a truck narrower. If you're like me and like a weirdo in between size like 8.38 get the size closest to the decks you might otherwise ride.
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Boss rides 144 now. But yeah, he was actually still on 129s when he was skating 8"+ decks.

So if we're to go by him, a little Aladdin action is ok, but no more than a quarter inch or so if you wanna get with Princess Jasmine.
[close]

He's back on 139.

He was going back and forth between 144 and 139 a while ago but was skating on Stage 4 136 (8") quite a bit recently. In his most recent IG post someone asked if he skates 139 and he said yes. Looks like he's back on Stage 11 as well.
[close]

I feel guilty for being genuinely interested in this.
[close]

I am a shameless kook about shit like this. I love pro setup videos, I scan comments on instagram for tidbits, I zoom in on video to see what they're riding...
Is useless to try to keep up with Reynolds setups, the man changes them like we change socks
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forgive me if i somehow missed it, but could someone help me with just how flat the flat as fuck decks really are?
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Re: magic carpet vs. hot rod
« Reply #79 on: May 14, 2023, 10:29:37 AM »
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When in doubt consult The Boss- 139's on up to 8.5.

Think of it this way- it's easier to add washers than make a truck narrower. If you're like me and like a weirdo in between size like 8.38 get the size closest to the decks you might otherwise ride.
[close]

Boss rides 144 now. But yeah, he was actually still on 129s when he was skating 8"+ decks.

So if we're to go by him, a little Aladdin action is ok, but no more than a quarter inch or so if you wanna get with Princess Jasmine.
[close]

He's back on 139.

He was going back and forth between 144 and 139 a while ago but was skating on Stage 4 136 (8") quite a bit recently. In his most recent IG post someone asked if he skates 139 and he said yes. Looks like he's back on Stage 11 as well.
[close]

I feel guilty for being genuinely interested in this.
[close]

I am a shameless kook about shit like this. I love pro setup videos, I scan comments on instagram for tidbits, I zoom in on video to see what they're riding...
[close]
Is useless to try to keep up with Reynolds setups, the man changes them like we change socks

I mean, I havenít been paying attention for quite awhile, butÖhe sorta changes it. THE Reynolds setup people tend to reference, is from like 10-12 years ago. Since then he did the 144 vs 139 thing, and seems to generally skate 139s, with 8.125-8.25. Not too wild

Probably a post for a different thread, but some pros really do switch up the trucks: peacock, puig, Tyler BledsoeÖthose are some changes

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Re: magic carpet vs. hot rod
« Reply #80 on: May 14, 2023, 10:46:36 AM »
J got a new 8.5 Iím running on my 44 aces usually ride 8.2 deck but I donít even really notice a difference tbh
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Re: magic carpet vs. hot rod
« Reply #81 on: May 14, 2023, 11:29:45 AM »
I think I mentioned this is another thread, bits Iím running an 8.625 (PS) GX1000 deck with Indy stage 4 166s 58mm con fulls and the wheels sit flush with the edge of the deck. Perfection. Truck sizes leave so much up to experimentation and tinkering, part of the joy for me.

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« Reply #82 on: May 14, 2023, 07:28:43 PM »
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When in doubt consult The Boss- 139's on up to 8.5.

Think of it this way- it's easier to add washers than make a truck narrower. If you're like me and like a weirdo in between size like 8.38 get the size closest to the decks you might otherwise ride.
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Boss rides 144 now. But yeah, he was actually still on 129s when he was skating 8"+ decks.

So if we're to go by him, a little Aladdin action is ok, but no more than a quarter inch or so if you wanna get with Princess Jasmine.
[close]

He's back on 139.

He was going back and forth between 144 and 139 a while ago but was skating on Stage 4 136 (8") quite a bit recently. In his most recent IG post someone asked if he skates 139 and he said yes. Looks like he's back on Stage 11 as well.
[close]

I feel guilty for being genuinely interested in this.
[close]

I am a shameless kook about shit like this. I love pro setup videos, I scan comments on instagram for tidbits, I zoom in on video to see what they're riding...
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Is useless to try to keep up with Reynolds setups, the man changes them like we change socks

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Re: magic carpet vs. hot rod
« Reply #83 on: May 14, 2023, 09:08:43 PM »
Back in my day 90% of people magic carpet/hoverboard

So that

But a good 8.1-8.2 with some standard solid 144/148 is real nice like. Very responsive and just slightly heavy but not to the point you go old guy and stick to no pop skating

You know what I think ima go setup that setup now. Damn it guys!
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Re: magic carpet vs. hot rod
« Reply #84 on: May 14, 2023, 10:40:31 PM »
Been on 149's for like 20 years, used to run 8.5 decks now I use 8.25 decks. I think if you're within .25" either way it's fine. Some people run super magic carpety boards, Reynolds, herman, Leo Romero, I think Ellington, a lot of those dudes skate 8.25-8.5 decks on 139's. Leo used to skate like, an 8" deck with 129's and people have him shit for it hahah so now I think he has 139's

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Re: magic carpet vs. hot rod
« Reply #85 on: May 14, 2023, 10:55:05 PM »
Been on 149's for like 20 years, used to run 8.5 decks now I use 8.25 decks. I think if you're within .25" either way it's fine. Some people run super magic carpety boards, Reynolds, herman, Leo Romero, I think Ellington, a lot of those dudes skate 8.25-8.5 decks on 139's. Leo used to skate like, an 8" deck with 129's and people have him shit for it hahah so now I think he has 139's

So sad, he was ripping on that setup. He had 129 lows and popped so proper with such finesse, then he went to 139 maybe 144 standards and I can see in that footage his pop wasnít as solid, it was more like up and over let me get on the rail and out, it doesnít have that good pop and lock into grind like before
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Re: magic carpet vs. hot rod
« Reply #86 on: May 15, 2023, 06:44:48 AM »
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Been on 149's for like 20 years, used to run 8.5 decks now I use 8.25 decks. I think if you're within .25" either way it's fine. Some people run super magic carpety boards, Reynolds, herman, Leo Romero, I think Ellington, a lot of those dudes skate 8.25-8.5 decks on 139's. Leo used to skate like, an 8" deck with 129's and people have him shit for it hahah so now I think he has 139's
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So sad, he was ripping on that setup. He had 129 lows and popped so proper with such finesse, then he went to 139 maybe 144 standards and I can see in that footage his pop wasnít as solid, it was more like up and over let me get on the rail and out, it doesnít have that good pop and lock into grind like before

Hereís a wild one, on my part, thatís kooky: Joslin looked better on venture loís.


Iíve definitely had setups that I skated better, but didnít ride, because I felt awkward with the look. And thatís a part of how Iíve really handicapped my skating over the last 10-15 years; as Iíve gotten older, weaker/more broken, and able to skate less often, Iíve simultaneously attempted to to skate shit that younger cool people skate, like big ass boards, wide trucks, and big wheels. And itís still fun, and I can land some basic flatground, and sometimes the whole thing feels decent for a time, butÖ
As an example, I bought a board after not skating for awhile, this is now almost 10 years ago. Iíd really messed up my front foot/ankle/lower leg, and just didnít skate for too long. Bought an anti-hero green eagle, the little one, venture 5.0 HIís, and like 54s. Go skate and land all of my dumbass not good flatground stuff. But the setup looked soooo weird, and everyone was skating 8.25 on 149s, and I uhÖfelt weird.
Iíve never been good at keeping it real.

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Re: magic carpet vs. hot rod
« Reply #87 on: May 15, 2023, 09:17:12 AM »
Thunder 151 on 8.5s work well for me

This is my jam! Love this setup. Every one in awhile Iíll throw on some tricks that sit flush, but then I immediately go back. I donít like the way that feels. 1/4Ē wider trucks are my happy place.