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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #60 on: August 15, 2012, 10:49:26 AM »
I don't really give a fuck about this ad and think people can do whatever the fuck they want, doesn't bother me.

HOWEVER, In an interesting side note I meet the young girl - now a 40 year old peace advocate -  from this photograph at work. Her name is Kim Phuc (funny last name I know) and she is an incredible person with a crazy life story. RESPECT.

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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #61 on: August 15, 2012, 11:16:31 AM »
looking forward to the baker\dlx calbo series



but seriously, i wouldn't mind my kids seeing this when they were old enough to skate because they damn sure won't see this or any other iconic vietnam image in thier history books and i think it's important that my kids know about the horrors of war and of our imperalist past (well hopefully it will be past tense by then).


for those of you who offended, is this also offensive and if not then why not?



isn't this also explioting horrors of that war for marketing?

You don't even know what imperialism means.

Secondly, anyone that thinks this is immature is right.  So is skateboarding.  I hate purveyors of good taste.
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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #62 on: August 15, 2012, 11:19:45 AM »
<--  surprised Gipper hasn't contributed 8 - 40 paragraphs on the subject .  Actually curious on his angle for once.
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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #63 on: August 15, 2012, 11:31:19 AM »
You don't even know what imperialism means.

for fucks sake, how stupid are the people you are used to regergitating fox talking points too? you been trolling middle schools?


Secondly, anyone that thinks this is immature is right.?  So is skateboarding.?  I hate purveyors of good taste.

unfortnuately, i find PC equally annoying.


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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #64 on: August 15, 2012, 11:35:50 AM »
looking forward to the baker\dlx calbo series



but seriously, i wouldn't mind my kids seeing this when they were old enough to skate because they damn sure won't see this or any other iconic vietnam image in thier history books and i think it's important that my kids know about the horrors of war and of our imperalist past (well hopefully it will be past tense by then).


for those of you who offended, is this also offensive and if not then why not?



isn't this also explioting horrors of that war for marketing?
Dont like making fun using a photo of someone clearly suffering, especially if you dont know if they are ok with it. More because i know the full story behind that photo and i cant laugh.

The cover of the rage against is not making fun through the picture and if i am not mistaken they are a strongly political band even though they are mainstream and suck ass. So the cover is part of the anti-system anti-war policy they have???? Yeah its different.

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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #65 on: August 15, 2012, 11:42:12 AM »
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You don't even know what imperialism means.
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for fucks sake, how stupid are the people you are used to regergitating fox talking points too? you been trolling middle schools?


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Secondly, anyone that thinks this is immature is right.?  So is skateboarding.?  I hate purveyors of good taste.
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unfortnuately, i find PC equally annoying.



You are PC, and don't what imperialism means.

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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #66 on: August 15, 2012, 12:00:09 PM »
actually it's you that are confused. you can't tell the difference between someone who doesn't understand a concept and someone who associates that concept with different entities than you.

me thinking that cheney seems like an asshole doesn't mean that if you feel he's a nice guy that i don't understand what it means to be an asshole; it simply means that we differ on who we believe are assholes.

why don't you try and learn something new while you are here or at least have the balls to elevate your arguments above the ad hominem level



not understanding a concept is more like when fox or republicans talk about socialism like it's dichotomous and not continuous

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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #67 on: August 15, 2012, 12:07:12 PM »
actually it's you that are confused. you can't tell the difference between someone who doesn't understand a concept and someone who associates that concept with different entities than you.

me thinking that cheney seems like an asshole doesn't mean that if you feel he's a nice guy that i don't understand what it means to be an asshole; it simply means that we differ on who we believe are assholes.

why don't you try and learn something new while you are here or at least have the balls to elevate your arguments above the ad hominem level



not understanding a concept is more like when fox or republicans talk about socialism like it's dichotomous and not continuous

LOLing at that video.  #Occupy2012

I appreciate your condescension, then posting a Howard Zinn people's history clip as proof of your "knowledge".  Ironically it shows the opposite. Howard Zinn was a charlatan and fanatic, unfit to teach history. People like you lap it up though.
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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #68 on: August 15, 2012, 12:11:23 PM »
yah, anti-hero ad's are great 99% of the time. they tripped a bit on this one.

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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #69 on: August 15, 2012, 12:39:54 PM »
I don't think it's meant to be funny...Anyhow, since when is skateboarding politically correct, and all shiny and pretty?

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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #70 on: August 15, 2012, 01:21:48 PM »
obviously they were trying to be offensive and obviously they succeeded in that. i definitely remember talking with some friends about this ad when it came out.

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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #71 on: August 15, 2012, 01:37:04 PM »
Anti Hero made an ad that offended somebody? Gosh, what is this beautiful world of ours coming to?

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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #72 on: August 15, 2012, 01:38:41 PM »
i think we've established that less thought went into this ad when it was made than we've now poured into it in this thread. it's dumb and poorly judged, but that doesn't mean anti-hero is altogether bullshit. it's still the best american skate company. kinda like when jason jessee flirts with nazi symbols, you have to accept the fact that many great skateboarders didn't finish school/get a job and haven't had to become well adjusted members of society. in anti-hero's case that's what they trade on.

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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #73 on: August 15, 2012, 02:06:29 PM »
I watched an interview with that little napalm girl all grown up, and apparently she wholeheartedly forgives America for being all consuming draconian dickbags: 'the only path to world peace is forgivess', she said.

So even though I'd imagine her being bummed out by this add if she saw it, I'm certain she'd forgive the ones who like it, including myself. I personally don't have any guilt for liking shit that I like. Other than that I don't know why some think it's taboo to laugh at humanity's most humiliating moments. I'm black and I laughed at Dave Chappelle's Roots Blooper skit, as I'm certain the rest of you here have. Blah fucking blah blah.

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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #74 on: August 15, 2012, 02:10:05 PM »
Are there any Anti-Hero ads which had a bigger backlash in America?
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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #75 on: August 15, 2012, 02:49:01 PM »
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Old or not, is this an actual Anti-hero ad? �Where was it run web or magazine?

Mocking innocent Children victim to war is edgy, cool, and apparently funny now?
Do you even know the origins of this photo? �http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc

I know it's sort of Anti-hero's thing to be... well fucking regular, but seriously fuck them. �First mocking the nuclear meltdown caused by the tsunamis and earthquakes in Japan and now this? �Fuck Anti-hero. �Fuck Deluxe and fuck that ex-pig Mic-E Reyes.

The same little fuckers tolerating this shit are the ones who found Baker's racism amusing. �I guess racism and war are funny if it's your favorite skateboarders making the joke! �Grow some fucking balls.
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Have a sense of humour!

People are allowed to have a dark sense of humour. Have you never heard of post modernism, situationism, dada. etc?

You probably found the Gooks of Hazzard shirt offensive too. Bitch!
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You have proven again and again that you are incapable of higher level thought and completely uneducated in social matters.  I'm pretty sure everyone just ignores you at this point, but I will offer a reply in the hopes of influencing someone who is lurking and lacks the ability to place you on their ignore list.  By all means please keep regurgitating your cliched back-woods conservative thoughts though.  You only make anyone whose opinion differs from yours appear that much more intelligent.  Believe me, I am not surprised that someone like you found this ad amusing in the slightest.

I completely agree with you that people are allowed to have a dark sense of humour, but in the same vain I am completely allowed to call them out on this bullshit.  Someone who formerly supported Anti-hero and Deluxe may see this thread and also be fed up with this bullshit.  Deluxe knows this and thats why they always log on the boards to play damage control.  We are lucky that consumers in the skateboard industry have a pretty big voice.  I just wish more skaters would stop being mindless drones and have the balls to stand up when a skater or brand they worship does some fucking bullshit.  You're way more of a bitch for compromising your ideals because you don't want go against what is "cool."  We don't need racism in skateboarding and we certainly don't need to be mocking innocent adolescent war victims.  I don't see how you can willfully give money to a skateboard powerhouse owned by a former cop anyway.  Deluxe does way too much sketchy shit.
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So what exactly is Hentihero?  A parody, an homage?  A rip off?  because this sweatshirt is pretty fucking funny.



Also, is this you?
http://www.youtube.com/user/hentihero


Where can I obtain this hooded sweatshirt? 

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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #76 on: August 15, 2012, 02:54:28 PM »
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actually it's you that are confused. you can't tell the difference between someone who doesn't understand a concept and someone who associates that concept with different entities than you.

me thinking that cheney seems like an asshole doesn't mean that if you feel he's a nice guy that i don't understand what it means to be an asshole; it simply means that we differ on who we believe are assholes.

why don't you try and learn something new while you are here or at least have the balls to elevate your arguments above the ad hominem level



not understanding a concept is more like when fox or republicans talk about socialism like it's dichotomous and not continuous
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LOLing at that video. ? #Occupy2012

I appreciate your condescension, then posting a Howard Zinn people's history clip as proof of your "knowledge".?  Ironically it shows the opposite. Howard Zinn was a charlatan and fanatic, unfit to teach history. People like you lap it up though.

actually you are the one who was being condecending by questioning my intellegence in your reply instead of replying with something of substance; i was being sarcastic in my reply, not condesending. you really think i talk like an asshole all the time? dichotomous??? that's clearly asshole talk.

and actually i prefer james loewen to zinn but zinn's "a peoples history" is a good read. but considering that you are obviously a history buff then what do you recomend for american history?

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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #77 on: August 15, 2012, 03:06:31 PM »

Reminded me of this for obvious reasons.


American soldiers pushing innocent crying childrens forward on skateboards. What could the message be?

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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #78 on: August 15, 2012, 03:09:39 PM »
it's immature shock value, don't overthink it. Skateboarding has as much to do with politics as it does energy drinks. It's all one big sellout, anti hero just tries harder than others to not look like a sellout. This ad being the result of trying to hard.



skateboarding might not have much to do with politics but skate art has to do with art.  i'm not even talking about this particular ad either but i'm sure if you talked to most artists who work in skateboarding (graphics, ads whatever) they take their art seriously to some degree.  skateboarding is one commercial outlet where art has a chance to be more subversive and edgy (maybe less and less, but it's still there).  at the end of the day yeah, it's just skateboards, but when you look back at skate art history there's a treasure trove of interesting things going on
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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #79 on: August 15, 2012, 03:14:08 PM »
LMAO at the people, "fuck you, you suck, stop posting, I can't read your posts." Getting highly offended by text on a screen, but in the same breath, "oh this ad doesn't bother me, I'm so tough..." haha talk about kook shit. Thats the essence of being a kooky hypocrite. "Why can't you all just shut the fuck up, its an Anti-Hero ad!" "Anti-Hero shouldn't have put this ad out!" Same exact thing. "Fuck I have ADD!" Some of you couldn't hang in an art gallery or an art show, that is for sure. "What the fuck are you looking at that picture for! It's a fucking picture!" "I know its a fucking picture, I'm fucking looking at it!" "I look at pictures and fucking look at the next picture like a fucking man!" "Well good for you! I look at pictures and figure out why the fuck they painted the picture for." "What the fuck? Why the fuck would you waste your time doing that? It's a fucking picture." "Well a picture is worth a thousand words..." "Damn. You're a fucking Kook. Fuck you." "Fuck you. You spend more time arguing with me than looking at the pictures, who is the kook?" "Fuck you." "Ok kook. Keep arguing, fucking dick rider." "You're fanning out on the pictures, faggot." "That is what you do at art galleries, you fan out faggot." "You're just a bitch." "Who the fuck are you?" "I'm not a fucking hipster like you." "Now I'm a hipster?" "I just came here for the free drinks." "Thats kook shit bro." "What the fuck are you doing here then fuck head?" "I don't know." "Ok bro..."

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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #80 on: August 15, 2012, 03:51:14 PM »
LMAO at the people, "fuck you, you suck, stop posting, I can't read your posts." Getting highly offended by text on a screen, but in the same breath, "oh this ad doesn't bother me, I'm so tough..." haha talk about kook shit. Thats the essence of being a kooky hypocrite. "Why can't you all just shut the fuck up, its an Anti-Hero ad!" "Anti-Hero shouldn't have put this ad out!" Same exact thing. "Fuck I have ADD!" Some of you couldn't hang in an art gallery or an art show, that is for sure. "What the fuck are you looking at that picture for! It's a fucking picture!" "I know its a fucking picture, I'm fucking looking at it!" "I look at pictures and fucking look at the next picture like a fucking man!" "Well good for you! I look at pictures and figure out why the fuck they painted the picture for." "What the fuck? Why the fuck would you waste your time doing that? It's a fucking picture." "Well a picture is worth a thousand words..." "Damn. You're a fucking Kook. Fuck you." "Fuck you. You spend more time arguing with me than looking at the pictures, who is the kook?" "Fuck you." "Ok kook. Keep arguing, fucking dick rider." "You're fanning out on the pictures, faggot." "That is what you do at art galleries, you fan out faggot." "You're just a bitch." "Who the fuck are you?" "I'm not a fucking hipster like you." "Now I'm a hipster?" "I just came here for the free drinks." "Thats kook shit bro." "What the fuck are you doing here then fuck head?" "I don't know." "Ok bro..."


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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #81 on: August 15, 2012, 04:04:01 PM »
LMAO at the people, "fuck you, you suck, stop posting, I can't read your posts." Getting highly offended by text on a screen, but in the same breath, "oh this ad doesn't bother me, I'm so tough..." haha talk about kook shit. Thats the essence of being a kooky hypocrite. "Why can't you all just shut the fuck up, its an Anti-Hero ad!" "Anti-Hero shouldn't have put this ad out!" Same exact thing. "Fuck I have ADD!" Some of you couldn't hang in an art gallery or an art show, that is for sure. "What the fuck are you looking at that picture for! It's a fucking picture!" "I know its a fucking picture, I'm fucking looking at it!" "I look at pictures and fucking look at the next picture like a fucking man!" "Well good for you! I look at pictures and figure out why the fuck they painted the picture for." "What the fuck? Why the fuck would you waste your time doing that? It's a fucking picture." "Well a picture is worth a thousand words..." "Damn. You're a fucking Kook. Fuck you." "Fuck you. You spend more time arguing with me than looking at the pictures, who is the kook?" "Fuck you." "Ok kook. Keep arguing, fucking dick rider." "You're fanning out on the pictures, faggot." "That is what you do at art galleries, you fan out faggot." "You're just a bitch." "Who the fuck are you?" "I'm not a fucking hipster like you." "Now I'm a hipster?" "I just came here for the free drinks." "Thats kook shit bro." "What the fuck are you doing here then fuck head?" "I don't know." "Ok bro..."

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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #82 on: August 15, 2012, 05:06:13 PM »
Shame on Anti-Hero.  Those guys are older than me.  They should know that ad is fucked up.

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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #83 on: August 15, 2012, 06:17:01 PM »
I think you guys are perceiving the Ad wrong, there should be more ads like this. The truth hurts

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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #84 on: August 15, 2012, 06:41:19 PM »
I can respect artist integrity as well as free speech, but there are some issues that are best left out of skateboard advertising. I mean, who would think it'd be ok if Anti-Hero had a picture of one the World Trade Center towers collapsing and saying something along the lines of "Anti Hero bringin down the house!"?

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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #85 on: August 15, 2012, 07:14:32 PM »
I can respect artist integrity as well as free speech, but there are some issues that are best left out of skateboard advertising. I mean, who would think it'd be ok if Anti-Hero had a picture of one the World Trade Center towers collapsing and saying something along the lines of "Anti Hero bringin down the house!"?

That would be corny.

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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #86 on: August 15, 2012, 08:47:36 PM »
well... I kind of liked it?

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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #87 on: August 15, 2012, 09:34:55 PM »
So the general consensus then is, too soon?

 You and the D00D have turned this thread into a horrible head-on-collision between a short bus full of regular kids and a van full of paraplegics.



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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #88 on: August 15, 2012, 10:29:00 PM »
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Is it funny because its human suffering, or funny because its human suffering on a skateboard? Not saying it shouldn't of been ran or anything, but somebody describe why its funny?
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I don't understand why people think it's supposed to be funny in the first place.  It's Anti-Hero (the little guys) vs. the soldiers (the big, authoritarian guys).  It's the same style Anti-Hero (note the name) has always had.  They're the Travis Bickle of skateboarding in image.  I would honestly love to watch Salo with some of you guys.  We shouldn't be discussing whether or not it's offensive (it's supposed to be), we should be discussing whether or not it's effective (this thread proves it is).  Photoshopping dicks in Berra's mouth (don't stop) is fine, but subverting an iconic image for the umpteenth time is offensive?

I wasn't insinuating the ads intentions, they probably do think of it as anti-war, but several people on the first page said it was funny. I was asking them.

And a penis in Berra's mouth and napalmed children is a ludicrous comparison.

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Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
« Reply #89 on: August 15, 2012, 10:33:34 PM »
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Is it funny because its human suffering, or funny because its human suffering on a skateboard? Not saying it shouldn't of been ran or anything, but somebody describe why its funny?
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I don't understand why people think it's supposed to be funny in the first place.  It's Anti-Hero (the little guys) vs. the soldiers (the big, authoritarian guys).  It's the same style Anti-Hero (note the name) has always had.  They're the Travis Bickle of skateboarding in image.  I would honestly love to watch Salo with some of you guys.  We shouldn't be discussing whether or not it's offensive (it's supposed to be), we should be discussing whether or not it's effective (this thread proves it is).  Photoshopping dicks in Berra's mouth (don't stop) is fine, but subverting an iconic image for the umpteenth time is offensive?
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I wasn't insinuating the ads intentions, they probably do think of it as anti-war, but several people on the first page said it was funny. I was asking them.

And a penis in Berra's mouth and napalmed children is a ludicrous comparison.
But a napalmed Berra with a dick in his mouth would be funny.