new balance enters skate shoe arena

[zuma]

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With New Balance, and now this, it's pretty safe to say Black Box is really hurting for money.

This is upsetting, because that means Slave will probably be the first company to get put down.

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Am I the only one who thinks that logo kind of looks like a nazi SS under the tongue?

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Black Box is always doing some suspect racist things.

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i have also noticed this... *strokes chin*

if you take the fallen logo apart you can form a swastika...

[heckler]

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Fuck you, Jamie Thomas. I hope that this fails and that Fallen goes out of business within the next year.

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I agree with the fuck Jamie Thomas, but isn't the whole point of keeping companies like new balance out of the skateboarding industry is to keep brands like fallen alive?
 

Not for a greedy bastard like him. Fallen is just as bad as New Balance now, in my opinion.

[Fastfreddy]

Will someone put kyle berard on! for the love of god, the guy does more for skateboarding than most dudes out there!

[S.E.]

So you bash Jamie for supporting a corporate companies involvement in skating yet Busenitz and kenny anderson are core as fuck?....please explain the logic

[Zurg]

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I believe this is relevant to this topic:

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With New Balance, and now this, it's pretty safe to say Black Box is really hurting for money.

This is upsetting, because that means Slave will probably be the first company to get put down.

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Am I the only one who thinks that logo kind of looks like a nazi SS under the tongue?

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Black Box is always doing some suspect racist things.

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i have also noticed this... *strokes chin*

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if you take the fallen logo apart you can form a swastika...

if you wear that fallen shoe backwards it transmits a satanic message, or a santanic guitar lick. i cant remember which

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So you guys didn't think Fallen was corny before? Damn

[apad88]

So you guys didn't think Fallen was corny before? Damn

not corny, just misunderstood

[asakusa75]

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So you guys didn't think Fallen was corny before? Damn

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not corny, just misunderstood

This picture makes me mad.

[Houseshoes]

Its just a phase. Those fallens are straight up neo nazi

[apad88]

Jamie Thomas does come off as skinhead

[Iceman]

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I'm pretty interested in the production ethics of these shoes. If they're slavery free it would actually mean more to me than supporting the "nowadays called core businesses"

not that I would rather support a company owned and runned by skaters vs. a corporate company but buying shoes that are not made by little kids in China or Korea vs. shoes made in America would rather get my support.

Does anyone know about the prodction process? I think earlier on it said that Black Box would take care of production and not N.B. itself?

[vegan*shawn]

I thought Korea working conditions where good compared to China??

[heckler]

So you bash Jamie for supporting a corporate companies involvement in skating yet Busenitz and kenny anderson are core as fuck?....please explain the logic

I'm not gonna fault those guys for getting a paycheck, but I am gonna fault Jamie Thomas for actively welcoming another non-skating company into the shoe market and making things harder for other companies that are already struggling, especially since he's got a shoe company of his own and should know what having a smaller company is like.

[BigMoe]

Walk it out Jamie

[Cthulhu!]

Jamie Thomas does come off as skinhead

[Iceman]

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So you bash Jamie for supporting a corporate companies involvement in skating yet Busenitz and kenny anderson are core as fuck?....please explain the logic

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I'm not gonna fault those guys for getting a paycheck, but I am gonna fault Jamie Thomas for actively welcoming another non-skating company into the shoe market and making things harder for other companies that are already struggling, especially since he's got a shoe company of his own and should know what having a smaller company is like.

Not for nothing, there's some cognitive dissonance going on right there. Buse, KA and whomever chose to ride for a corporate company over a skater owned company are doing just as much damage as Jamie is.

[White Owl]

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PJ
jake Johnson
Tom K

keep an eye out

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Uh oh....slap just went from hate to love. Believe it!

Jake Johnson and Tom K are two of my favorites, but even with dudes like this on there team i still dont think i will ever like New Balance...

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PJ
jake Johnson
Tom K

keep an eye out

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Uh oh....slap just went from hate to love. Believe it!

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Jake Johnson and Tom K are two of my favorites, but even with dudes like this on there team i still dont think i will ever like New Balance...

i feel the exact same way. those 3 guys are definately in my top 10 but i couldnt bring myself to buy into NB.
lakai or die.

[Big Skatefase]

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So you bash Jamie for supporting a corporate companies involvement in skating yet Busenitz and kenny anderson are core as fuck?....please explain the logic

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I'm not gonna fault those guys for getting a paycheck, but I am gonna fault Jamie Thomas for actively welcoming another non-skating company into the shoe market and making things harder for other companies that are already struggling, especially since he's got a shoe company of his own and should know what having a smaller company is like.

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Not for nothing, there's some cognitive dissonance going on right there. Buse, KA and whomever chose to ride for a corporate company over a skater owned company are doing just as much damage as Jamie is.

i don't understand why people don't hold skaters and the industry responsible as a whole. "they're just doing it for a paycheck"...so they is sellouts then?   just keep it 1hunna. they really don't give a shit about the industry. as long as the checks keep rollin in they good.

what pros (and the industry) choose to support has an effect on the landscape of da "industry".

i think some you guys underestimate da influence pros have on kids (who are da core consumer demographic). kids see their favorite pros rockin "corporate" shoes and they gonna want to pick em up for themselves.

real tallk they just as guilty as jamie for this shit.

[Iceman]

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So you bash Jamie for supporting a corporate companies involvement in skating yet Busenitz and kenny anderson are core as fuck?....please explain the logic

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I'm not gonna fault those guys for getting a paycheck, but I am gonna fault Jamie Thomas for actively welcoming another non-skating company into the shoe market and making things harder for other companies that are already struggling, especially since he's got a shoe company of his own and should know what having a smaller company is like.

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Not for nothing, there's some cognitive dissonance going on right there. Buse, KA and whomever chose to ride for a corporate company over a skater owned company are doing just as much damage as Jamie is.

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i don't understand why people don't hold skaters and the industry responsible as a whole. "they're just doing it for a paycheck"...so they is sellouts then?   just keep it 1hunna. they really don't give a shit about the industry. as long as the checks keep rollin in they good.

what pros (and the industry) choose to support has an effect on the landscape of da "industry".

i think some you guys underestimate da influence pros have on kids (who are da core consumer demographic). kids see their favorite pros rockin "corporate" shoes and they gonna want to pick em up for themselves.

real tallk they just as guilty as jame for this shit.

Man knows what's up.

[NowhereInLife]

real talk if nb came out with a shoe i liked tomorrow, i would get them as as soon as i could catch them on sale (i paid full price for kostons once, but they are sitting under my bed because i'm too disgusted with myself for paying full for any shoe to ride them, not to say i'm not looking forward to it).  i really don't care what dumb pro (no disrespect) that has zero to do with my actual life is pushing them or not. And you know know this is true for most of skatedom regardless of whatever bullshit fake core bullsquash they may spout intially.  look at nike, cons, adidas... you all eatin that shit up mmm mmm good.  matterafact, i'd run those red white and blue shits if the felt right and be swetted i'm sure.


free tony pops.

[jerrys_kids]

real talk if nb came out with a shoe i liked tomorrow, i would get them as as soon as i could catch them on sale (i paid full price for kostons once, but they are sitting under my bed because i'm too disgusted with myself for paying full for any shoe to ride them, not to say i'm not looking forward to it).  i really don't care what dumb pro (no disrespect) that has zero to do with my actual life is pushing them or not. And you know know this is true for most of skatedom regardless of whatever bullshit fake core bullsquash they may spout intially.  look at nike, cons, adidas... you all eatin that shit up mmm mmm good.  matterafact, i'd run those red white and blue shits if the felt right and be swetted i'm sure.


free tony pops.

you may not but the point he was trying to make is that some people do, specifically younger kids. I mean a few years back I know everyone saw at least one kid (probably more like 100) around town with an element deck, a heartagram shirt, and adios because they liked bam, doesn't mean the majority of the skate world did, and I'm sure that most people on slap don't, but most the people who skate aren't like the people on slap. I think sometimes we tend to forget that what we like isn't always what everyone else will like, especially young impressionable kids who like stupid stuff.

[Chipp]

real talk if nb came out with a shoe i liked tomorrow, i would get them as as soon as i could catch them on sale (i paid full price for kostons once, but they are sitting under my bed because i'm too disgusted with myself for paying full for any shoe to ride them, not to say i'm not looking forward to it).  i really don't care what dumb pro (no disrespect) that has zero to do with my actual life is pushing them or not. And you know know this is true for most of skatedom regardless of whatever bullshit fake core bullsquash they may spout intially.  look at nike, cons, adidas... you all eatin that shit up mmm mmm good.  matterafact, i'd run those red white and blue shits if the felt right and be swetted i'm sure.


free tony pops.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA i didn't anything you wrote after "real talk" I'm just going to go out on a limb here and say shut up though

[Dishonest John]

[augustmoon]

sheesh, here we go again...

[apad88]

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sheesh, here we go again...

fuck them, obviously no one gives a shit about or their gay little logos and campaign slogans. they can make all the little signs they want and it's not changing shit.

[vegan*shawn]

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sheesh, here we go again...

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fuck them, obviously no one gives a shit about or their gay little logos and campaign slogans. they can make all the little signs they want and it's not changing shit.

Alan Peterson would rip you limb from limb....

[apad88]

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sheesh, here we go again...

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fuck them, obviously no one gives a shit about or their gay little logos and campaign slogans. they can make all the little signs they want and it's not changing shit.

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Alan Peterson would rip you limb from limb....

he makes gay signs

[pica]

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sheesh, here we go again...

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fuck them, obviously no one gives a shit about or their gay little logos and campaign slogans. they can make all the little signs they want and it's not changing shit.

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Alan Peterson would rip you limb from limb....

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he makes gay signs

if only two or three skaters decide not to buy nike/adidas/converse/NB any more the entire campaign is worth it. also Karma Tsocheff would rip you as well.