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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5610 on: January 11, 2024, 08:17:01 AM »
All this talk of shapes has made me realise that I've only been skating conical fulls in 54mm since 2015. I'm pretty sure I only went that route because I liked the shape visually.

Right now I'm skating only indoor wooden bowls/park and is it worth changing to something else? I have absolutely zero slip issues with the conical fulls, they don't even slide when I want them to.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5611 on: January 11, 2024, 09:59:18 AM »
For those 5 people that like bones v5, Ricta 'Mids' are the same shape albeit wider.

All this talk of shapes has made me realise that I've only been skating conical fulls in 54mm since 2015. I'm pretty sure I only went that route because I liked the shape visually.

Right now I'm skating only indoor wooden park and is it worth changing to something else? I have absolutely zero slip issues with the conical fulls, they don't even slide when I want them to.



Is there anything wrong with your skating that could be solved with different shaped wheels?

If it works, don't fix it.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5612 on: January 11, 2024, 10:08:10 AM »
For those 5 people that like bones v5, Ricta 'Mids' are the same shape albeit wider.

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All this talk of shapes has made me realise that I've only been skating conical fulls in 54mm since 2015. I'm pretty sure I only went that route because I liked the shape visually.

Right now I'm skating only indoor wooden park and is it worth changing to something else? I have absolutely zero slip issues with the conical fulls, they don't even slide when I want them to.


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Is there anything wrong with your skating that could be solved with different shaped wheels?

If it works, don't fix it.

Issues I have are I can't ollie for shit and I don't quite go as fast as I like. Neither really need different wheels to solve ;D thanks for stopping the potential madness.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5613 on: January 11, 2024, 10:46:10 AM »
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For those 5 people that like bones v5, Ricta 'Mids' are the same shape albeit wider.

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All this talk of shapes has made me realise that I've only been skating conical fulls in 54mm since 2015. I'm pretty sure I only went that route because I liked the shape visually.

Right now I'm skating only indoor wooden park and is it worth changing to something else? I have absolutely zero slip issues with the conical fulls, they don't even slide when I want them to.


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Is there anything wrong with your skating that could be solved with different shaped wheels?

If it works, don't fix it.
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Issues I have are I can't ollie for shit and I don't quite go as fast as I like. Neither really need different wheels to solve ;D thanks for stopping the potential madness.


Correct answer: work on your ollies and go faster

Madness answer: bigger wheels would help both of those issues ;)


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5615 on: January 16, 2024, 03:45:49 PM »
I love how the 66s make the 60s look small. Glad they aren't priced overly high.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5616 on: January 16, 2024, 04:38:29 PM »
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They will not be out here for a while yet, but it is funny to think 43 mm (1992-1993) through 66.6 mm (1997-1998) so yeah, the 90s were a funny time in skateboarding.

At least that was my take on the timeline of some of those sizes.

Anyone else got a different thought as to when they were in their prime / when they got really big for the super small and super big sizes?


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5617 on: January 16, 2024, 05:49:52 PM »
I love how the 66s make the 60s look small. Glad they aren't priced overly high.

Would be nice to see the Lil Beatdowns in more the Lil' Smokie price range.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5618 on: January 16, 2024, 06:21:26 PM »
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5619 on: January 16, 2024, 07:14:31 PM »

Add V5's as Sandy out there running with Spongebob and Patrick....

V5's are a great Radial Slim.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5620 on: January 16, 2024, 07:39:07 PM »
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They will not be out here for a while yet, but it is funny to think 43 mm (1992-1993) through 66.6 mm (1997-1998) so yeah, the 90s were a funny time in skateboarding.

At least that was my take on the timeline of some of those sizes.

Anyone else got a different thought as to when they were in their prime / when they got really big for the super small and super big sizes?

seems about right. i skated for a few years as a little kid, bones brigade era, tragically quit, and then restarted in 1994? whenever 411 vm #6 was. first setup had 44.5 spitfires, on recommendation from the shop, to not use something ‘too small’. by 1998, ish (when did osiris first start? that year), i was skating a setup with 60 mm spitfire classics. the wide ones. there were some interesting moments with gear, as we upgraded components as we could.
maybe i have it wrong in my mind, but i remember loving drake jones’ skating, and wanting indy’s because of him. decks were 7.5, but in my memory, indy wasn’t offering a 129 at that time.
then we got the narrow trucks, but EE3 came out, and we needed the big, big wheels, so then it was these really tippy setups.

oh. another dumbass thing i did was i’d skate riser, or ‘shock pads’, on every setup. 54s? cool, got my risers. and for 52s. and then for 60s. etc.

every now and then a friend would get a board from a sponsored skater, and we’d all marvel at how insane an 8” deck looked.
that era was a lot more interesting, compared to say 2003ish-2010, were people went on autopilot and skated the same ish shit.

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« Reply #5621 on: January 16, 2024, 07:45:12 PM »
66mms were a mid 80s thing.



The Big Wheel revival in the mid  90s maxed out at about 63mm with Matt Reason.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5622 on: January 17, 2024, 08:02:43 AM »
Quick back story - My Local is like 60 min drive from my house - it used to be a skatepark but closed during covid now its a guy running it out of his garage. he told me he is not going to be ordering spitfires next time because they will be $90 and hes only making like $5  :'(
Also, within the past week or so, Zumiez that was only like 30 min from my house has also closed down. They have lots of F4 classics on sale still for $50 which is $20 off and spitfires seem to never go on sale around here. I might order 2 sets of Spitfires from Zumiez to put on ice just to keep me going for the next few years  :-X
I reallllly love spitfire wheels and want to support DLX. but that is probably getting to the point its too much if I will be able to get decent wheels at like 1/2 the price or even less and they are working for me I will have no choice but to change probably  :'(

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5623 on: January 17, 2024, 08:28:39 AM »
Bones really is winning by keeping their prices the same over the last few years. Also the new x formula is a legit alternative to F4.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5624 on: January 17, 2024, 08:30:01 AM »
Are the F4 97a good for indoor skatelite? My local indoor park is slick asf on hard wheels so I'm trying to find a good option without going too crazy soft.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5625 on: January 17, 2024, 08:43:06 AM »
Bones really is winning by keeping their prices the same over the last few years. Also the new x formula is a legit alternative to F4.
Couldn't agree more, + Bones offers more shapes that are not available on Spits.
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« Reply #5626 on: January 17, 2024, 12:44:41 PM »
Quick back story - My Local is like 60 min drive from my house - it used to be a skatepark but closed during covid now its a guy running it out of his garage. he told me he is not going to be ordering spitfires next time because they will be $90 and hes only making like $5  :'(
Also, within the past week or so, Zumiez that was only like 30 min from my house has also closed down. They have lots of F4 classics on sale still for $50 which is $20 off and spitfires seem to never go on sale around here. I might order 2 sets of Spitfires from Zumiez to put on ice just to keep me going for the next few years  :-X
I reallllly love spitfire wheels and want to support DLX. but that is probably getting to the point its too much if I will be able to get decent wheels at like 1/2 the price or even less and they are working for me I will have no choice but to change probably  :'(

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5627 on: January 17, 2024, 05:35:04 PM »
Quick back story - My Local is like 60 min drive from my house - it used to be a skatepark but closed during covid now its a guy running it out of his garage. he told me he is not going to be ordering spitfires next time because they will be $90 and hes only making like $5  :'(
Also, within the past week or so, Zumiez that was only like 30 min from my house has also closed down. They have lots of F4 classics on sale still for $50 which is $20 off and spitfires seem to never go on sale around here. I might order 2 sets of Spitfires from Zumiez to put on ice just to keep me going for the next few years  :-X
I reallllly love spitfire wheels and want to support DLX. but that is probably getting to the point its too much if I will be able to get decent wheels at like 1/2 the price or even less and they are working for me I will have no choice but to change probably  :'(


For the people who buy whatever they want whenever they want, hats off to you sir.  For everyone else who is living on a budget and trying to make ends meet and seeing the price of things like Spitfire wheels keep going up and up, I would say be smart about your spending, so if you see some on a good special / decent % off discount or whatever, go for it and stock up if or where you can so you do have wheels to get you through, compared to being on one set and no back ups, so if you need a new set, you have to pay full price from where ever you can get them, be it at their door or shipped.

I have dealt with and been in both situations, so now I gotta say I always have backups of anything I like to skate, use, wear, etc.

That is just me though.



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Bones really is winning by keeping their prices the same over the last few years. Also the new x formula is a legit alternative to F4.
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Couldn't agree more, + Bones offers more shapes that are not available on Spits.


If I had to, the only other wheel I would recommend and use are Bones, besides Spitfire Formula Four wheels, so for anyone who might be suffering as above, definitely check out what Bones offer in terms of price, shape, availability.

An unpopular opinion and to be very blunt about it, but any and all other brands of wheels in the current market, no matter how cheap I think are just not worth it.  Sure other people are riding them and are happy, but I would say Spitfire or Bones, then everything else and there is a big enough gap between them that it does make a difference.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5628 on: January 17, 2024, 06:13:27 PM »
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Bones really is winning by keeping their prices the same over the last few years. Also the new x formula is a legit alternative to F4.
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Couldn't agree more, + Bones offers more shapes that are not available on Spits.


If I had to, the only other wheel I would recommend and use are Bones, besides Spitfire Formula Four wheels, so for anyone who might be suffering as above, definitely check out what Bones offer in terms of price, shape, availability.

An unpopular opinion and to be very blunt about it, but any and all other brands of wheels in the current market, no matter how cheap I think are just not worth it.  Sure other people are riding them and are happy, but I would say Spitfire or Bones, then everything else and there is a big enough gap between them that it does make a difference.
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You never realize how good Bones / Spitfire are until you ride something that isn't Bones / Spitfire. They end up being serviceable at best and slippery + sticky + flatspot-y at worst.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5629 on: January 17, 2024, 06:21:40 PM »
i got my first set of formula fours on monday even though ive been a spitfire soldier for a good year and a bit, 52mm Conicals. Holy fuck why have I been sleeping on these for so god damn long.

Curious though, how do you guys adapt to the change in the angle of pop? I'm coming from some worn in bigheads. I got em on Venture Lo 5.2 on 8.3 BBS which is medium all around. I usually prefer steep kicks but my current deck rota is flat cunts right now

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5630 on: January 17, 2024, 06:24:53 PM »
I'd throw in
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Quick back story - My Local is like 60 min drive from my house - it used to be a skatepark but closed during covid now its a guy running it out of his garage. he told me he is not going to be ordering spitfires next time because they will be $90 and hes only making like $5  :'(
Also, within the past week or so, Zumiez that was only like 30 min from my house has also closed down. They have lots of F4 classics on sale still for $50 which is $20 off and spitfires seem to never go on sale around here. I might order 2 sets of Spitfires from Zumiez to put on ice just to keep me going for the next few years  :-X
I reallllly love spitfire wheels and want to support DLX. but that is probably getting to the point its too much if I will be able to get decent wheels at like 1/2 the price or even less and they are working for me I will have no choice but to change probably  :'(
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For the people who buy whatever they want whenever they want, hats off to you sir.  For everyone else who is living on a budget and trying to make ends meet and seeing the price of things like Spitfire wheels keep going up and up, I would say be smart about your spending, so if you see some on a good special / decent % off discount or whatever, go for it and stock up if or where you can so you do have wheels to get you through, compared to being on one set and no back ups, so if you need a new set, you have to pay full price from where ever you can get them, be it at their door or shipped.

I have dealt with and been in both situations, so now I gotta say I always have backups of anything I like to skate, use, wear, etc.

That is just me though.



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Bones really is winning by keeping their prices the same over the last few years. Also the new x formula is a legit alternative to F4.
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Couldn't agree more, + Bones offers more shapes that are not available on Spits.
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If I had to, the only other wheel I would recommend and use are Bones, besides Spitfire Formula Four wheels, so for anyone who might be suffering as above, definitely check out what Bones offer in terms of price, shape, availability.

An unpopular opinion and to be very blunt about it, but any and all other brands of wheels in the current market, no matter how cheap I think are just not worth it.  Sure other people are riding them and are happy, but I would say Spitfire or Bones, then everything else and there is a big enough gap between them that it does make a difference.



They each offer the same amount of shapes with six each (not counting spits full variants or the dearly departed radial / classic slims) but bones offers what spit doesn't: more variety for thin wheels, e.g., V1s, V2s (their radial slim) and V3s and arguably less overlap in their wider sizes - not everyone wants to heshride 60mm Radial Fulls for the Dolores Hill bomb you know?

The only other wheels I would toss into the mix is OJ Elite 101a in the hardline shape if you need something that feels normal like a spit (over bones feel) but isn't glassy like spit 101s/SPFs for smooth park skating; or Ricta Naturals if you like hard, chirpy, white wheels in shapes similar to bones (Ricta Mids = v5, Ricta Slims = V1s, Ricta Round = V4 Wide, etc), that feel closer to older STFs/F1s but_don't_flat.

It's hard not to just dip for F4s, if they made an F4 V5 it would be my hard wheel of choice (yes, even over you sweet radial slim).
 

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5631 on: January 18, 2024, 05:54:05 AM »
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Bones really is winning by keeping their prices the same over the last few years. Also the new x formula is a legit alternative to F4.
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Couldn't agree more, + Bones offers more shapes that are not available on Spits.
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If I had to, the only other wheel I would recommend and use are Bones, besides Spitfire Formula Four wheels, so for anyone who might be suffering as above, definitely check out what Bones offer in terms of price, shape, availability.

An unpopular opinion and to be very blunt about it, but any and all other brands of wheels in the current market, no matter how cheap I think are just not worth it.  Sure other people are riding them and are happy, but I would say Spitfire or Bones, then everything else and there is a big enough gap between them that it does make a difference.

You never realize how good Bones / Spitfire are until you ride something that isn't Bones / Spitfire. They end up being serviceable at best and slippery + sticky + flatspot-y at worst.
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Truth be told.
Tried, out of boredom, some Dial Tones and they are ok but I think they already flat spotted in 2 sessions and the feel is just off.
Spits or Bones, nothing else unless you got it for free.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5632 on: January 18, 2024, 07:25:35 AM »
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Bones really is winning by keeping their prices the same over the last few years. Also the new x formula is a legit alternative to F4.
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Couldn't agree more, + Bones offers more shapes that are not available on Spits.
[close]


If I had to, the only other wheel I would recommend and use are Bones, besides Spitfire Formula Four wheels, so for anyone who might be suffering as above, definitely check out what Bones offer in terms of price, shape, availability.

An unpopular opinion and to be very blunt about it, but any and all other brands of wheels in the current market, no matter how cheap I think are just not worth it.  Sure other people are riding them and are happy, but I would say Spitfire or Bones, then everything else and there is a big enough gap between them that it does make a difference.
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You never realize how good Bones / Spitfire are until you ride something that isn't Bones / Spitfire. They end up being serviceable at best and slippery + sticky + flatspot-y at worst.
Truth be told.
Tried, out of boredom, some Dial Tones and they are ok but I think they already flat spotted in 2 sessions and the feel is just off.
Spits or Bones, nothing else unless you got it for free.
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Creative is a distant 3rd, would ride them over NHS stuff, but even they are prone to flatspots. You can definitely ride them out over time but I'd rather have 1 less thing to worry about.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5633 on: January 18, 2024, 08:06:24 AM »
Damn! This wheels are already for sale?

I'm fuckin fucked.

You guys think I should beg um to send me a set before it's too late?

I fuckin hate asking for product. I feel like hmmmm I never really did anything for those guys yet and I shouldn't ask

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5634 on: January 18, 2024, 08:17:20 AM »
66mms were a mid 80s thing.



The Big Wheel revival in the mid  90s maxed out at about 63mm with Matt Reason.


Exactly what I was thinking about.

66 mm with some bad ass war paint.  I like to think about Philips. He was for 100 my favorite vert guy when I was a kid.

I had his boards I had the wheels I had the trucks. Didn't have the helmet tho I wanted it. I've never had safety gear.

I bail in the half pipe I'm going to hip or running down it.

I got the screw head scars all over me.

Screws can be like little mini ice cream scoopers for hip meats.

Become blood bros with the whole crew in one bail.

Super fun

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« Reply #5635 on: January 18, 2024, 08:26:59 AM »
62s alone are going to open up so many new opertunes.

I think I'd like to see Pedro ride um. GT ride um.

I really wanna see Peter Hewitt ride um. I remember he rode the 66 too. Probably big balls as well. Lol. Definitely actually.

I hope it works out. I know I could use um

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5636 on: January 18, 2024, 08:27:54 AM »
Quad post cuz I'm fuckin tripping

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5637 on: January 18, 2024, 08:30:22 AM »
I skated tons of wheels, black label, stereo, popwar, element, DGK, Chocolate, autobahn, satori, OJ, mini logo, Alien workshop, ccs, blanks, shop wheels, and tons of Ricta before I touched Bones or Spitfire and it was still night and day.

imagine if a brand like SNOT had access to Spit or Bones urethane

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5638 on: January 18, 2024, 09:09:19 AM »
I skated tons of wheels, black label, stereo, popwar, element, DGK, Chocolate, autobahn, satori, OJ, mini logo, Alien workshop, ccs, blanks, shop wheels, and tons of Ricta before I touched Bones or Spitfire and it was still night and day.

imagine if a brand like SNOT had access to Spit or Bones urethane
We would have a 60mm contact surface
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #5639 on: January 18, 2024, 09:15:39 AM »
I've been so satisfied with F4s since they came out I have zero temptation to try anything else. Madness cured on that front.

Soft wheels are another matter though...