Quartersnacks article on "indie" skate videos

[bust.factor]

"Well, physical skate videos are not dead. Apple may have made it tougher to author them, but since when has antiquated technology stopped skaters? These are the people who pour thousands of dollars each year into repairing and maintaining a camera released in 1996. Skate videos are good for at least another 20 years."

http://quartersnacks.com/2013/02/winter-indie-video-round-up-sabotage-3-oslo-5-home-grown-debris-mamas-boys-cosmic-vomit-2/

[s a d e]

COSTA always with the true knowledge

[JB]

do kids who are just discovering skating now even care about physical copies any more? or is it just us who grew up watching videos on VHS?

I dont know if i would've been calling the skate shop every single day for a week and a half asking if "this is skateboarding" had came in yet, then begging my parents to drive me and the $20 in fives and ones that id been saving up to the shop at age 13 if i could've logged onto youtube and hellaclips and watched free videos until my eyes bled.

[gnarcore]

suchalow bust factor.. so damn low

[JARVISblow]

do kids who are just discovering skating now even care about physical copies any more? or is it just us who grew up watching videos on VHS?

I dont know if i would've been calling the skate shop every single day for a week and a half asking if "this is skateboarding" had came in yet, then begging my parents to drive me and the $20 in fives and ones that id been saving up to the shop at age 13 if i could've logged onto youtube and hellaclips and watched free videos until my eyes bled.

[slapshakle]

do kids who are just discovering skating now even care about physical copies any more? or is it just us who grew up watching videos on VHS?

Pretty much this. I don't think I know anyone under 20 with more than 5 dvds. I've even had a few people ask me why I have a copy of the new Think video when I can just watch it for free on youtube. Motherfuckers are missing out watching it on a big tv with surround sound. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

[jacktharipper]

I always remember hoping when I'd buy a vid that there would be stickers inside the sleeve. To the hard copy purists, do you still purchase the hard copy albums of the bands/artists you listen to?

[EARL***THE***PEARL]

Yes....if it's a worthy artist I'll glady acquire the tangible copy.

[stickman1980]

getting the completed video OFF OF THE COMPUTER and IN YOUR HANDS is a big accomplishment, in my mind at least. it's different then getting it online or whatever, which is good too, but it's no fun to sit around and watch a video on the computer with your homies compared to having the hard copy and firing it up on the big screen then watching it on repeat to keep the hype goin pre or post session. just my one cents. maybe they touch on this in the article, I should've probably read it first but I'm interested/passionate about this issue. thanks Slap Pals.

[wallieD]

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do kids who are just discovering skating now even care about physical copies any more? or is it just us who grew up watching videos on VHS?

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Pretty much this. I don't think I know anyone under 20 with more than 5 dvds. I've even had a few people ask me why I have a copy of the new Think video when I can just watch it for free on youtube. Motherfuckers are missing out watching it on a big tv with surround sound. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

to me a small youtube video makes the skating appear faster and the spots look bigger
on the big screen it's more realistic...which can turn out better or worse. there were some painfully slow clips in BONEYARD that i only noticed when i saw it on tv (still a great video though)

[HoudiniXLogic]

I sometimes wonder if I'm the only dude here with a flatscreen TV that has a USB input. I just download videos online onto thumbdrives and then watch them on my TV, but then again I guess I went through the trouble of having to buy a flatscreen and then buy more 16 - 32GB thumbdrives and a sound system just to somehow suit my nostalgic viewing needs. My skate video nostalgia is sitting on a couch at least 6 ft away from the screen, rolling js on the coffee table and some munchables and a tech deck and whatnot. I guess when the kids these days grow up, their video nostalgia will mainly be chillin with the homies huddled around a laptop screen.

The first time I watched Ride the Sky like 5 years ago I was chillin with the homies appartment in which he designed the room to have his bed and the couch with the coffee table for homies to relax and watch the video. I guess kids would remember the first time they watched Transworld Hallelujah, they were all hunched around a 13-inch macbook.

[JB]

I always remember hoping when I'd buy a vid that there would be stickers inside the sleeve. To the hard copy purists, do you still purchase the hard copy albums of the bands/artists you listen to?

i still open the dvd cases as soon as i get in the car hoping theres a sticker inside, and im almost 25 years old.

[JB]

they made one point in the article about how apple is making it harder for people to make dvds by removing the cd/dvd drive from their laptops, but this made no sense to me. say the dude who made sabotage 3 (or any video really) edited it on his macbook. do you think he physically sat at his desk and burnt every single copy of it to dvd from his laptop? hell no. aint nobody got time fo dat! i dont know how they do it, but im sure they send it out to some company who prints the cases and the cd labels as well as burns them.

[KennedyPowers]

i feel like the main thing isn't the hard copy or actual dvd but that it is being able to watch media on your tv in a relaxed fashion, while sitting on the couch, chilling with crew, watever. Now many of us may already do this, u can download clips or videos from thrasher in .mp4 and usb stic that shit in your xbox and bang full screen quality watever its nice specially with the full length videos.

i guess the other aspect of the hard copy is that u revisit the video, which has many benefits. i feel like all tv's will start to play most formats widely available on the internet so people will have their collections on a usb stick or specifically designed ipod type device that will plug into your tv and play anything you may have (like a mini media player).

skate videos will have to be payed for by product placement and advertising - basically as they are now, the product has to be part of the video anyway bcos the product is skateboards and shoes and bro style grip tape.

[Gil]

they made one point in the article about how apple is making it harder for people to make dvds by removing the cd/dvd drive from their laptops, but this made no sense to me. say the dude who made sabotage 3 (or any video really) edited it on his macbook. do you think he physically sat at his desk and burnt every single copy of it to dvd from his laptop? hell no. aint nobody got time fo dat! i dont know how they do it, but im sure they send it out to some company who prints the cases and the cd labels as well as burns them.

You're right. Normally you do hire a company to perform the DVD replication/duplication. But usually you do have to have a master copy of the DVD for them to copy from.

That being said, Apple is making it harder because with Final Cut Pro X, they chose to axe DVD Studio Pro. That is how you do the DVD Authoring... combining all of your elements: menus, buttons, chapters, bonus features, etc.

When I asked a dude at the Apple Store why DVDSP wasn't available any longer, he basically said that the DVD is dead, and that Apple realizes that more and more people will prefer to use their computers to watch movies.

[SKATE DAD]

do kids who are just discovering skating now even care about physical copies any more? or is it just us who grew up watching videos on VHS?

I dont know if i would've been calling the skate shop every single day for a week and a half asking if "this is skateboarding" had came in yet, then begging my parents to drive me and the $20 in fives and ones that id been saving up to the shop at age 13 if i could've logged onto youtube and hellaclips and watched free videos until my eyes bled.

It depends on the video. My son buys DVD's for a couple reasons. DVD's have the extras on them. He wants to invest in something that he has been anticipating for a long time. And lastly, the video will mean more to him.

[JB]

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do kids who are just discovering skating now even care about physical copies any more? or is it just us who grew up watching videos on VHS?

I dont know if i would've been calling the skate shop every single day for a week and a half asking if "this is skateboarding" had came in yet, then begging my parents to drive me and the $20 in fives and ones that id been saving up to the shop at age 13 if i could've logged onto youtube and hellaclips and watched free videos until my eyes bled.

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It depends on the video. My son buys DVD's for a couple reasons. DVD's have the extras on them. He wants to invest in something that he has been anticipating for a long time. And lastly, the video will mean more to him.

Thats pretty awesome. And I'm sure you had some influence on his desire to own the DVD's rather than to download videos online. I know when I have kids theyre going to be raised on my favorite videos from my 200 some collection. I just hope it wont be a hassle to be able to play them in the future. Last weekend my girlfriend agreed to watch Yeah Right with me and I had to lug over my old tube TV with a built in VCR just to play it. Totally worth it though.