are there such things as front overcrooks

[Ian Dziallo]

When I first started skating I thought they existed because THPS told me so, but then every skater says they don't exist, so I just tend to call them all nosegrinds.

[EPetrov]

try to a FS nosegrind on a rail without having it tweaked

[friendly dave]

4:25

[cheeky]

Whoever thinks that there is such thing as an overcrook needs to post a link of someone nosegrinding a round rail then....

[Tuna]

I'd like to think that they could exist, but I can't be sure when the nosegrind stops and the overcrook begins.

[Energy Turtle]

4:25

colt's the exception. everything else is null

[silkyjohnson]

no

[KUberry]

So a crooked grind is basically a bs nosegrind then, right? Just going off the apparent logic here.  If it's the front truck no matter what it's just a nosegrind.

[AsianVegan]

It's pretty flawed logic, never seen a straight nose grind, seen a million tweaked nose grinds yet there's no such thing as an front overcrook - it'd make more sense to argue the opposite. It's redundant, and probably only applies to round rails.

[Iceman]

I asked Santa for no more pointless threads.

I got a rock.

[StabMasterArson]

In "anthology" MJ talks about going back with Channy so he can land his "backside noseblunt grind"

[Sleazy]

rails, no
ledges, yes

[Chris]

rails, no
ledges, yes

[Monkey_Mcpott]

I dontknow where the original theres no such thing as front overcrook statement came from but it really doesn't make sense. Yes Colt did a legit balanced nosegrind down a square rail but i just dont get how the bs overcrook exist but its not Ok to say Fs overcrook. They are the exact parallel counterpart to each other.

[Donkey Lips]

Must use a protractor to provide precise proof of 60/120 degree angle to the rail or else it doesn't count.

[Iceman]

I dontknow where the original theres no such thing as front overcrook statement came from but it really doesn't make sense. Yes Colt did a legit balanced nosegrind down a square rail but i just dont get how the bs overcrook exist but its not Ok to say Fs overcrook. They are the exact parallel counterpart to each other.

This is skateboarding, not science. A similar illogical example: frontside 1/2 cab flips and backside nollie flips are the same trick, but different stances. On rails there are frontside nosegrinds and backside overcrooks. That's just the way things are.

[self-loathing gnarcissist]

People who think bs overcrooks exist but not frontside ones are like republicans. Most of them are old and from a different era, and their archaic values will eventually dissipate.

[KUberry]

People who think bs overcrooks exist but not frontside ones are like republicans. Most of them are old and from a different era, and their archaic values will eventually dissipate.

Yes!!

[new_york_shitty]

I asked Santa for no more pointless threads.

I got a rock.

[mattdlx]

... julien did one in an old video so it seemed possible but now that lots of people can pop out i know it's easier as a nose manual than some crazy tweaked out, lipslide-y piece of shit...

Underworld Element video. My favorite nosegrind in the history of nosegrinds.

[Monkey_Mcpott]

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People who think bs overcrooks exist but not frontside ones are like republicans. Most of them are old and from a different era, and their archaic values will eventually dissipate.

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Yes!!

[SodaJerk]

People are really getting their knickers in a twist over this but i think that yes there is such a thing. I wouldn't want to state what degree would qualify this to be named as such but just to add a little fuel to the fire I'd say that Niel Blender's "new deal grind" and then the "newer deal grind" would be the precursor to this. I remember Alfonzo Rawls had one of the 2 in a sequence on Tony Hawks mini. If you don't think they exist that's cool.

[NoComply180]

i want to say no, but the more I think about it a tweaked/overcrook nosegrind is definitely a different trick/approach from a fs nosegrind

[Iceman]

People who think bs overcrooks exist but not frontside ones are like republicans. Most of them are old and from a different era, and their archaic values will eventually dissipate.

...says the oblivious dude who lives in a right wing country that shifts more rightward every year.

[EARL***THE***PEARL]

YES



On only one circumstance... if the ledge/hubba is doubled sided and you actaully ollie over to a crooked grind then it can be called a FS  overcrook or (ollie over to crooked grind) on a rail or regular ledge no.

[doomstation55]

People on both sides that feel so strongly about this are dumb. Final answer.

[waterbucket]

great thread! SLAP does it again!

[HyperBeam]

It is not called a frontside overcrook because that name depreciates the difficulty of the trick, as the lock-in, which is essentially that of a backside crooked grind, is considerably easy. Instead it is called a fs nosegrind so that it is more distanced from the easier backside crooked grind.

On the flip side, calling a bs overcrook a bs nose grind undervalues the fact that it is locked in the same way as a frontside crooked grind, which is a notoriously difficult trick to lock into and balance.

It is the same reason noseblunts are called noseblunts, and not alley-oop noseslides. The logically inconsistent names serve to either mask the easiness or emphasize the difficulty of the more fundamental tricks that constitute fs nose grinds and bs over crooks.

This is how I see it, at least.

[Baron Samedi]

In "anthology" MJ talks about going back with Channy so he can land his "backside noseblunt grind"

5 in the morning. 5 IN THE MORNING

[self-loathing gnarcissist]

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People who think bs overcrooks exist but not frontside ones are like republicans. Most of them are old and from a different era, and their archaic values will eventually dissipate.

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...says the oblivious dude who lives in a right wing country that shifts more rightward every year.

Lol