Thank you for your time addressing my questions,
`1st of all what is the value of your maybe ? huh? who are you ? who are you ? `1st question is this ? are you authority ? ( or mother ) ? OR just an random child ? huh?
I am one disposable human unity that mother gifted with almighty existence (since technically, I am alive). No more, no less. I could very well be a random child and would have no problem accepting that designation, as long as my natural tendency to learn and grow (towards unity, not cancerous inner growth centered around an unresolved self) remains considered.
The value of my maybe is just the one of the word itself. There is no special validity attached to it just because I am a certain person using it. It expresses the consideration of a mere abstract possibility.
and as far as question of my being angry or aggressive so child is not interested for education. But it is the duty of the father to make him educated, sometimes father punish him. So a child may be foolish, but how the parents can be foolish?”
what is your answer ??
I understand and do not disagree with your idea of education. Raising a child (who was also granted existence) is maybe the most noble and responsible task; providing them with clues to this world is key and one's duty as a parent, to make them understand right from wrong and prepare them to grow as more accomplished individuals who would be closer in tune with unity, as opposed to hungry animals. I don't know if it's an answer but since you ask, I think the foolish parents are those who don't realize their role and care about their children. From my cheap observation, it seems like they are for the most part people who have given up on themselves, which is one thing already but projecting the self and letting that affect another soul's development sounds criminal. A lot of time these people seem to try and assume the stereotype of the Western parent role (like it's a costume) and will still punish their kids (to look and feel like they are parents), but they will never try to listen to them. I think listening to children is important because all they know how to do is expressing simple feelings. It's raw emotion and as adults it is our duty to help them learn to channel those emotions, but paradoxically being that in tune with one's inner self is also a trait that a lot of adults lose (in the West at least). I really believe in communication in general as the fundamental mean to bring people closer to unity and that includes parents and children, although obviously parents always have the upper hand. Of course I'm not certain to be right, but I hope this answers your question.
and wrong right now im not at all violent, and my frustration or chaotic condition, or little bit confusion is the gift by your forefathers ( or western civilziation ) who is creating problems and has already mismanaged entire world affairs and spoiling the whole world for there own personal benefit.
I can also understand this. Before you replied, I almost edited my message again to replace frustration with oppression, so maybe I get it. I seriously think you would be surprised by the amount of Western people (individuals, not organizations) who also get it, see through most everything you mentioned, and obviously disagree with it, but are entrapped within the system and tied to it with no way of fighting back; democracy isn't one, and I will address why I think that below. I seem to feel you may have a romanticized idea of democracy that sounds a bit disconnected with its modern practice in the Western world; I will address that further down.
and how can i call womens equal ? when they are not equal ? it is not belittling of women but it is an fact that they are not equal but you western men has cheated your own womens by giving them equality. ( indeed amazing )
now if you still think that im belittling women than tell us answer to my this question that if apple is thrown on knife or knife on apple than who is going to be cut down ? apple or knife ?
so women is not equal to men. how can you say it that im belittling women ?
First off, I'll go by the assumption that when you claim that women aren't equal, you mean physically because they aren't as strong as men, but to be honest that I don't know. Women can carry and give birth to children which is something no man was, is and will ever be strong enough to do. In that sense, one can argue that they are the closest thing on Earth to mother and that in comparison men are only functional, reproductive parasites (not the other way around like certain cultures will claim) and in a sense, less purely in tune. I hope you can consider this idea without succumbing how fiercely it might clash with yours (which I did consider).
I am very suspicious of division (the opposite of unity) and therefore will always see what connects people together over what differentiates them. Both men and women are human beings. What unites them is their shared existence and destiny of a development that on the individual scale may be viewed as positive or negative (if corrupted by lack of education and false icons; the form those take depending on the geographical location doesn't seem to matter). I believe all humans are born into this world with the same potential for growth, one granted by mother, and letting anybody's forefathers (by the means of firm, man-made social structure with strictly regulated roles based on something as arbitrary as gender) interfere with their natural fulfillment is wrong as in yet another obstacle towards unity.
I suspect that you may strongly disagree with this but would respect if you considered it before possibly rejecting it (if that ever means anything). By practical essence, even ideally stripped off the entirety of the mental pollution we have been exposed to in their lives, we're still all products of the environment, culture and codes we experienced growing up. I am totally willing to acknowledge being ignorant to many subtleties of Eastern cultures, but I seem to sense that a lot of your resentment for the West is misguided, too. So I think it's interesting to exchange perspectives. But for the reason that one's place of birth is arbitrary, please forgive me if our respective languages sometimes clash in codes - I try my best at respecting words, but sometimes even when used to their strictly technical sense they might carry a different weight from culture to culture. Please rest assured that I never mean any aggression with my messages. Also I would like to salute your very accurate use of the English vocabulary to describe certain social phenomenons - recently, I was especially impressed with your utilization of the word 'bluff'. It really is the most fitting word to use to describe what you were describing.
and your western civilization has no culture, no social structure, no spiritual understanding, nothing of the sort. ( nothing ) but you are covered ( for now ) only by the money. that is the only thing which is covering you right now.
and culture is complex ? but you have no culture at all. and cheating, politics, fraud and deplomacy these things are the general qualification of the western people. and dont blame government for now it is an democracy government.
I am glad you specified 'right now' because that is what eventually validates your first statement. The West does have a culture historically, but obviously over the last century it's been completely diluted. Going to Paris, London or NYC feels the exact same; that's because the culture the people did use to have increasingly got corrupted by extreme capitalism over the decades. It sounds like what you see when you look at that portion of the world map is an aggressive mess of a disgusting commercial toxic blur and honestly yes, that's what it is, who in their right mind could fault you for that?
One thing I don't quite understand is blaming the forefathers (of any people). I believe most people's forefathers have a long history of ugliness, and in general any people is capable of manipulating their own history (or really wishes they would be). This is definitely
no excuse for anything on anyone's end. I just see the renewal of generations as yet another fantastic gift from mother. Birth over and over again in an effort to continuously get closer to unity and erase the mistakes of the past all the while learning from them. It's natural progress. I think stigmatizing forefathers for their acts when they're long gone is only a distraction leading towards more division when maybe we should be working on cleaning up what is currently happening.
Also please let me clarify that in no way do I ever intend to claim or speak for mother. I have no problem with my condition of a random child and am grateful for the amazing gift of existence. I also don't claim to have any kind of grasp on mother, so of course in this context I'm really alluding to my representation of her, I don't intend to touch the sacred. I hope you can understand this as to not misinterpret offense from my words.
You are government. If you are fools the government are fools. If you are intelligent the government is intelligent. It is up to you to change; then everything will be all right.
and your western majority ( vox populi ) is the majority of cats and dogs ( not even at the position of obidient child ) and not even cats and dogs ( if we properly take measurements ) for you are even more gross than cats and dogs.
Here is where I address the democracy topic. It really isn't as simple and direct as you seem to think. Most Western governments are a fraud, a masquerade; the modern equivalent of "bread and games" in the Roman Empire, they are a popular, mainstream distraction. In reality they are tied hands and feet to extreme capitalism (like puppets, but monetarily) and the true decision makers really are the most successful commercial businesses. There are lobbyists within our governments themselves. Voting is only an illusory principle when your options are the same character; it's as sterile as voting for a certain TV show host.
Our system is corrupted but I really think it's unfair to blame everything on the people. Children will be given birth to everywhere, again (in my cheap opinion) with the same potential and natural desire to grow towards unity; then their experiences shape their understanding of the world (which can evolve from less - strictly self-based - to more complete - as they eventually resolve themselves, if they work towards that). It's the same in the West, except children are brutally hit with extreme capitalism everywhere as soon as they come into existence. It is very brutal and in my opinion, in many ways comparable to some spiritual trauma which one can break out of, but only if they really try to (as the aggressive instances of capitalism in the environment - from visuals to social codes - are non stop). I can completely see why somebody from the East with little direct, practical experience with the West (not that I would assume anything about you) could make the generalization that we're mere waste; but again I'd be wary of division. Of course you see the tip of the incredibly shitty iceberg, but I can guarantee you that the people in general are more critical than you think they are, and shouldn't be represented by their governments' wrongdoings. They actually call their governments out and take actions all the time, but their efforts are promptly diluted by brute force or enforcement of the local legal system. Popular counter-cultures that criticize or directly oppose the extremes of capitalism raise all the time, but they quickly lose all potential as capitalism will instantly phagocytize any one of them and blur the cards with profitable representations of each movement. Also the demonstrations against the establishment that do get media publicity are usually of the wrong kind, either really motivated by greedy masses (materialistic rascals), and / or ridiculed into a mere public spectacle via monetized journalism. So what's left? Violent revolutions? The one that did away with monarchy in my country a few centuries ago is what took it here, so in the end what would a new one achieve if not more trouble, more division? That's all what governments are instilling here already too, division as to make sure no one ever argues back in a manner that would sound credible if even coherent.
Born in the West, if anything, politically I'd say my experience is that one feels trapped. You come into this world and of course you have the comfort of (currently) not being directly exploited by more barbarian countries, but you also never chose any of the chaos your forefathers have instilled before your time, to earn them. So here one is born a pawn in the game of capitalism, but by nurturing one's ability to remain connected with their own selves it's actually very accessible to notice our society's fake patterns, and work towards living a responsible, sometimes self-sufficient life despite the overwhelming environment. In actuality, the recent generations have been increasingly questioning the abuse of our forefathers and undertaken more and more political or social stances that aim at tackling and ideally reversing that continuous abuse, but again it's hard for the most pertinent voices to be heard. I think I may share your general analysis, but have a practical understanding of the context maybe you could consider, maybe for refinement.
If you don't mind me asking, how did you choose this forum in particular as a place to start this discussion? Would that be because it's a skateboarding website, and skateboarding looks super Western? I think you might be intrigued that although it's commonly marketed as pop culture, materialistic garbage, many aspects of its original culture and fundamental practice actually inherently subvert the roots of capitalism. In an urban environment, the act of skateboarding makes for a stand against the privatization of public space (natural living space) by instances of capitalism (i.e.. the unquestioned invasion of said space by private businesses). Also as something performed on a solitary basis in a quiet environment devoid of distractions, the activity takes so much primal focus and self-awareness (lack of which resulting in physical punishment) that if undisturbed, its practice shares a lot of similarities with meditation. In your context, that might sound ridiculous but in reality the West could use jumping another division and learning more about certain Eastern teachings (why even the dichotomy in the first place nowadays?), so whatever tool they get to use to achieve anything close to therapy of the self is welcome. Unfortunately, the Eastern practices that the people who are the most in tune with themselves know they need here, that they try to import also get rapidly phagocytized by the extremes of capitalism and so much of the fundamental meaning gets lost or blurred, and exchanged for an empty costume; even with the Internet nowadays, communication isn't always made easy (when I think it may be natural).
If you don't mind me asking another question, why such an emphasis on the wrongdoings and perversions of the West, though? What are your thoughts on the industrialization of certain Eastern countries, for instance? Some of them put Western countries to shame in that department. Would you argue that this is also originally the Westerners' fault? (I wouldn't necessarily question that)
and if they block it than let them block it. and go to hell. but my duty is done. now its your business to accept it or not. ( that is your option ) but my work is finished without any duplicity.
and am not hypocrite fraud like you western people. for i have given Original purpose of human life.
You obviously take your duty to heart if you're posting on this website like you're doing, addressing people's questions. What I was saying is, if you are trying to convey a message, then here are some social codes to (maybe) enhance its communication to people with a different culture, because since you want it out there it would be a waste of effort and time if its form prevented people from grasping its substance.
And yes I talked about unity, why? Do you own it? I never voted for any McDonald and don't even live in the U.S.A., you don't know anything about my actions, experiences or culture. Because I was born in a certain place doesn't mean I can't look up to unity. Demonizing entire populations for the wrongdoings of a few is by definition abusive and misleading - definitely not tending towards unity.
Again thank you for your time considering my words.