Motta of Skate Mental?

[Lance]

Yeah it's mildly regular that The Champion isn't Am over there, dude should've been on years ago. 

[pepperpotts]

$15,000 is an insane amount of money for buying out board sponsor contracts.

 the amount of money skate mental is going to make off trevor colden will far surpass what they had to pay to get him

[shit_for_brains]

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$15,000 is an insane amount of money for buying out board sponsor contracts.

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 the amount of money skate mental is going to make off trevor colden will far surpass what they had to pay to get him

Trevor Colden has already more than paid for himself.

[Dane Skolil]

This is my first post so go easy on me, I know the story of the contract buy-out. Colden and I are homies, (name drop, I know, forgive for I have sinned) but he told me that The Chief was being a fucking prick and Colden's contract wasn't up, so Colden was doing anything to piss off the chief like riding blank boards and whatnot, he even uploaded an insta post thanking mystery for everything they have done for him. Colden gets a text from the chief saying I'm not letting you go. Scuba then texts Colden telling him about SkateMental, trevor was down but couldn't do it because his contract wasn't over. Word got around and the chief found out that colden was trying to leave for SM, so the chief asked nikesb for like 45k to buy him out of the contract, Nike was like we have nothing to do with this, a couple days go by and asks nike for 30k and they still said we have nothing to do with the matter. Colden was fed up with the chiefs shit and told Scuba that he was gonna pay 15k to the chief. So they met at black box, colden gave him the check for 15k, then trevor went back to his house but not even 30 minutes into the car ride, the chief already cashed the check.

[Exposure]

i have no clue as to how valid that story is but if it is true... Then WOW

[sweat stains]

Colden gets a text from the chief saying I'm not letting you go.

[childhood]

Damn that's funny. That makes that marc johnson comment make more sense, and the board way funnier

[Stoop Kid 2.0]

I'm sure isuck will come on here prove that story bullshit.

[Mazzer]

At first thought, it seems pretty pathetic.  But then I realized it's probably a NB vs Nike thing in JT's mind, so that's probably why he got all lawyer on the kid.

[conqueso]

well hes the only young dude that was really a SL prospect....obvious reasons to want to keep him on blackbox.

[NickDagger]

Finally some good gossip. Remember skateboardrumors.com? That's what we should aim for. Slap's been a little dry on Industry gossip lately.

[Leyzee Emcea]

how could a brand who markets this

lose a rider who's last name literally translates into the spanish slang for weed? I figured they would have a field day with that.

[kamltoe]

This is my first post so go easy on me, I know the story of the contract buy-out. Colden and I are homies, (name drop, I know, forgive for I have sinned) but he told me that The Chief was being a fucking prick and Colden's contract wasn't up, so Colden was doing anything to piss off the chief like riding blank boards and whatnot, he even uploaded an insta post thanking mystery for everything they have done for him. Colden gets a text from the chief saying I'm not letting you go. Scuba then texts Colden telling him about SkateMental, trevor was down but couldn't do it because his contract wasn't over. Word got around and the chief found out that colden was trying to leave for SM, so the chief asked nikesb for like 45k to buy him out of the contract, Nike was like we have nothing to do with this, a couple days go by and asks nike for 30k and they still said we have nothing to do with the matter. Colden was fed up with the chiefs shit and told Scuba that he was gonna pay 15k to the chief. So they met at black box, colden gave him the check for 15k, then trevor went back to his house but not even 30 minutes into the car ride, the chief already cashed the check.

now thats a first post.



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[Rutger Hauer]

This is my first post so go easy on me, I know the story of the contract buy-out. Colden and I are homies, (name drop, I know, forgive for I have sinned) but he told me that The Chief was being a fucking prick and Colden's contract wasn't up, so Colden was doing anything to piss off the chief like riding blank boards and whatnot, he even uploaded an insta post thanking mystery for everything they have done for him. Colden gets a text from the chief saying I'm not letting you go. Scuba then texts Colden telling him about SkateMental, trevor was down but couldn't do it because his contract wasn't over. Word got around and the chief found out that colden was trying to leave for SM, so the chief asked nikesb for like 45k to buy him out of the contract, Nike was like we have nothing to do with this, a couple days go by and asks nike for 30k and they still said we have nothing to do with the matter. Colden was fed up with the chiefs shit and told Scuba that he was gonna pay 15k to the chief. So they met at black box, colden gave him the check for 15k, then trevor went back to his house but not even 30 minutes into the car ride, the chief already cashed the check.

Specify how?
Well...that prick made him what he is in the first place...

[stevedave]

so Trevor Colden gave Jamie Thomas $15,000 of his OWN MONEY to get out of his contract?  wow. 

how long did this kid sign a contract for?!?!  Most contracts are about a year.  He must've signed some long ass contract if he was willing to pay that much to get out of it. 

[augustmoon]

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This is my first post so go easy on me, I know the story of the contract buy-out. Colden and I are homies, (name drop, I know, forgive for I have sinned) but he told me that The Chief was being a fucking prick and Colden's contract wasn't up, so Colden was doing anything to piss off the chief like riding blank boards and whatnot, he even uploaded an insta post thanking mystery for everything they have done for him. Colden gets a text from the chief saying I'm not letting you go. Scuba then texts Colden telling him about SkateMental, trevor was down but couldn't do it because his contract wasn't over. Word got around and the chief found out that colden was trying to leave for SM, so the chief asked nikesb for like 45k to buy him out of the contract, Nike was like we have nothing to do with this, a couple days go by and asks nike for 30k and they still said we have nothing to do with the matter. Colden was fed up with the chiefs shit and told Scuba that he was gonna pay 15k to the chief. So they met at black box, colden gave him the check for 15k, then trevor went back to his house but not even 30 minutes into the car ride, the chief already cashed the check.

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Specify how?
Well...that prick made him what he is in the first place...

I love that after all these years and countless stories, people still refuse to believe that Jamie Thomas just might be an asshole

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This is my first post so go easy on me, I know the story of the contract buy-out. Colden and I are homies, (name drop, I know, forgive for I have sinned) but he told me that The Chief was being a fucking prick and Colden's contract wasn't up, so Colden was doing anything to piss off the chief like riding blank boards and whatnot, he even uploaded an insta post thanking mystery for everything they have done for him. Colden gets a text from the chief saying I'm not letting you go. Scuba then texts Colden telling him about SkateMental, trevor was down but couldn't do it because his contract wasn't over. Word got around and the chief found out that colden was trying to leave for SM, so the chief asked nikesb for like 45k to buy him out of the contract, Nike was like we have nothing to do with this, a couple days go by and asks nike for 30k and they still said we have nothing to do with the matter. Colden was fed up with the chiefs shit and told Scuba that he was gonna pay 15k to the chief. So they met at black box, colden gave him the check for 15k, then trevor went back to his house but not even 30 minutes into the car ride, the chief already cashed the check.

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Specify how?
Well...that prick made him what he is in the first place...

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I love that after all these years and countless stories, people still refuse to believe that Jamie Thomas just might be an asshole

[stevedave]

while some of Jamie's business practices may seem questionable to people, personally, I think the kid that signed a contract for way longer than he should have, and then wanted to break it just to go skate for a different company, and forked $15K out of his pocket to do so, is the bigger prick. 

[oyolar]

while some of Jamie's business practices may seem questionable to people, personally, I think the kid that signed a contract for way longer than he should have, and then wanted to break it just to go skate for a different company, and forked $15K out of his pocket to do so, is the bigger prick. 

Ah yes.  The kid who signed a contract while underage and excited about getting attention from a big company, trusting that a skating legend and probably one of his idols wouldn't screw him over and was then extorted by his boss is a WAY bigger prick than the 35 year old business man who bullied an 18 year old and harassed his other, uninvolved, sponsors.

[stevedave]

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while some of Jamie's business practices may seem questionable to people, personally, I think the kid that signed a contract for way longer than he should have, and then wanted to break it just to go skate for a different company, and forked $15K out of his pocket to do so, is the bigger prick. 

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Ah yes.  The kid who signed a contract while underage and excited about getting attention from a big company, trusting that a skating legend and probably one of his idols wouldn't screw him over and was then extorted by his boss is a WAY bigger prick than the 35 year old business man who bullied an 18 year old and harassed his other, uninvolved, sponsors.

ok, i get where you're coming from, but the fact of the matter is that jamie is his BOSS, not his friend, not his older brother.  Jamie offered the kid a contract, trevor didn't have to sign it or could've had someone look at it that knew about contracts.  I'll bet the $15,000 trevor gave Jamie, that he had a lawyer with him when he signed his Nike contract!!! 

I'm not saying it's not a shitty move to grease someone for money, but at the same time, he signed the contract.  He's obligated to stay with the company for that amount of time.  You see Grant Taylor throwing $15,000 at Alien?!?! No, he knew he was under contract and decided to wait it out.  You wanna break a contract, there's consequences....you think Jamie should've just let him walk???

[stevedave]

also, I have a hard time believing Jamie asked Nike for money.  He's been in the industry long enough to know that they have NOTHING to do with a board sponsor and would NEVER even CONSIDER paying for someone to get out of a board sponsor contract. 

You're basing your entire belief off of someone with ONE post who started a rumor!!!

[Aidan Clarke]

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while some of Jamie's business practices may seem questionable to people, personally, I think the kid that signed a contract for way longer than he should have, and then wanted to break it just to go skate for a different company, and forked $15K out of his pocket to do so, is the bigger prick. 

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Ah yes.  The kid who signed a contract while underage and excited about getting attention from a big company, trusting that a skating legend and probably one of his idols wouldn't screw him over and was then extorted by his boss is a WAY bigger prick than the 35 year old business man who bullied an 18 year old and harassed his other, uninvolved, sponsors.

You guys have no business acumen at all. You think Jamie is his fucking friend or mentor or something? That.doesn't mean shit when you're talking business. Jamie gave him a contract from a business standpoint where he gives colden money and product under terms and conditions he came up with that would yield him a return on his.investment in the kid.  The real prick is the guy that agrees to these terms and accepts the fact that he's getting this money to endorse the company, and after.he gets the money he makes mock posts online like he's dropping the company and rides boards other than what he's getting paid to ride. It's trevorrs fault that he signed it in the first place, he miscalculated his worth and signed a contract that he felt was less than the going rate for his services, that's him being a bad business person.

I can tell most of.you guys never ran your own business, because if you gave an employee money to do a job and then they didn't do it you'd probably be pissed off too. And god forbid the friend of the kid comes onto slap and confuses Jamie being authoritative, like a boss, with.being a prick bc someone signed a contract and they aren't living up to their end of the deal. The friend is mistaken to say that Jamie is acting like a prick to the ungrateful little shit, and then you guys eat that shit up and say that Jamie is a jerk and all this nonsense. Jamie is a shrewd business man that expected certain conditions that the contract signee wasn't willing to provide, basically he promised he'd do something for money and did the opposite. Try doing that at your job and see how long you'll be employed for.


And Nick dagger, you're looking at skateboard rumors through rose colored glasses. I was the one that made the pro skaters on drugs thread, and they deleted that shit five times and said I was fucked up for starting it in the first place because no one was talking about guy smoking crack at the time and they didn't want their boards to be the first place on the internet where it surfaced. I had to save and repaste everything multiple times on different ip addresses before they knew I wasn't gonna let up. Slap is a thousand times better than skateboard rumors ever. was.

[Tracer]

It's strange to see other athletes like Amare Stoudemire make 20 000 000 per year, yet skateboarding legend Trevor Colden is sweating over 30 dimes.

[stevedave]

Legend?!?!  hahaha,wow, Tracer is TOO much. 

and yeah, as much as i don't want to, I gotta agree with Aidan Clarke on this. 

[Aidan Clarke]

It's strange to see other athletes like Amare Stoudemire make 20 000 000 per year, yet skateboarding legend Trevor Colden is sweating over 30 dimes.

You realize basketball stars generate way more money with millions more fans than skateboarders right? Even no name bench warmer are doing better than what we consider to be top tier skaters.

[mareo]

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It's strange to see other athletes like Amare Stoudemire make 20 000 000 per year, yet skateboarding legend Trevor Colden is sweating over 30 dimes.

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You realize basketball stars generate way more money with millions more fans than skateboarders right? Even no name bench warmer are doing better than what we consider to be top tier skaters.

I don't actually see nothing wrong with buying/selling riders to be honest. Hope this start a trend of longer contracts and higher pay. This is the monetary proof that riders make money for the company.

[Dane Skolil]

I think Colden told me that his contract was over in 2015, he also told me that Kyle Frederick who rides for mystery only gets paid $100 a month 

[Aidan Clarke]

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It's strange to see other athletes like Amare Stoudemire make 20 000 000 per year, yet skateboarding legend Trevor Colden is sweating over 30 dimes.

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You realize basketball stars generate way more money with millions more fans than skateboarders right? Even no name bench warmer are doing better than what we consider to be top tier skaters.

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I don't actually see nothing wrong with buying/selling riders to be honest. Hope this start a trend of longer contracts and higher pay. This is the monetary proof that riders make money for the company.

There is nothing wrong with buying and selling skaters and their contracts, it further creates demand for these riders and pays them the money that allows us to watch their footage, and then talk shit about them on slap. It's the natural order, if people weren't willing to back these deals up with money then we wouldn't have professional skateboarding, it'd just be a bunch of hobbyists like were collecting model trains or making ships in a bottle or some other nonsense.


It feels good to be sharing a level with you, stevedave.

[Fenzadill]

It's strange to see other athletes like Amare Stoudemire make 20 000 000 per year, yet skateboarding legend Trevor Colden is sweating over 30 dimes.
are you making up slang terms

[stevedave]

I think Colden told me that his contract was over in 2015, he also told me that Kyle Frederick who rides for mystery only gets paid $100 a month 

my point only is this.  those contracts were put in front of them, and they weren't forced to sign them.  thats why they call them CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS.  Someone offers you a contract, you READ it, see which terms you don't agree with and you counter.  If Trevor signed a contract that kept him at Black Box until 2015, it means he AGREED to the terms.  Same with Kyle.  The thing is, these dudes are skateboarders that have NEVER made money from skateboarding, so if anyone offers them anything, they're pretty quick to take it. 

Did Jamie take advantage of their naivety?  Possibly.  But the point is they weren't forced to do anything they didn't want to do. 

And I stand by my point that it's BULLSHIT that Jamie tried to grease Nike for the money to buy out Colden's contract.  He's not stupid, and knows how the industry works.