ALL the big board companies are hurting right now. ALL OF THEM. There's been a large movement towards smaller board brands. Shops are picking up a dozen Welcomes, a dozen boards from TOA (if not more), local brands, shop boards, etc. Shops that used to take roughly 30 boards from Deluxe, or Girl/Choc or Baker Boys are just NOT getting those numbers anymore. But those companies still need to keep up the appearance of being the "elite" or they'll lose credibility, etc. DNA is gone, I SUCK has said come here and said things are NOT GOOD at Black Box. If people weren't buying Zero boards before, they CERTAINLY aren't now, knowing the company may be gone or sold to Dwindle or who knows what....