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« Reply #4320 on: November 12, 2021, 08:08:10 AM »
zach allen just posted a photo of kader’s 57mm radial fulls. hopefully that’ll hit the market soon. that shape is dope
So hyped on these. thank you Kader for helping the youth see the light of big wheels.

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« Reply #4321 on: November 12, 2021, 09:26:59 AM »
I got some OJ 95A 56mm Nomads for transition/indoor skatepark. These are still not grippy enough for "gatorskins". At least I was slipping out skating a 5ft mini. I also got Acid 86A 53mm and these do grip very well, but reverts are not easy. I was also getting stuck on crooks and smiths on a box. The sweet spot for indoor parks is probably in the low 90s.

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« Reply #4322 on: November 12, 2021, 11:46:59 AM »
I grabbed some 54 92A Ricta Clouds today for the ditch setup.  I'm trying to run smaller wheels (smaller than 60mm I mean) and not use risers, so I figured these were worth trying.  A quick run through a few parking lots has them feeling like a nice compromise, but I'm not entirely sold on the size yet.  We'll see this weekend how I like them when I have more time.

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« Reply #4323 on: November 13, 2021, 02:28:30 PM »
Super naive question, what wheels/durometer/wheel size and riding surface/etc. are best for slippery wooden mini ramps and indoor concrete? I know that kind of surface will be slippery no matter what, and if I was better at skating it wouldn’t matter, but I’m not.

Kind of thinking that 97-99A wheels with a bit bigger surface like conical fulls will grip the ground better and will be the most stable. Any insights are greatly welcomed
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« Reply #4324 on: November 13, 2021, 03:39:42 PM »
A wider contact patch will help somewhat, but I feel like durometer is the bigger factor with slippery ground. I'd personally recommend a spitfire 97a if you want to keep more of the modern wheel feel, but I really like the way my 97a slime balls feel as well.

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« Reply #4325 on: November 13, 2021, 04:46:07 PM »
95a-97a durometer is nice for slick stuff. Maybe go up in size a little since the softer durometer slows it down. OJ and Speedlab have a good selection of wheels in this range.
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« Reply #4326 on: November 13, 2021, 05:42:11 PM »
Thanks dudes! Yeah, 97a is what I was leaning toward. OJ, bones, or maybe even satori or Santa Cruz.

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« Reply #4327 on: November 13, 2021, 06:51:30 PM »
Would it be absolutely stupid to buy the 58mm OJ natas 95a hardlines? Entering crusty ground/wooden skatepark winter season i'm looking for something better than my 55mm OG classics. I like bigger, fatter wheels. I've only skated bones and spitfire in the last 10 years so I have no idea if OJ is worth it or not.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4328 on: November 13, 2021, 07:03:10 PM »
Thanks dudes! Yeah, 97a is what I was leaning toward. OJ, bones, or maybe even satori or Santa Cruz.


I feel like 97 are not grippy enough for really slippery ramps, so something more like 95 work best, as per comment below, but the 97 duro Spitfire F4 56mm classics I have are really good on just slightly slippery surfaces.  Some of the guys I skate with always ride the older bigger OJs or Slimeballs in more 60-61mm size in 95 or 97 and those things are amazing, but many people don't want wheels quite that big.


Would it be absolutely stupid to buy the 58mm OJ natas 95a hardlines? Entering crusty ground/wooden skatepark winter season i'm looking for something better than my 55mm OG classics. I like bigger, fatter wheels. I've only skated bones and spitfire in the last 10 years so I have no idea if OJ is worth it or not.

I got some (more so for others who wanted grippy / softer wheels) and they would be perfect for that sort of situation, after having a skate on their boards.

Anything a little more on the softer and bigger side is ideal for me, so although they are not quite as fast as other wheels of 99 to 101 duro, they don't slip out and the slightly bigger size means they hold up better than smaller wheels.


Pretty much all the slippery ramps / parks I skated were more often on setups that had either 95 duro or even 92 duro Spitfires in the Soft D range, which you cannot get anymore, but there are other wheels out that are about the same.

The 92 duro are definitely way slower, but around 95 might be the easiest combination of not too soft / slow but not too slippery / sticky on that sort of surface.

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« Reply #4329 on: November 13, 2021, 07:27:12 PM »
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Thanks dudes! Yeah, 97a is what I was leaning toward. OJ, bones, or maybe even satori or Santa Cruz.
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I feel like 97 are not grippy enough for really slippery ramps, so something more like 95 work best, as per comment below, but the 97 duro Spitfire F4 56mm classics I have are really good on just slightly slippery surfaces.  Some of the guys I skate with always ride the older bigger OJs or Slimeballs in more 60-61mm size in 95 or 97 and those things are amazing, but many people don't want wheels quite that big.


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Would it be absolutely stupid to buy the 58mm OJ natas 95a hardlines? Entering crusty ground/wooden skatepark winter season i'm looking for something better than my 55mm OG classics. I like bigger, fatter wheels. I've only skated bones and spitfire in the last 10 years so I have no idea if OJ is worth it or not.
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I got some (more so for others who wanted grippy / softer wheels) and they would be perfect for that sort of situation, after having a skate on their boards.

Anything a little more on the softer and bigger side is ideal for me, so although they are not quite as fast as other wheels of 99 to 101 duro, they don't slip out and the slightly bigger size means they hold up better than smaller wheels.


Pretty much all the slippery ramps / parks I skated were more often on setups that had either 95 duro or even 92 duro Spitfires in the Soft D range, which you cannot get anymore, but there are other wheels out that are about the same.

The 92 duro are definitely way slower, but around 95 might be the easiest combination of not too soft / slow but not too slippery / sticky on that sort of surface.

What an awesone post, thanks for your help! Definitely gonna grab those fatties now

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« Reply #4330 on: November 13, 2021, 10:46:42 PM »
Thanks dudes! Yeah, 97a is what I was leaning toward. OJ, bones, or maybe even satori or Santa Cruz.

https://nhsfunfactory.com/products/60mm-oj-ii-original-white-combo-95a-oj-skateboard-wheels

If you can deal with the extra width, these wheels are pretty great. Super grippy while still being pretty fast.
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« Reply #4331 on: November 13, 2021, 10:57:59 PM »
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Thanks dudes! Yeah, 97a is what I was leaning toward. OJ, bones, or maybe even satori or Santa Cruz.
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https://nhsfunfactory.com/products/60mm-oj-ii-original-white-combo-95a-oj-skateboard-wheels

If you can deal with the extra width, these wheels are pretty great. Super grippy while still being pretty fast.
I have the 97a teamrider iis and am pretty tempted by these... adore the way they look and the 97a that i have isnt big enough of a difference to be worth the sacrifice of hard wheels

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« Reply #4332 on: November 14, 2021, 07:41:33 AM »
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Thanks dudes! Yeah, 97a is what I was leaning toward. OJ, bones, or maybe even satori or Santa Cruz.
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https://nhsfunfactory.com/products/60mm-oj-ii-original-white-combo-95a-oj-skateboard-wheels

If you can deal with the extra width, these wheels are pretty great. Super grippy while still being pretty fast.
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I have the 97a teamrider iis and am pretty tempted by these... adore the way they look and the 97a that i have isnt big enough of a difference to be worth the sacrifice of hard wheels

Maybe it’s in my head, but the 97a OJ/Slimeballs feel a bit sluggish to me. These ones feel faster. For being only two points softer they feel pretty different
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« Reply #4333 on: November 14, 2021, 07:30:38 PM »
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Thanks dudes! Yeah, 97a is what I was leaning toward. OJ, bones, or maybe even satori or Santa Cruz.
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https://nhsfunfactory.com/products/60mm-oj-ii-original-white-combo-95a-oj-skateboard-wheels

If you can deal with the extra width, these wheels are pretty great. Super grippy while still being pretty fast.
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I have the 97a teamrider iis and am pretty tempted by these... adore the way they look and the 97a that i have isnt big enough of a difference to be worth the sacrifice of hard wheels
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Maybe it’s in my head, but the 97a OJ/Slimeballs feel a bit sluggish to me. These ones feel faster. For being only two points softer they feel pretty different
Thanks for the insight. I felt the same, was pretty dissapointed with the wheels. Now I have got to decide between these or 97 58 conical fulls....

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4334 on: November 15, 2021, 05:28:38 AM »
Are loophole good wheels?

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« Reply #4335 on: November 15, 2021, 05:36:04 AM »
Are loophole good wheels?
yes! Get some 56mm v-cuts

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« Reply #4336 on: November 15, 2021, 07:10:30 AM »
Yeah, they're pretty excellent. They stand toe to toe with F4 and STFs.

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« Reply #4337 on: November 15, 2021, 07:11:57 AM »
speaking of loophole, anyone have recent-ish experience or i guess any experience with the square shape? i've stuck to vcut, but for some reason squares have me curious

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« Reply #4338 on: November 15, 2021, 07:23:45 AM »
speaking of loophole, anyone have recent-ish experience or i guess any experience with the square shape? i've stuck to vcut, but for some reason squares have me curious
want the square 54s; currently on 56 v-cuts and 52 teardrops on my “tech” deck

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« Reply #4339 on: November 15, 2021, 07:47:44 AM »
speaking of loophole, anyone have recent-ish experience or i guess any experience with the square shape? i've stuck to vcut, but for some reason squares have me curious

I had the 54 squares. They were good and pretty comparable to a spit radial slim. Lock in was nice, but still relatively rounded. Didn’t enjoy them as much as the teardrop shape though, they seemed stickier and a little less consistent on the slide for me.

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« Reply #4340 on: November 15, 2021, 04:20:38 PM »
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Thanks dudes! Yeah, 97a is what I was leaning toward. OJ, bones, or maybe even satori or Santa Cruz.
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https://nhsfunfactory.com/products/60mm-oj-ii-original-white-combo-95a-oj-skateboard-wheels

If you can deal with the extra width, these wheels are pretty great. Super grippy while still being pretty fast.
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I have the 97a teamrider iis and am pretty tempted by these... adore the way they look and the 97a that i have isnt big enough of a difference to be worth the sacrifice of hard wheels
[close]

Maybe it’s in my head, but the 97a OJ/Slimeballs feel a bit sluggish to me. These ones feel faster. For being only two points softer they feel pretty different
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Thanks for the insight. I felt the same, was pretty dissapointed with the wheels. Now I have got to decide between these or 97 58 conical fulls....


Not sure about anyone else, but if there are F4 97duro 58mm conical full wheels still out there, I don't think they would be out there for long.

People have been snapping them up and I don't think there are going to be any more.

Get them while you can.

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« Reply #4341 on: November 15, 2021, 04:36:14 PM »
No more 97a F4s or 58mm conical fulls?

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« Reply #4342 on: November 15, 2021, 09:04:22 PM »
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Thanks dudes! Yeah, 97a is what I was leaning toward. OJ, bones, or maybe even satori or Santa Cruz.
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https://nhsfunfactory.com/products/60mm-oj-ii-original-white-combo-95a-oj-skateboard-wheels

If you can deal with the extra width, these wheels are pretty great. Super grippy while still being pretty fast.
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I have the 97a teamrider iis and am pretty tempted by these... adore the way they look and the 97a that i have isnt big enough of a difference to be worth the sacrifice of hard wheels
[close]

Maybe it’s in my head, but the 97a OJ/Slimeballs feel a bit sluggish to me. These ones feel faster. For being only two points softer they feel pretty different
[close]
Thanks for the insight. I felt the same, was pretty dissapointed with the wheels. Now I have got to decide between these or 97 58 conical fulls....
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Not sure about anyone else, but if there are F4 97duro 58mm conical full wheels still out there, I don't think they would be out there for long.

People have been snapping them up and I don't think there are going to be any more.

Get them while you can.

Tactics has em for us US folks

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« Reply #4343 on: November 16, 2021, 05:51:40 AM »
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yes! Get some 56mm v-cuts
I helped get them in my shop so I could get a pair. To show their thanks they are going to send me a little box. I'm stoked. I'm getting the 54 mm conical shape.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #4344 on: November 16, 2021, 05:54:22 AM »
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Not sure about anyone else, but if there are F4 97duro 58mm conical full wheels still out there, I don't think they would be out there for long.

People have been snapping them up and I don't think there are going to be any more.

Get them while you can.
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Tactics has em for us US folks

Damn, 24 sets still showing in stock, which is pretty cool.

https://www.tactics.com/spitfire/formula-four-conical-full-skateboard-wheels/natural-teal-97d


I might have been mistaken, as I rechecked the catalog so it might be the 56mm that is no longer being made, with the 54 and 58 being the standard lines.

People are still wanting the old 58mm conical full wheels in 99 too, but I don't think they will be coming back any time soon.

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« Reply #4345 on: November 16, 2021, 06:39:24 AM »
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Are loophole good wheels?
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yes! Get some 56mm v-cuts
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I helped get them in my shop so I could get a pair. To show their thanks they are going to send me a little box. I'm stoked. I'm getting the 54 mm conical shape.
oh yeah! You’ll be stoked on them, I’m sure

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« Reply #4346 on: November 16, 2021, 06:42:12 AM »
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Thanks dudes! Yeah, 97a is what I was leaning toward. OJ, bones, or maybe even satori or Santa Cruz.
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https://nhsfunfactory.com/products/60mm-oj-ii-original-white-combo-95a-oj-skateboard-wheels

If you can deal with the extra width, these wheels are pretty great. Super grippy while still being pretty fast.
[close]
I have the 97a teamrider iis and am pretty tempted by these... adore the way they look and the 97a that i have isnt big enough of a difference to be worth the sacrifice of hard wheels
[close]

Maybe it’s in my head, but the 97a OJ/Slimeballs feel a bit sluggish to me. These ones feel faster. For being only two points softer they feel pretty different
[close]
Thanks for the insight. I felt the same, was pretty dissapointed with the wheels. Now I have got to decide between these or 97 58 conical fulls....
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Not sure about anyone else, but if there are F4 97duro 58mm conical full wheels still out there, I don't think they would be out there for long.

People have been snapping them up and I don't think there are going to be any more.

Get them while you can.

Why do you say that? Do you mean no more 58s, or no more 97s?

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« Reply #4347 on: November 16, 2021, 06:49:47 AM »
I got a pair of 58 97s for my wife’s board actually, feel really great on crusty surfaces

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« Reply #4348 on: November 16, 2021, 07:13:35 AM »
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Thanks dudes! Yeah, 97a is what I was leaning toward. OJ, bones, or maybe even satori or Santa Cruz.
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https://nhsfunfactory.com/products/60mm-oj-ii-original-white-combo-95a-oj-skateboard-wheels

If you can deal with the extra width, these wheels are pretty great. Super grippy while still being pretty fast.
[close]
I have the 97a teamrider iis and am pretty tempted by these... adore the way they look and the 97a that i have isnt big enough of a difference to be worth the sacrifice of hard wheels
[close]

Maybe it’s in my head, but the 97a OJ/Slimeballs feel a bit sluggish to me. These ones feel faster. For being only two points softer they feel pretty different
[close]
Thanks for the insight. I felt the same, was pretty dissapointed with the wheels. Now I have got to decide between these or 97 58 conical fulls....
[close]


Not sure about anyone else, but if there are F4 97duro 58mm conical full wheels still out there, I don't think they would be out there for long.

People have been snapping them up and I don't think there are going to be any more.

Get them while you can.
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Why do you say that? Do you mean no more 58s, or no more 97s?

no 97s in the spring 22 dlx catalog, bummer. i'd post it up but the link has expired. there's a new shape though, radial full.



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« Reply #4349 on: November 16, 2021, 07:54:29 AM »
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yes! Get some 56mm v-cuts
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I helped get them in my shop so I could get a pair. To show their thanks they are going to send me a little box. I'm stoked. I'm getting the 54 mm conical shape.
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oh yeah! You’ll be stoked on them, I’m sure
Thanks for the response. I look forward to getting them tomorrow.