Wheels Thread

[Ride it to dust]

Has anyone tried the powell g-slides? Think they’ve been around a couple years but just stumbled across them now.

[Banned from the room]

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Not that fast so far.

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It's going to depend on the terrain...they are 93s after all; also, no one, anywhere, has ever said they were fast; if anyone buying is thinking they're getting a fast wheel, they've not been following the plethora of feedback on this forum/in this thread (or elsewhere around the net), just sayin'...

58 dragons on shit pavement will, however, be faster than any 99a+ wheel tho...

I definitely should have copped the g bones. I think an extra 6mm would have gotten me to the speed I need.  I am stoked tho. This wheels shape is so good. They bark too. I was worried about that. It's a nice sound. I'm getting ready to go to the diy on the way to the graffiti shop that has the worst ground around.

In like 2 weeks I'll know everything probably.

So far it's fun af

[Sundaynuggets]

Has anyone tried the powell g-slides? Think they’ve been around a couple years but just stumbled across them now.

Yeah, I’ve had a couple sets. They slide ok for the first session or two and then they get grippy like any other cruiser wheel. The bombers work way better as a soft cruiser wheel that slides (for power slides, not good for ledge trucks)

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1 session in and so far I'm pretty underwhelmed by the Bones X formula. I have the 56 V6 shape in both the dragons and x formula and to me they feel pretty similar. The only difference I found was the x formula were definitely faster and roll through crusty about 90% as good as the dragons. Also, idk if it's just the first sesh but the dragons actually broke into slides easier which was a little surprising. My disappointment comes from there not really that much of a difference between the two wheels. Overall they're not bad but I was hoping they'd be a little harder feeling and have a little better slide. They're fun for a secondary setup but I think I'm just gonna stick to spitfire f4 97's on my main board.

[bombsaway86]

1 session in and so far I'm pretty underwhelmed by the Bones X formula. I have the 56 V6 shape in both the dragons and x formula and to me they feel pretty similar. The only difference I found was the x formula were definitely faster and roll through crusty about 90% as good as the dragons. Also, idk if it's just the first sesh but the dragons actually broke into slides easier which was a little surprising. My disappointment comes from there not really that much of a difference between the two wheels. Overall they're not bad but I was hoping they'd be a little harder feeling and have a little better slide. They're fun for a secondary setup but I think I'm just gonna stick to spitfire f4 97's on my main board.

Have you ridden them in a smooth park yet? The general consensus is that dragons aren’t good in parks/bowls. I’m wondering if maybe the Bones X formula might do better since it’s harder and faster?

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1 session in and so far I'm pretty underwhelmed by the Bones X formula. I have the 56 V6 shape in both the dragons and x formula and to me they feel pretty similar. The only difference I found was the x formula were definitely faster and roll through crusty about 90% as good as the dragons. Also, idk if it's just the first sesh but the dragons actually broke into slides easier which was a little surprising. My disappointment comes from there not really that much of a difference between the two wheels. Overall they're not bad but I was hoping they'd be a little harder feeling and have a little better slide. They're fun for a secondary setup but I think I'm just gonna stick to spitfire f4 97's on my main board.

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Have you ridden them in a smooth park yet? The general consensus is that dragons aren’t good in parks/bowls. I’m wondering if maybe the Bones X formula might do better since it’s harder and faster?

That's exactly where I skated them. I took a mid skate session mission to 7/11 and the chunky streets around the park as well. My local is really smooth and the x formula are definitely faster than the dragons but they still grip just a little too much. These were brand new out of the package so I thought they'd be a little slick but they did the opposite and gripped too much. I'm thinking I need to wear off that first layer of urethane so I'll definitely give them another shot there after they break in more. The one thing that did impress me was they rode over crusty ground pretty much as well as the dragons do, maybe a small amount more vibration.
I think these wheels definitely have a purpose in the streets much like the dragons but I do 95% of my skating at the local park and the spitfire 97 just work better for me there. Overall they're great but my expectations were a little let down seeing as the 2 wheels are so similar.

[Banned from the room]

Beware Wet black top on new dragons.

I just did a 20-30' backside slider dragging my fingertips because some kook ass yuppies went to go gadget jersey barrier in front the exit of the parking garage. Trying to flex they security guard muscle on a mofo. Street was empty

A young on looker shouted AWESOME SPEED or something. Distraction needed to let it go with just some words.

Stupid fucking tourists tried to kill my ass. I was definitely heated but I chilled it

[Banned from the room]

fixed sorry about the quadruple post. my phone is pissed at me or something

[Ride it to dust]

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Has anyone tried the powell g-slides? Think they’ve been around a couple years but just stumbled across them now.

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Yeah, I’ve had a couple sets. They slide ok for the first session or two and then they get grippy like any other cruiser wheel. The bombers work way better as a soft cruiser wheel that slides (for power slides, not good for ledge trucks)

Thanks for the heads up on them, was hoping they were going to slide on curbs etc but will keep an eye out for something else.

[goodatmeth]

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1 session in and so far I'm pretty underwhelmed by the Bones X formula. I have the 56 V6 shape in both the dragons and x formula and to me they feel pretty similar. The only difference I found was the x formula were definitely faster and roll through crusty about 90% as good as the dragons. Also, idk if it's just the first sesh but the dragons actually broke into slides easier which was a little surprising. My disappointment comes from there not really that much of a difference between the two wheels. Overall they're not bad but I was hoping they'd be a little harder feeling and have a little better slide. They're fun for a secondary setup but I think I'm just gonna stick to spitfire f4 97's on my main board.

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Have you ridden them in a smooth park yet? The general consensus is that dragons aren’t good in parks/bowls. I’m wondering if maybe the Bones X formula might do better since it’s harder and faster?

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That's exactly where I skated them. I took a mid skate session mission to 7/11 and the chunky streets around the park as well. My local is really smooth and the x formula are definitely faster than the dragons but they still grip just a little too much. These were brand new out of the package so I thought they'd be a little slick but they did the opposite and gripped too much. I'm thinking I need to wear off that first layer of urethane so I'll definitely give them another shot there after they break in more. The one thing that did impress me was they rode over crusty ground pretty much as well as the dragons do, maybe a small amount more vibration.
I think these wheels definitely have a purpose in the streets much like the dragons but I do 95% of my skating at the local park and the spitfire 97 just work better for me there. Overall they're great but my expectations were a little let down seeing as the 2 wheels are so similar.

That's confusing because it seemed (from ben degros video and slap posts) like even the dragons slide much better than spit 97a? What's your experience, are your spits sliding better?

[Lee Ralphs Dear Old Mum]

Beware Wet black top on new dragons.

I just did a 20-30' backside slider dragging my fingertips because some kook ass yuppies went to go gadget jersey barrier in front the exit of the parking garage. Trying to flex they security guard muscle on a mofo. Street was empty

A young on looker shouted AWESOME SPEED or something. Distraction needed to let it go with just some words.

Stupid fucking tourists tried to kill my ass. I was definitely heated but I chilled it

Sounds like that would have been a glorious death.

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1 session in and so far I'm pretty underwhelmed by the Bones X formula. I have the 56 V6 shape in both the dragons and x formula and to me they feel pretty similar. The only difference I found was the x formula were definitely faster and roll through crusty about 90% as good as the dragons. Also, idk if it's just the first sesh but the dragons actually broke into slides easier which was a little surprising. My disappointment comes from there not really that much of a difference between the two wheels. Overall they're not bad but I was hoping they'd be a little harder feeling and have a little better slide. They're fun for a secondary setup but I think I'm just gonna stick to spitfire f4 97's on my main board.

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Have you ridden them in a smooth park yet? The general consensus is that dragons aren’t good in parks/bowls. I’m wondering if maybe the Bones X formula might do better since it’s harder and faster?

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That's exactly where I skated them. I took a mid skate session mission to 7/11 and the chunky streets around the park as well. My local is really smooth and the x formula are definitely faster than the dragons but they still grip just a little too much. These were brand new out of the package so I thought they'd be a little slick but they did the opposite and gripped too much. I'm thinking I need to wear off that first layer of urethane so I'll definitely give them another shot there after they break in more. The one thing that did impress me was they rode over crusty ground pretty much as well as the dragons do, maybe a small amount more vibration.
I think these wheels definitely have a purpose in the streets much like the dragons but I do 95% of my skating at the local park and the spitfire 97 just work better for me there. Overall they're great but my expectations were a little let down seeing as the 2 wheels are so similar.

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That's confusing because it seemed (from ben degros video and slap posts) like even the dragons slide much better than spit 97a? What's your experience, are your spits sliding better?

For me the spitfire 97 feel more like a normal f4 wheel that have a little extra grip and the dragons/x formula feel like a cruiser wheel you can do tricks on. Another thing I didn't mention was the spits are faster than the dragons/x formula on smooth ground imo. The slide on the dragons is very nice on the smooth ground at my local but it's harder to get into the slide than on crusty/imperfect ground. The spits on the other hand go into slides easier but feel less controlled when you're sliding. I see the difference between them as kinda similar to the round rail vs square rail debate ex: The dragons are a square rail, easier to lock in but less room for adjusting where as spit 97's are the round rail where it's scarier to get in but you have more maneuverability. I just prefer the ease of getting into the slide on the spits rather than the locked in feeling of the dragons/formula at my local. However if it's an actual street spot or something crusty the dragons/x formula are way better than the spits on that terrain.

[Sloppy Krooks]

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Interesting. Almost everyone else I’ve heard talk about them (and my own experience on the prototypes) is that they slide better on rougher ground.

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Interesting. Almost everyone else I’ve heard talk about them (and my own experience on the prototypes) is that they slide better on rougher ground.

That was my experience, caught me off guard, almost slid out on rougher asphalt just carving hard the first few times.

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Interesting. Almost everyone else I’ve heard talk about them (and my own experience on the prototypes) is that they slide better on rougher ground.

I also rode some of the prototypes and that's definitely the case with the dragon/x formula and what makes those wheels special. On rougher ground the dragons/x just roll over everything and slide amazing. If I skated actual street spots more often and had to cruise around more the dragons would be all I skate. It really doesn't make sense how they perform so well on rough ground.

[switchfrontshuv]

Apparently Spitfire is coming out with a new formula soon, planned for spring/summer 2023

from what I heard from my friend and DLX its called something like the "nutter" or "dutter" formula and its meant to be something similar to an OJ super juice 78A

not my kind of wheel but i see the growing market, and spitfire has really bad cruiser wheels as of current (cored 80HD chargers)

[LebowskisRug]

If the street spot wasn't chunky I don't see why you'd want a Dragon or X-formula. Is that what you all mean- a crusty street spot? I mostly skate ledges and normal spots and can't see them having an advantage esp if it's a cement plaza or something.

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If the street spot wasn't chunky I don't see why you'd want a Dragon or X-formula. Is that what you all mean- a crusty street spot? I mostly skate ledges and normal spots and can't see them having an advantage esp if it's a cement plaza or something.

If you're at plaza or somewhere with decent ground then of course they're not ideal. The majority of the street spots where I'm at are pretty chewed up so I guess I should have prefaced that when I said "actual street spots". Personally, they only place the where the dragons/x formula weren't good was on super smooth ground. I didn't get enough drag on grinds or slides to slow down or pitch me like some people have but to each their own.

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Beware Wet black top on new dragons.

I just did a 20-30' backside slider dragging my fingertips because some kook ass yuppies went to go gadget jersey barrier in front the exit of the parking garage. Trying to flex they security guard muscle on a mofo. Street was empty

A young on looker shouted AWESOME SPEED or something. Distraction needed to let it go with just some words.

Stupid fucking tourists tried to kill my ass. I was definitely heated but I chilled it

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Sounds like that would have been a glorious death.

It's supposed to be a meter maid in San Francisco or else the the prophecy won't be fulfilled. Has to be lots of other skaters watching and I gotta be like 90 years old. Must be cooking switch too.

The world is at stake here

[Banned from the room]

Apparently Spitfire is coming out with a new formula soon, planned for spring/summer 2023

from what I heard from my friend and DLX its called something like the "nutter" or "dutter" formula and its meant to be something similar to an OJ super juice 78A

not my kind of wheel but i see the growing market, and spitfire has really bad cruiser wheels as of current (cored 80HD chargers)

I must have got a lucky set. My 80hd experience was positive AF. I had a set of Super Balls I copped at Brick house right before they closed. Local wheels I think. Lasted all the way to 2014 when I ripped the core out bombing down to a Rugg Road show. Probably Neighborhood Shit and Opposition Rising.

The next day I went and copped the natural 80hd at 53 and got them into the mid 40s by 2016. Then I met Dizzy and he hooked me up with an 8.5 one gig board and I copped all new shit including hard wheels to match.

I still got the 80hd wheels they're in good shape considering how small they got. I can slide them too but when you snap back to forward your still going the same speed as before more or less.

I feel they are more for cruising around against Chinatown traffic and shit. You know when slowing down or second guessing yourself means potential death. Light tricks like step hop... Step hop front big spin high speed back 80 pivot 360 and hill bomb Manny stuff.

Once the got small they did slappies better 

The Dragons feel pretty close to that in ride except they slide obviously. A little ruffer ride too.

Dragons remind me of the old Powell 95a formula from the late 80s on dusty Masonite.

[Lee Ralphs Dear Old Mum]

Apparently Spitfire is coming out with a new formula soon, planned for spring/summer 2023

from what I heard from my friend and DLX its called something like the "nutter" or "dutter" formula and its meant to be something similar to an OJ super juice 78A

not my kind of wheel but i see the growing market, and spitfire has really bad cruiser wheels as of current (cored 80HD chargers)

Nice. I figured they'd up their soft wheel game at some point.

[manysnakes]

If the street spot wasn't chunky I don't see why you'd want a Dragon or X-formula. Is that what you all mean- a crusty street spot? I mostly skate ledges and normal spots and can't see them having an advantage esp if it's a cement plaza or something.

Exactly what I would expect to hear from a Southern Californian.

[manysnakes]

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Apparently Spitfire is coming out with a new formula soon, planned for spring/summer 2023

from what I heard from my friend and DLX its called something like the "nutter" or "dutter" formula and its meant to be something similar to an OJ super juice 78A

not my kind of wheel but i see the growing market, and spitfire has really bad cruiser wheels as of current (cored 80HD chargers)

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Nice. I figured they'd up their soft wheel game at some point.

I have some Mini Juice wheels are they are seriously great - just a ton of fun. If Spitfire wants my money, they could make something comparable in the ~52-55mm range, maybe something a little less cruiser and more dialed for "street" skating.

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Apparently Spitfire is coming out with a new formula soon, planned for spring/summer 2023

from what I heard from my friend and DLX its called something like the "nutter" or "dutter" formula and its meant to be something similar to an OJ super juice 78A

not my kind of wheel but i see the growing market, and spitfire has really bad cruiser wheels as of current (cored 80HD chargers)

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Nice. I figured they'd up their soft wheel game at some point.

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I have some Mini Juice wheels are they are seriously great - just a ton of fun. If Spitfire wants my money, they could make something comparable in the ~52-55mm range, maybe something a little less cruiser and more dialed for "street" skating.

This. I still want to try the 87 Super Juice. Have the 78s on my cruiser.

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F4 Og classic 66s.

[LebowskisRug]

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If the street spot wasn't chunky I don't see why you'd want a Dragon or X-formula. Is that what you all mean- a crusty street spot? I mostly skate ledges and normal spots and can't see them having an advantage esp if it's a cement plaza or something.

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Exactly what I would expect to hear from a Southern Californian.

There is no asphalt here, we're all just doing loops in Poods indefinitely.

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I tried a bunch of wheels today at the diy.

X formula in 56mm is so nice. It's competitive with F4 99 a which is my favorite wheel. Colour was sick too. No tread on them as well.
Definitely recommend.
Then I tried the DF 60 mm rat bones. Insane how good those are. I think with dragons wider is better. Both wheels was wider than my 58mm rat bones 2
 
I'm happy af still tho. No body pain full day session on pretty gnarly ground with wood ramps and a bunch of slappie curbs. So fun. Glad it was 60⁰ almost in the first day of the year.

The apocalypse has never been so good. 

My impossibles on the bank are really good rn too.

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I have no access to the new Bones wheels atm but got some OJ keyframes that I'm saving for my summer cruiser. Would the work in dusty wooden indoor skateparks, mostly for miniramp? Too grippy for that?

[Mbrimson88]

I have no access to the new Bones wheels atm but got some OJ keyframes that I'm saving for my summer cruiser. Would the work in dusty wooden indoor skateparks, mostly for miniramp? Too grippy for that?

I would say as long as you don't go into it thinking they are going to skate like normal (harder) wheels, they should be fine.

Given that sort of wheel will feel slower and really grip a lot, just make sure anything that turns is landed correctly, more so than sliding the board around, but in general I have skated cruiser board wheels like those at slippery wooden parks and they still go well enough, but I did have to catch myself more than once when a harder wheel would have helped me land whatever it was I was trying.

Err on the side of caution for everything like that and feel the park out and you will get it easily enough - I would rather grip too much than slip out too much though, but that is just me.

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I have no access to the new Bones wheels atm but got some OJ keyframes that I'm saving for my summer cruiser. Would the work in dusty wooden indoor skateparks, mostly for miniramp? Too grippy for that?

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I would say as long as you don't go into it thinking they are going to skate like normal (harder) wheels, they should be fine.

Given that sort of wheel will feel slower and really grip a lot, just make sure anything that turns is landed correctly, more so than sliding the board around, but in general I have skated cruiser board wheels like those at slippery wooden parks and they still go well enough, but I did have to catch myself more than once when a harder wheel would have helped me land whatever it was I was trying.

Err on the side of caution for everything like that and feel the park out and you will get it easily enough - I would rather grip too much than slip out too much though, but that is just me.

Thanks! I've ridden the 78a before so I'm kind of used to softer wheels but they were way too grippy and sluggish for parks. I was wondering how different  the 87a would be so I decided to give them a try. I'm on 99d Spits right now so they will definitely feel different.