Wheels Thread

[Easy Slider]

Has anyone experience with standard ace trucks with 58 mm wheels, i skate the trucks on the looser side, should i try it or will the wheelbites be way too bad?

I have wide 58s on Ace 55s on a cruiser/slappy set up. I run it with risers, not much wheelbite and I run them rather loose (nut flush with flat wahsers).

[bombsaway86]

Has anyone experience with standard ace trucks with 58 mm wheels, i skate the trucks on the looser side, should i try it or will the wheelbites be way too bad?

I use 1/8” risers with 58s and wheelbite is not an issue

[caiiro]

Has anybody recently tried the spitfire burners?

[heinzketchup]

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Has anyone experience with standard ace trucks with 58 mm wheels, i skate the trucks on the looser side, should i try it or will the wheelbites be way too bad?

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I use 1/8” risers with 58s and wheelbite is not an issue

thanks guys, i should have said that i usually dont ride risers
i usually skate 56 mm wheels but the shop didnt have any
i will try it without risers, if its too bad i will get some

[Xen]

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I also tried 103a STF for the first time and they are wicked, I love em coming from x99 they make X99 feel mushy, without going too far the other way of being uncomfortably hard (honestly they don't even feel hard at all).

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I finally tried some Bones wheels (103a, V3 Slims). They’re fast, but feel softer than my 99a Spitfires. I thought the smaller contact patch would = instant death when I hit a pebble, but the speed just destroyed them lol.

Overall great wheels, just gotta get used to the softer, plastic-like sound.

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The 'new' 103a (and the 99a) are nowhere near as hard as what people remember STFs being; BONES changed everything up when thy tried to chase spit by making their wheels brown (dirty birds, then naturals). Current 103 STFs are way more offwhite and are much more forgiving than a proper 101, let alone a 103 - closer to a 99a (but not the bones 99).  Shame really for those that like the old STF feel.

V3 is always the wheel I default too eventually. Thin (more hanger room), light, great wheel shape.

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Did this switch happen in 2019? I noticed a slight change but I switched to wider ones so thought it was just that.

Looks like the thin bright white is back!
https://www.skateone.com/bones-wheels-stf-skateboard-wheels-salmon-dinner-54mm-v3-slims-103a-4pk-white

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Not sure when it happened but it for sure did. That photo isn't what they'll look like tho. Just as dirty off-white as usual. The last  sets of STFs I've ridden were off-white, not bright white.

Nice to see some V2/V3s hitting, will snag some.

THIS is what they used to be:

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scroll down to the similar items, you see the 99a dirty off white side by side. We won't know until they are in hand but I I trust them when Kam told me are making a batch of original 103 formula and happy to see them back on the site.

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I'm happy to eat my words and I WANT to be wrong, I really do; I'm one of the few (if the only vocal) STF rider here, but in the wake of X-formula, using the term 'original STF' is just to say we're making STFs (not x-form); no way in hell they'd ever admit to changing the STF formula (which they did).

They're going to be off white.

You are also not looking at the current STFs on their own, YES they are brighter than the dirty 99s, but the 103s are NOT white, not now or what they used to be. I know this because I actually ride/buy them regularly (just last month in fact).

If they brought back the OLD, HARD, bone ass WHITE STFs, it'd be a miracle,

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/search-skate.html?start=0&count=200&searchtext=stfespecially given how successful the softer spit, by comparison (101/99a/93), and dragons/x-formula onions are.

From the latest run, same old off white STFs as they have been for a minute now. V2 will have to be my radial slim fix.



Also, if anyone actually skates them, SW has their pricing weird, (other online shops are all 34.95 that I've seen so far), both the V2 and V4 STF 99s and 103s pricing are $24 (one set of V3 99a is as well) while V3/V1 are $35 (and not basesd on size like spit does/allows places like SW to do).

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/search-skate.html?start=0&count=200&searchtext=stf

[rikki]

Regarding wheel durability -- lot of posts in several threads about how some of the new generation softer wheels (Soft Sliders, X-Formula, Dragons) wear out hella fast.

Just to chime in: I've been on 55mm X99s for a good while now (several months, 1-3 sessions per week on average), and skated a lot of very shitty and crusty spots (with some smoother parks thrown in the mix), combined with repeated powersliding on my home stretch which is a fun crusty downhill.

Just calipered the wheels yesterday, and they're all still at minimum of 54.5mm, no joke.

I know, I don't skate every day, but still, for me this equals as pretty durable for a "softer" wheel.

[j....soy.....]

A bunch of years back, I emailed Powell and they were pretty responsive about sharing info on product. 

I tried someone’s spitfire classics and it felt so familiar, like vulc shoes….but like vulc shoes, I kinda know it’s best to air on the side of longevity….

[Too Frank To Fred]

Regarding wheel durability -- lot of posts in several threads about how some of the new generation softer wheels (Soft Sliders, X-Formula, Dragons) wear out hella fast.

Just to chime in: I've been on 55mm X99s for a good while now (several months, 1-3 sessions per week on average), and skated a lot of very shitty and crusty spots (with some smoother parks thrown in the mix), combined with repeated powersliding on my home stretch which is a fun crusty downhill.

Just calipered the wheels yesterday, and they're all still at minimum of 54.5mm, no joke.

I know, I don't skate every day, but still, for me this equals as pretty durable for a "softer" wheel.

how is 99 a 'soft' wheel?

[j....soy.....]

Have you tried them?

[Too Frank To Fred]

Me? I tried the 97 X formula. Great wheels. Not my cuppa but def good wheels and not soft by definition and actual feel.

I wouldn't even consider the Dragon 93s a soft wheel.

[j....soy.....]

101 and up were the standard like 30 years, this new formula feels softer too….so yes an X99 is soft…. Give it five years

[Too Frank To Fred]

softer

I'll give you that.

[Mbrimson88]

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I still hear from some older "street skaters" that any Spitfire 99 duro wheels are "too soft" which always makes me laugh a little on the inside, but compared to some of the other older bowl skater types, who think almost any of these normal wheels are too hard, it seems it is definitely down to personal preference.

Can't say I have had much experience on any of the X formula from Bones, only one roll on a board with X97s on a fairly new skatepark and they felt a lot like my Spitfire 97s only a little different, but I can see why some people would be all over the X97 and X99s for various things, if it allows for a little more give than other normal / harder wheels.


The Spitfire 99 duro wheel I think might always be my base level as far as what a normal 99 duro wheel feels like - more so in Formula Four than original, but I still have enough of both to feel the slight differences and appreciate them for what they are too.

Skating some of the other formulas and duro options in Spitfire, Bones and others is always fun, but I know what works best on pretty much everything for me anyway.

[Jackismydogsname]

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I also tried 103a STF for the first time and they are wicked, I love em coming from x99 they make X99 feel mushy, without going too far the other way of being uncomfortably hard (honestly they don't even feel hard at all).

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I finally tried some Bones wheels (103a, V3 Slims). They’re fast, but feel softer than my 99a Spitfires. I thought the smaller contact patch would = instant death when I hit a pebble, but the speed just destroyed them lol.

Overall great wheels, just gotta get used to the softer, plastic-like sound.

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The 'new' 103a (and the 99a) are nowhere near as hard as what people remember STFs being; BONES changed everything up when thy tried to chase spit by making their wheels brown (dirty birds, then naturals). Current 103 STFs are way more offwhite and are much more forgiving than a proper 101, let alone a 103 - closer to a 99a (but not the bones 99).  Shame really for those that like the old STF feel.

V3 is always the wheel I default too eventually. Thin (more hanger room), light, great wheel shape.

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Did this switch happen in 2019? I noticed a slight change but I switched to wider ones so thought it was just that.

Looks like the thin bright white is back!
https://www.skateone.com/bones-wheels-stf-skateboard-wheels-salmon-dinner-54mm-v3-slims-103a-4pk-white

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Not sure when it happened but it for sure did. That photo isn't what they'll look like tho. Just as dirty off-white as usual. The last  sets of STFs I've ridden were off-white, not bright white.

Nice to see some V2/V3s hitting, will snag some.

THIS is what they used to be:

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scroll down to the similar items, you see the 99a dirty off white side by side. We won't know until they are in hand but I I trust them when Kam told me are making a batch of original 103 formula and happy to see them back on the site.

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I'm happy to eat my words and I WANT to be wrong, I really do; I'm one of the few (if the only vocal) STF rider here, but in the wake of X-formula, using the term 'original STF' is just to say we're making STFs (not x-form); no way in hell they'd ever admit to changing the STF formula (which they did).

They're going to be off white.

You are also not looking at the current STFs on their own, YES they are brighter than the dirty 99s, but the 103s are NOT white, not now or what they used to be. I know this because I actually ride/buy them regularly (just last month in fact).

If they brought back the OLD, HARD, bone ass WHITE STFs, it'd be a miracle,

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/search-skate.html?start=0&count=200&searchtext=stfespecially given how successful the softer spit, by comparison (101/99a/93), and dragons/x-formula onions are.

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From the latest run, same old off white STFs as they have been for a minute now. V2 will have to be my radial slim fix.



Also, if anyone actually skates them, SW has their pricing weird, (other online shops are all 34.95 that I've seen so far), both the V2 and V4 STF 99s and 103s pricing are $24 (one set of V3 99a is as well) while V3/V1 are $35 (and not basesd on size like spit does/allows places like SW to do).

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/search-skate.html?start=0&count=200&searchtext=stf

 You where right.
I'm sorry to disappoint. They went from them not being on the site at all to hearing they where fully coming back. I am going with the x99s from now on or the new Spitfire blend.

[drinny]

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I just realized that Bones/powell did come out with the nano rat 97a which is a wider wheel for powell.

Will they release a wide 99a wheel in smaller diameter?

Only a matter of time.

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They already had the nano cubic and omega out before the nanos.

as far as I could work out from measurements, the nano cubics and nano rats, at least around 52-54mm seem almost the same shape, just the cubics are bearings offset and the rats center set.

barely a quarter inch in it

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https://powell-peralta.com/powell-peralta-dragon-formula-skateboard-wheels-56mm-x-40mm-88-4pk

Apparenrly, they're coming out with 88a Dragons. If these work more like a cruiser wheel (and powerslide somehow) then I'm all set. I like the 93a for my normal street wheel.

[rikki]

https://powell-peralta.com/powell-peralta-dragon-formula-skateboard-wheels-56mm-x-40mm-88-4pk

Apparenrly, they're coming out with 88a Dragons. If these work more like a cruiser wheel (and powerslide somehow) then I'm all set. I like the 93a for my normal street wheel.

Interesting. Hope they come out with a 58 or 60mm option for those.

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https://powell-peralta.com/powell-peralta-dragon-formula-skateboard-wheels-56mm-x-40mm-88-4pk

Apparenrly, they're coming out with 88a Dragons. If these work more like a cruiser wheel (and powerslide somehow) then I'm all set. I like the 93a for my normal street wheel.

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Interesting. Hope they come out with a 58 or 60mm option for those.

They list 54, 56, 60 and 64mm for the 88a. Intersting to see how these feel.

[Mulldrifter]

i bet they feel just like powell bombers they are 85a and around for ever, they do slide a lot for a cruiser wheels.

[JimmyFive]

i bet they feel just like powell bombers they are 85a and around for ever, they do slide a lot for a cruiser wheels.

I remember having some Bombers... Apparently the 60mm X99 "Omega" wheel Bones recently released is the old Bomber shape.. Can you confirm?

These new formulas are a lick faster and will break free much easier than the old formula PP/Bones poured the Bombers in I reckon. I've had some hairy moments sliding out unintentionally on Dragons, esp on rougher surfaces. Not so much a problem with the X97 and 99 weirdly.

[roba]

i won these wheels at a contest that are called "Slime Balls Vomit Mini II". it's a funny shape, super wide, slightly asymmetrical with the cut-in like sf conicals on one side and rounded off on the other, 56mm 97a. now i'm a spitfire guy for sure but since these were free and i've been skating street a lot more than park recently (and pretty much all of the spots out here are more or less crusty) i've decided to set them up. i'm waiting on the new f4 97s to hit this side of earth but hoped that these would work for the time being. i skated them at a concrete park for a bit just to see if they work in that setting and they were surprisingly good. i had some trouble lipsliding ledges but managed to land a few short ones, other than that no real issues. super fun to skate street too. the old 97 spits i had slid better but they were also classics and these are much wider so that might be a part of it. i'm now seeing that they're much cheaper than f4s too, so if anyone's looking for a half-soft wheel on a budget then these might be the answer. i will report back in a month or two to talk about the durability. haven't seen much about these wheels on the internet so thought i'd share my 2 cents.

[drinny]

https://powell-peralta.com/powell-peralta-dragon-formula-skateboard-wheels-56mm-x-40mm-88-4pk

Apparenrly, they're coming out with 88a Dragons. If these work more like a cruiser wheel (and powerslide somehow) then I'm all set. I like the 93a for my normal street wheel.

Keyframe killer !

[roba]

yapping about slime balls 97a wheels

skated them yesterday at a fresh park and the softness of the wheels fucked with crooked grinds a lot, i only landed one ledge crook and it's pretty much the easiest grind for me on other wheels. at a different park i could make them work but for some reason i couldn't push through them even though i waxed the ledge thoroughly. rails did not catch as much. also it was a lot harder to be in control of wheelbite. i ride loose trucks and i have wheelbite figured out to the point where i can use it to my advantage, but the soft wheels made it pretty sketchy. they also felt A LOT slower than f4s on this newly poured concrete. i went back to my trusted old f4 99s, looks like i'm just going to have to wait for the delfino 97s. those slime balls are going on my other board, a new deal reissue, i had some arbor 92a wheels on there and those slimeballs feel pretty similar but a little faster and more slideable. they're still super fun on street but i can't let my gear fuck with any of my limited ledge tricks. they're not bad wheels at all, but that session made me realize that keeping them on my regular set up will just be limiting to me, add the width to the equation and it's just too different.

[JimmyFive]

i won these wheels at a contest that are called "Slime Balls Vomit Mini II". it's a funny shape, super wide, slightly asymmetrical with the cut-in like sf conicals on one side and rounded off on the other, 56mm 97a. now i'm a spitfire guy for sure but since these were free and i've been skating street a lot more than park recently (and pretty much all of the spots out here are more or less crusty) i've decided to set them up. i'm waiting on the new f4 97s to hit this side of earth but hoped that these would work for the time being. i skated them at a concrete park for a bit just to see if they work in that setting and they were surprisingly good. i had some trouble lipsliding ledges but managed to land a few short ones, other than that no real issues. super fun to skate street too. the old 97 spits i had slid better but they were also classics and these are much wider so that might be a part of it. i'm now seeing that they're much cheaper than f4s too, so if anyone's looking for a half-soft wheel on a budget then these might be the answer. i will report back in a month or two to talk about the durability. haven't seen much about these wheels on the internet so thought i'd share my 2 cents.

Slime Balls are basically OJ's. Both NHS. That asymmetrical shape is the "mini-combo" shape that OJ use. IIRC the newer Slime Balls are also Elite formula.

[m477]

Recommendations on wheels for the glory hole full pipe at berryessa? Been on the bucket list for a while… thinking of something like 65mm 80a..

[Xen]

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i won these wheels at a contest that are called "Slime Balls Vomit Mini II". it's a funny shape, super wide, slightly asymmetrical with the cut-in like sf conicals on one side and rounded off on the other, 56mm 97a. now i'm a spitfire guy for sure but since these were free and i've been skating street a lot more than park recently (and pretty much all of the spots out here are more or less crusty) i've decided to set them up. i'm waiting on the new f4 97s to hit this side of earth but hoped that these would work for the time being. i skated them at a concrete park for a bit just to see if they work in that setting and they were surprisingly good. i had some trouble lipsliding ledges but managed to land a few short ones, other than that no real issues. super fun to skate street too. the old 97 spits i had slid better but they were also classics and these are much wider so that might be a part of it. i'm now seeing that they're much cheaper than f4s too, so if anyone's looking for a half-soft wheel on a budget then these might be the answer. i will report back in a month or two to talk about the durability. haven't seen much about these wheels on the internet so thought i'd share my 2 cents.

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Slime Balls are basically OJ's. Both NHS. That asymmetrical shape is the "mini-combo" shape that OJ use. IIRC the newer Slime Balls are also Elite formula.

If that's true I would have bit a few times, the speedballs shape is really, really nice:

[back smith]

Anyone tried Ricta Chrome Clouds 92A, how do they compare with 93A Dragons for example?

[Mulldrifter]

they stick much much much more (which isnt a bad thing to me but to most peoples it is)
i can carve them and make them slide gently while not being thrown off my board with the powell it's an instant stop powerslide.

[back smith]

they stick much much much more (which isnt a bad thing to me but to most peoples it is)
i can carve them and make them slide gently while not being thrown off my board with the powell it's an instant stop powerslide.

Thanks! How about the speed? Comparable?

[Mulldrifter]

hard to say but i would say dragons go faster