DLX Shapes

[FatGuy92]

just waiting to see what widths they put out

In the comments, Ben confirmed there will be an 8.38 with 14.5WB and 8.5 with 14.25WB, but no 8.06. So 8.25, 8.38, and 8.5. Makes sense since those are probably the most common sizes and DLX probably wants to see how well they sell first.

It’s interesting that the 8.25 is the only one with a smaller WB. I guess the 8.38 and 8.5 will just be the standard shapes but with fuller kicks, less concave, and less fingers of flat (also mentioned in the comments).

[JM]

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just waiting to see what widths they put out

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In the comments, Ben confirmed there will be an 8.38 with 14.5WB and 8.5 with 14.25WB, but no 8.06. So 8.25, 8.38, and 8.5. Makes sense since those are probably the most common sizes and DLX probably wants to see how well they sell first.

It’s interesting that the 8.25 is the only one with a smaller WB. I guess the 8.38 and 8.5 will just be the standard shapes but with fuller kicks, less concave, and less fingers of flat (also mentioned in the comments).

I’ll take an 8.38 x 14.5 wb pro one-off signed by the man himself, please.

[smg1138]

What DLX boards actually measure 8.25" across? I recently checked out at Krooked 8.25 but it actually measured more like 8 3/8" wide. I'm really trying to find a true 8.25" with a 14.25" wheelbase right now so I'd love to hear any suggestions.

[franc]

What DLX boards actually measure 8.25" across? I recently checked out at Krooked 8.25 but it actually measured more like 8 3/8" wide. I'm really trying to find a true 8.25" with a 14.25" wheelbase right now so I'd love to hear any suggestions.

Magenta boards are made in the same factory (BBS) and those come with correct dimensions (8.25 x 14.5). Exactly what you want, with a different graphic/logo.

Tell you what, I got 2 Anti Hero BAs that were labeled as 8.5s (Recycling Series), loved them, measured them, realized they were 8.4s, then got loads of Magenta Big Plant 8.4s (basically blanks with the Magenta logo) for really cheap as they were a year or two old. Those are similar to the BA boards I had before.
https://s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/magentaskateboards.com/Magenta-Skateboards/products/medium/Z3YUEAQSIX3frEZK8OsgG49erJSUCs1GylcYYDVk.jpeg

Same shit, different smell, plus you can have fun tarting them up with stickers.

[Idk]

Why does Deluxe mislabel sizes a lot? The Ishod 8.3 is really 8.25 and the 8.28 Julian Stranger shape is also 8.25.

[franc]

Why does Deluxe mislabel sizes a lot? The Ishod 8.3 is really 8.25 and the 8.28 Julian Stranger shape is also 8.25.

8.06 or 8.28 makes no sense anyway...
8, 8.125, 8.25 and so on please.

[smg1138]

Why does Deluxe mislabel sizes a lot? The Ishod 8.3 is really 8.25 and the 8.28 Julian Stranger shape is also 8.25.

Yeah it seems like DLX is notorious for doing this. I totally get that woodworking has tolerances, but for a deck to be off by 1/8" or more is pretty noticeable. I wish every company would do like Crailtap and have a shape guide with exact specs for all their decks.

[YMCMB]

Why does Deluxe mislabel sizes a lot? The Ishod 8.3 is really 8.25 and the 8.28 Julian Stranger shape is also 8.25.

8.28, 8.12, and 8.18 is to differentiate different shapes having longer/short wb etc.

[Mbrimson88]

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Why does Deluxe mislabel sizes a lot? The Ishod 8.3 is really 8.25 and the 8.28 Julian Stranger shape is also 8.25.

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8.06 or 8.28 makes no sense anyway...
8, 8.125, 8.25 and so on please.

The "DLX board sizes are always off" thread is here too:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=114805.0



I didn't realise but the 8.06 is actually 8 and one sixteenth, 8 1/16 board width, so there you go.  Someone brought that up the other day in conversation.  Can I really tell between an 8 and the 8.06 - they looked the same width between a few brands, but the shape is different.

As to all the DLX shapes / sizes, yeah I am used to it and just go with it, mainly because that is how it has always been with their shapes and sizes so I know what I am getting.


Finding it funny though as I always see / hear some people saying they are the correct measurements, others saying they are always too big, some even saying they are always too small, but I guess it depends on your measuring options, as well as the board in question.

Yes some do run big, some do run small, usually length and wheelbase are correct more often than not from what I have seen, just widths in some of the boards.

What DLX boards actually measure 8.25" across? I recently checked out at Krooked 8.25 but it actually measured more like 8 3/8" wide. I'm really trying to find a true 8.25" with a 14.25" wheelbase right now so I'd love to hear any suggestions.

Just to add to this, the 8.25 with 14.25 wheelbase is a very common combination, usually on about a 31.8 or so length, and seems like it is readily available from most board brands, so as Franc said, maybe check out some others if you find the usual DLX 8.25 is too big, which as you said is more like 8.3 x 32 with 14.38 wb.

Some people have said the black eagle is wider than 8.125 but that has 14.25 wb with 32 length if you check out that shape too, just to see.

[FatGuy92]

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Why does Deluxe mislabel sizes a lot? The Ishod 8.3 is really 8.25 and the 8.28 Julian Stranger shape is also 8.25.

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8.06 or 8.28 makes no sense anyway...
8, 8.125, 8.25 and so on please.

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The "DLX board sizes are always off" thread is here too:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=114805.0



I didn't realise but the 8.06 is actually 8 and one sixteenth, 8 1/16 board width, so there you go.  Someone brought that up the other day in conversation.  Can I really tell between an 8 and the 8.06 - they looked the same width between a few brands, but the shape is different.

As to all the DLX shapes / sizes, yeah I am used to it and just go with it, mainly because that is how it has always been with their shapes and sizes so I know what I am getting.


Finding it funny though as I always see / hear some people saying they are the correct measurements, others saying they are always too big, some even saying they are always too small, but I guess it depends on your measuring options, as well as the board in question.

Yes some do run big, some do run small, usually length and wheelbase are correct more often than not from what I have seen, just widths in some of the boards.

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What DLX boards actually measure 8.25" across? I recently checked out at Krooked 8.25 but it actually measured more like 8 3/8" wide. I'm really trying to find a true 8.25" with a 14.25" wheelbase right now so I'd love to hear any suggestions.

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Just to add to this, the 8.25 with 14.25 wheelbase is a very common combination, usually on about a 31.8 or so length, and seems like it is readily available from most board brands, so as Franc said, maybe check out some others if you find the usual DLX 8.25 is too big, which as you said is more like 8.3 x 32 with 14.38 wb.

Some people have said the black eagle is wider than 8.125 but that has 14.25 wb with 32 length if you check out that shape too, just to see.

I have a lightly skated 8.125 black eagle (marked III if I remember right) that I just measured for shits and giggles and it's 8.125 across the middle of the front/back truck holes and center of board. Weird how there's a variance with other board sizes like 8.25, 8.38. 8.5, but the 8.125 is bang on.

[Mbrimson88]

I have a lightly skated 8.125 black eagle (marked III if I remember right) that I just measured for shits and giggles and it's 8.125 across the middle of the front/back truck holes and center of board. Weird how there's a variance with other board sizes like 8.25, 8.38. 8.5, but the 8.125 is bang on.

Yes they all definitely seemed bang on the specified dimensions for that one, or should I say for all of those ones I had, which was a lot of black eagles over maybe a decade from around 2008 to 2018.

Other shapes that seem correct for width include the 8.06 x 31.8, the 8.5 x 32.18, the 8.62, the 8.75 and the 9.0 but even some of the shapes like the 8.75 taper a lot so going by the widest point, that is correct, but it ends up less than the 8.62 at the back end.


I am a bit special in that I like to have at least one of everything set up as a complete, if for nothing else than to be able to let people ride them to see what they are like, but some work way better than others for what they are, or even for who rides them, so there is no right or wrong options in that regard, only personal opinions and preferences.

Too many boards?  Absolutely, but it sure is nice to get one out and mess around on it from time to time, even just to remember why I did or didn't like that one for something, be it in a carpark, small ramp, skatepark or elsewhere.

[rikki]

I have a lightly skated 8.125 black eagle (marked III if I remember right) that I just measured for shits and giggles and it's 8.125 across the middle of the front/back truck holes and center of board. Weird how there's a variance with other board sizes like 8.25, 8.38. 8.5, but the 8.125 is bang on.

This is my experience as well. I have an 8.125 AH Kanfoush deck and it's exactly as wide as indicated. Whereas most of my AH 8.25s have been 8.38 in real life.

[Lou Strux]

Picked up a sparkly Eagle pressed in the Ben DeGros designed/approved Easy Riders concave.
Got the blue 8.5 that, as noted above in this thread, has the 14.25 WB.
Not thrilled about the glitter, but the concave is titillating enough to anyone who likes a mellow deck.
Both visually and underfoot, the difference is pretty apparent.
Kicks appear to be a lickle gentler, but the real diff is in how steep the rails are, or rather… are NOT.
To give you a point of reference: this Easy Rider is a #2 in the standard BBS (yes, Hecho en Mexico) 1-4 stack order used for DLX wood. When next to this standard mold #3 in the stack on a Krooked I have nearby, it is noticeably mellower.
There’s also a decent little piece of flat real estate between the bolts and the kick & the sweep from flat into full depth at the rail is extra mild/gradual.
Call me crazy, but I swear to gosh there’s a couple degrees of rocker on this thing too. Not even kidding!
Tips are pretty standard Deluxe fair: fairly full & round in the nose, just a little pointier at the tail.
Aside from the glitter, this looks like it’s going to be a real treat to try out. I haven’t set it up yet but I’m looking forward to taking a crack at Ben’s ideal expressed through concave.
Photos later if anyone’s interested, as well as my mostly worthless impressions, after I’ve actually had a go at it for a minute or two.

[art hellman]

would any of the shop people be able to get a pic of the noses of the eagle 8.25 next to the eaglge 8.38 next to the eagle 8.5, or even measure each of those noses for comparison purposes?

[Sedition]

would any of the shop people be able to get a pic of the noses of the eagle 8.25 next to the eaglge 8.38 next to the eagle 8.5, or even measure each of those noses for comparison purposes?

Hah. No shops are needed here. This is SLAP--prolly most of the regular posters in this thread all have each of those decks laying around. LOL. I have 8.25 and 8.5. Will post pics of them later.

[Mbrimson88]

would any of the shop people be able to get a pic of the noses of the eagle 8.25 next to the eaglge 8.38 next to the eagle 8.5, or even measure each of those noses for comparison purposes?

Hah. No shops are needed here. This is SLAP--prolly most of the regular posters in this thread all have each of those decks laying around. LOL. I have 8.25 and 8.5. Will post pics of them later.

Edit: @Sedition   I would like to see your pics and thoughts too, given I just used shop pics and info below.



Taking pics of these boards I have never really turns out how I would like, but looking at all three side by side, as well as viewing the tops from decent pics on some shop sites might help more than my blurry images.



The 8.38 (green eagle) is way more pointy in the nose and a little more pointy in the tail than the other two, quite a small feeling tail compared to some other shapes even though it is not so much smaller in measurements, straight through the rail and 8.38 is more like 8.48 as it is just under 8.5 in width.

The 8.25 (grey eagle) is a bit more stubby all round, but in no way full, very middle of the road shaped kicks on both ends, which is why it is the most popular shape DLX has, sometimes said to be wider than 8.25, 8.28 is subjective but definitely wider than other 8.25 width boards in most places by a mm or two.

The 8.5 (blue eagle) tapers from front to back, unlike the other two which are straight from front to back, nose a bit more blunt but not full and tail a bit more rounded, but not pointy.  Also the blue eagle can be more like 8.35 to 8.4 at the front bolts and barely over 8.25 to 8.3 at the back bolts, which is also why a lot of people like it for a smaller feeling board than the other 8.5 shapes, which are true 8.5 wide.


Tactics has pics of the tops of those three shapes, not in the eagles, but in other graphics that I know from size:

*** Make of this what you will but I feel like they are fairly accurate from measuring the boards I have here, in terms of nose and tails.  The images are huge, so I reduced the viewing size, but click on them for full size comparisons ***

SPECS
SIZE   8.25
LENGTH (IN):   32.0
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.38
NOSE (IN):   6.9
TAIL (IN):   6.625

https://www.tactics.com/a/ev9a/1b/anti-hero-doobie-pro-825-skateboard-deck-top.webp




SPECS
SIZE   8.38
LENGTH (IN):   32.25
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.5
NOSE (IN):   7.0
TAIL (IN):   6.56

https://www.tactics.com/a/f01g/1b/anti-hero-cardiel-carnales-838-skateboard-deck-top.webp




SPECS
SIZE   8.5
LENGTH (IN):   31.8
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.25
NOSE (IN):   6.875
TAIL (IN):   6.625

https://www.tactics.com/a/f01e/1b/anti-hero-anderson-space-odyssey-85-skateboard-deck-top.webp





Side by side, if the screen width allows it for you, but they are not to scale:

[art hellman]

thanks!  @Mbrimson88

I'm a big fan of a big nose and a lil longer tail.  I love love love the Manderson 8.38, but realize most 8.38s are pretty wacky when it comes to WB length.  I wish the 8.5 blue eagle was just a lil bit longer overall.  Might have to give the 8.25 a try sometime.

[Mbrimson88]

thanks!  @Mbrimson88

I'm a big fan of a big nose and a lil longer tail.  I love love love the Manderson 8.38, but realize most 8.38s are pretty wacky when it comes to WB length.  I wish the 8.5 blue eagle was just a lil bit longer overall.  Might have to give the 8.25 a try sometime.

Sometimes too many options, sometimes something just not quite what you are after - pretty much how it goes.


I recall you had Polar boards and others before, as well as talking with you (maybe) about the other 8.5 shape as well.

That is this one, which is also a good one if you want a decent shape that works for most things in the 8.5 department:


https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/daan-no-regerts-85-skateboard-deck/green


SPECS
SIZE   8.5
CENTER WIDTH (IN):   8.5
LENGTH (IN):   32.18
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.38
NOSE (IN):   7.0
TAIL (IN):   6.625






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Also back on page 67, you asked about and liked the Real Full SE shapes.  Did you end up getting any of those?


That is what you would have had on the longer 8.5 shape, the Knox being the longer 8.5 DLX board.

Krooked Knox 8.5
Indy 149ti (w/hollow cast plate/kp, indy aftermarket conical bushings, riptide)
SF F4 53mm Radial 99a
Swiss

[IUTSM]

I got 3 8.38 eagles in shrink from a homie in wild trade. Have yet to skate any of them. 8.5 Full SE is my fave shape if anyone wants to trade…

[144p]

Magenta boards are made in the same factory (BBS) and those come with correct dimensions (8.25 x 14.5). Exactly what you want, with a different graphic/logo.

Magenta is generator.
While similar to bbs they are different manufacturers.

[Idk]

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Magenta boards are made in the same factory (BBS) and those come with correct dimensions (8.25 x 14.5). Exactly what you want, with a different graphic/logo.

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Magenta is generator.
While similar to bbs they are different manufacturers.

I thought Generator was BBS but manufactured in the USA?

[overwaxed]

Generator distributes boards made at BBS
DLX is likely bbs’s biggest customer - they make thunders, ventures, and spitfires there - I actually wouldn’t be surprised if Jim T had some ownership in BBS. As far as I know generator is like a middle man for bbs for smaller brands that don’t hit bbs’s minimums directly - so generator boards are more stock shapes.

[Vintagebody]

I just measured my Krooked Una true mold deck. Its suppose to be 31,75. Its more like 31,45... No wonder I felt so cramped on it. Anyway... I'm tired of have slightly different board sizes. What are the most standard DLX decks, thats easly accesible? The eagles?

[art hellman]

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thanks!  @Mbrimson88

I'm a big fan of a big nose and a lil longer tail.  I love love love the Manderson 8.38, but realize most 8.38s are pretty wacky when it comes to WB length.  I wish the 8.5 blue eagle was just a lil bit longer overall.  Might have to give the 8.25 a try sometime.

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Sometimes too many options, sometimes something just not quite what you are after - pretty much how it goes.


I recall you had Polar boards and others before, as well as talking with you (maybe) about the other 8.5 shape as well.

That is this one, which is also a good one if you want a decent shape that works for most things in the 8.5 department:


https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/daan-no-regerts-85-skateboard-deck/green


SPECS
SIZE   8.5
CENTER WIDTH (IN):   8.5
LENGTH (IN):   32.18
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.38
NOSE (IN):   7.0
TAIL (IN):   6.625






Edit:


Also back on page 67, you asked about and liked the Real Full SE shapes.  Did you end up getting any of those?


That is what you would have had on the longer 8.5 shape, the Knox being the longer 8.5 DLX board.

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Krooked Knox 8.5
Indy 149ti (w/hollow cast plate/kp, indy aftermarket conical bushings, riptide)
SF F4 53mm Radial 99a
Swiss

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yea, I'm a fan of the 8.5 Full SE... the regular 8.5 DLX (both reg length and long) dont have wide enough noses for my taste.  thanks for the details tho.  that Knox nose was just too pointy. 

[Mbrimson88]

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Magenta boards are made in the same factory (BBS) and those come with correct dimensions (8.25 x 14.5). Exactly what you want, with a different graphic/logo.

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Magenta is generator.
While similar to bbs they are different manufacturers.

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I thought Generator was BBS but manufactured in the USA?

Generator distributes boards made at BBS
DLX is likely bbs’s biggest customer - they make thunders, ventures, and spitfires there - I actually wouldn’t be surprised if Jim T had some ownership in BBS. As far as I know generator is like a middle man for bbs for smaller brands that don’t hit bbs’s minimums directly - so generator boards are more stock shapes.

Yes that is what I had always thought.  Different presses so they do feel a little different in concaves and shapes, but all still under the same roof.  Maybe Generator was once their own company / woodshop, but then could have been bought out and presses went to BBS, like the Black Box presses did, or so I thought, from what someone else had said.  I could be wrong on those points though, but that might make a little more sense, given some people used to talk about Generator woodshop, but no details had come to light from my searches for information.


To clarify, more info from them directly, from their site:



https://www.generatordistribution.com/about-1-1


Our boards are manufactured exclusively with BBS MFG. in Mexico.  Printing, transferring, packaging & distribution is done at our facility in Oceanside California.

[jums]

DLX 8.38 is the best shape for me. Across any brand. Perfect pointy shape, none of that stubby square tail/shovel nose shit, and the wheel base is fucking perfect for my 6 foot 2 self. Also the distance from the tail to bolt is kinda long which gives me good leverage and a nice pocket for my back foot. I kick turn a lot.

I wish I would have jotted down the Roman numeral on this Real I’ve been skating the last few months. I haven’t changed decks because this thing feels ficking amazing under my feet. I’ll peel the grip when it’s finally done.

I used to rock DLX 7.81s tough and the 8.38 is like the same shape just scaled up. The kicks on the 7.81 are similar.

[JM]

DLX 8.38 is the best shape for me. Across any brand. Perfect pointy shape, none of that stubby square tail/shovel nose shit, and the wheel base is fucking perfect for my 6 foot 2 self. Also the distance from the tail to bolt is kinda long which gives me good leverage and a nice pocket for my back foot. I kick turn a lot.

I wish I would have jotted down the Roman numeral on this Real I’ve been skating the last few months. I haven’t changed decks because this thing feels ficking amazing under my feet. I’ll peel the grip when it’s finally done.

I used to rock DLX 7.81s tough and the 8.38 is like the same shape just scaled up. The kicks on the 7.81 are similar.

And the people said: “Amen”

[used mattress]

DLX 8.38 is the best shape for me. Across any brand. Perfect pointy shape, none of that stubby square tail/shovel nose shit, and the wheel base is fucking perfect for my 6 foot 2 self. Also the distance from the tail to bolt is kinda long which gives me good leverage and a nice pocket for my back foot. I kick turn a lot.

I wish I would have jotted down the Roman numeral on this Real I’ve been skating the last few months. I haven’t changed decks because this thing feels ficking amazing under my feet. I’ll peel the grip when it’s finally done.

I used to rock DLX 7.81s tough and the 8.38 is like the same shape just scaled up. The kicks on the 7.81 are similar.

The Dreamer 

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DLX 8.38 is the best shape for me. Across any brand. Perfect pointy shape, none of that stubby square tail/shovel nose shit, and the wheel base is fucking perfect for my 6 foot 2 self. Also the distance from the tail to bolt is kinda long which gives me good leverage and a nice pocket for my back foot. I kick turn a lot.

I wish I would have jotted down the Roman numeral on this Real I’ve been skating the last few months. I haven’t changed decks because this thing feels ficking amazing under my feet. I’ll peel the grip when it’s finally done.

I used to rock DLX 7.81s tough and the 8.38 is like the same shape just scaled up. The kicks on the 7.81 are similar.

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And the people said: “Amen”

 it sure if it’s the dreamer, the one i’m skating. generic 8.38 generator. it’s by all measurements, ‘too big’ for me: too wide, too long….and it works well enough. kickflips and switch flips are easier, particularly switch flips. 360 flips, nollie flips, are a struggle. i don’t do much else. the 14.5 wb is way too big for my short self, but it just feels good now. i don’t skate ‘better’ but im able to go down the hill a little faster.

[Badandoldskater]

Where can I find the dlx easy rider shape ?