DLX Shapes

[Fifty8mm]

Expand Quote

Has anyone else heard a rumor of DLX price increases this summer? I was told it would be on bigger boards first which doesn't make much sense.

[close]

The bigger boards, just like the bigger wheels, use more materials so they were always more expensive here, even if it was only just a few dollars, for any DLX product. 

I think that price gap has increased a little more over time too, so now pro boards up to 8.5 are AU$130 - $139 and boards 8.6 and over are $140 - $149 at the retail end, some of the way bigger ones are even more than that too, but that is a conservative estimate, as some BBS wood is up to almost AU$180 to $200 just for a plain normal deck.

Spitfire wheels are now AU$100 up to 56 mm and then $110 for 57 mm and above in shops, just to give another example.

As things go up, the bigger (and more expensive to make) things would often be the first in that list, maybe more because there could also be way more stock of the smaller boards waiting for graphics, but there never really seems to be overstock of the larger size boards anywhere.

Most boards have the same size sheets and are cutdown. So boards increasing price by size doesnt make sense since it starts off as the same size sheets anyways. Unless they're super wide or long. Or a fucked up shape that needs more sanding or prep.

The only thing i could think of is the shipping.

[Ok]

Expand Quote

.

Sorry to post (again) but with the announcement of Cody on AH, there appears to be another new shape as well.  At least I don't recall seeing that shape anywhere before.

* Just looked it up - the team pigeon shorter boards was the same shape, the yellow one, so not a new one, but I wonder if this might be a shape Cody likes, or they made this shape somewhat for him.

8.32 x 31.62 with 14.18 wb


https://www.antiheroskateboards.com/summer-2025/

[close]

Just saw that 8.32, interesting dims..recently rode a limosine (8.38" x 31.89" 14.20") but as is typical, it was actually smaller all around - probably the  best skating 8.3 I've ridden to date, nice and full/great shape (super pissed I missed their recent sale on the 8.3 slicks tho);  thinking about scooping one of these chapmans...and that Lost Boys graphics slaps (CCS has them up, wrong dims listed tho)

how is it possible that in this year, i want a cody chapman board?? the 8.32 sounds sick. that lost boys graphic is very excellent. wtf is happening

[Mbrimson88]

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Has anyone else heard a rumor of DLX price increases this summer? I was told it would be on bigger boards first which doesn't make much sense.

[close]

The bigger boards, just like the bigger wheels, use more materials so they were always more expensive here, even if it was only just a few dollars, for any DLX product. 

I think that price gap has increased a little more over time too, so now pro boards up to 8.5 are AU$130 - $139 and boards 8.6 and over are $140 - $149 at the retail end, some of the way bigger ones are even more than that too, but that is a conservative estimate, as some BBS wood is up to almost AU$180 to $200 just for a plain normal deck.

Spitfire wheels are now AU$100 up to 56 mm and then $110 for 57 mm and above in shops, just to give another example.

As things go up, the bigger (and more expensive to make) things would often be the first in that list, maybe more because there could also be way more stock of the smaller boards waiting for graphics, but there never really seems to be overstock of the larger size boards anywhere.

[close]

Most boards have the same size sheets and are cutdown. So boards increasing price by size doesnt make sense since it starts off as the same size sheets anyways. Unless they're super wide or long. Or a fucked up shape that needs more sanding or prep.

The only thing i could think of is the shipping.

I thought most veneer sheets are about the same as sheets of grip, 9 x 33 or so.

The bigger boards usually had 10 x 34 veneers, from what I understood, but that could also be dependent on different woodshops or supply, etc.

Can't recall where I saw that now, but in one video or whatever it was I saw, the edge .25" was always a bit jagged so they always had to cut in at least that much all round the uncut veneers, so an uncut 9 x 33 board had to be cut down to at least 8.6 if not more, to avoid issues with the edges.  Then anything bigger than that was more a specialty size.

Too much Woodshop knowledge, but really it doesn't matter that much now.


* I tried looking it up, but couldn't find the video or info.  Happy for anyone who actually works for BBS or another woodshop to correct me or help with any more info.

Once the veneer sheets were a lot bigger, some still are, but they reduced the size of them down to cut costs, hence the bigger sheets cost more.

One bit from a blank ad:

Please note: 34 x 10 is the wood size, once cut your deck COULD potentially be a maximum of 33 x 9.4.


Another one:

Eternals uncut double kicks, cut to your own personal preference!

Features:

Width: 9.0"
Length: 32.5"
Double kick

[danmasontree]

Can anyone give more info on the Yizner shape? The tail looks kinda square.

Same with the 8.63 x 32.044? Tactics says standard popsicle but it looks more squared

[Mbrimson88]

Can anyone give more info on the Yizner shape? The tail looks kinda square.

Same with the 8.63 x 32.044? Tactics says standard popsicle but it looks more squared

Yeah both are more for those specific riders, Yinzer is for Austin Kanfoush and the other one is the Raney shape.

Both do have semi squared off tails, both shorter than average wheelbases, Yinzer has a moderately shaped pointed nose and is shorter overall, Raney board with a blunt nose, not quite shovel but squared off almost more than the tail, a bit more taper down towards the tail too.

Both still skate like a normal board, but they have differences compared to a regular straight railed popsicle, definitely felt a little more stubby on the Yinzer, the Raney maybe a bit more regular in overall length, wb and kicks.

The two listings on Tactics have all relevant pics, dimensions and good details.


https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/kanfoush-dawn-of-the-pigeon-855-yinzer-shape-skateboard-deck/black

https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/beres-refuse-863-skateboard-deck/black


Pics to compare though both scaled to fit side by side, but the Raney is longer:

[Sedition]

^ Wish the Raney came in a 14.38 or 14.5.

[danmasontree]

Expand Quote

Can anyone give more info on the Yizner shape? The tail looks kinda square.

Same with the 8.63 x 32.044? Tactics says standard popsicle but it looks more squared

[close]

Yeah both are more for those specific riders, Yinzer is for Austin Kanfoush and the other one is the Raney shape.

Both do have semi squared off tails, both shorter than average wheelbases, Yinzer has a moderately shaped pointed nose and is shorter overall, Raney board with a blunt nose, not quite shovel but squared off almost more than the tail, a bit more taper down towards the tail too.

Both still skate like a normal board, but they have differences compared to a regular straight railed popsicle, definitely felt a little more stubby on the Yinzer, the Raney maybe a bit more regular in overall length, wb and kicks.

The two listings on Tactics have all relevant pics, dimensions and good details.


https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/kanfoush-dawn-of-the-pigeon-855-yinzer-shape-skateboard-deck/black

https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/beres-refuse-863-skateboard-deck/black


Pics to compare though both scaled to fit side by side, but the Raney is longer:

Thanks!!

[Scab Picker]

Anyone know of larger decks that are similar to the 8.32” x 31.64” x 14.18” shape?

I like the shape and concave, but need more width. Anything in the 8.6-9.0” range would be ideal. My local has to put in order for any of the bigger boards that isn’t an AH logo board, so I can’t check it out at the shop.

[Mbrimson88]

Anyone know of larger decks that are similar to the 8.32” x 31.64” x 14.18” shape?

I like the shape and concave, but need more width. Anything in the 8.6-9.0” range would be ideal. My local has to put in order for any of the bigger boards that isn’t an AH logo board, so I can’t check it out at the shop.

There are more shapes coming out, maybe one in particular you might like, but right now the AH short 8.75 x 31.75 with 14.25 wb might be the closest to those dimensions.

The last one was the "Some Legs" series, from this catalog:

https://www.antiheroskateboards.com/spring-2025/

https://www.antiheroskateboards.com/spring25/ah-2025-spr-d1-catalog-03.jpg


* I forgot to add, that same shape was used for the previous series "Bozos" with a clown graphic, so the 8.75 of that board is still around as well, from what I could see.  As yet, I haven't seen it in person, but I am guessing with those dimensions, it might be pretty much right around middle ground for the sort of shorter but wider board you are after.

https://www.antiheroskateboards.com/fall24/ah-2024-fall-d1-ff-01.jpg

[skateboarder4life]

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

the crail shape guide is superb

interested in the differences between the cream, and white, eagles. seem pretty close

[close]

The white eagle, IMHO, is way more agile/well-balanced than the cream one.

[close]

Yes definitely!

While the cream eagle is the longer wheelbase board, similar to a bigger green 8.38, which a lot of the vert guys loved, as well as the big bowl guys who didn't want something as big as the 9" orange eagle.  Then the white eagle is a little more stubby and does feel really good as an all rounder for the size and shape.

The 8.62 shape is the same through the rail, no taper, long rounded almost pointy kicks, long wheelbase and really stable on bigger transition, but a little too big when skating it normally on everything else.

The 8.75 is 8.75 at the shoulder then has taper down to 8.6 at the tail, is not quite as long as the 8.62 even though it says it on paper and has a little more blunt rounded nose and really good size and shape overall for everything that I have skated it on, both street, ramp, park, etc.


I had the same Indy 159s and 56 to 58mm wheels on both, but prefer thinner wheels like Classics on the 8.62 as they don't stick out as much as the bigger wider wheels like Conical Full / Classic Full wheels that work well on the 8.75 size board.

For anyone who is curious, I would say to go more for the 8.75 for everything, but I do know some dudes love the longer 8.62 board.

They both come in those same shapes, with whatever graphics, through the whole DLX board brands range, so almost every drop of Real, Krooked or Antihero has an 8.75 and quite often an 8.62 as well.


Somewhere in the history of this thread I thought had put up pretty clear detailed pics of kicks of both side by side, which right this minute I couldn't find, but it is noticeable.

[close]

IMHO, the 8.75 and 8.25(14.38) have the "same" shape. Likewise, the 8.62 and 8.38/8.5 have the "same" shape. This is to say the 8.75/8.25 have a slightly more "full" nose shape, whereas the 8.62/8.38/8.5 have a slightly more rounded/pointy nose/tail shape.

[close]

damn this is all exactly what i was looking for.

interesting that the 8.75 isn’t longer than the 8.62.
in the description of the shapes that sedition made, i prefer a pointy nose/tail shape, but what you both said was that the white eagle is the better ‘all arounder’: i’ve been looking at wider/longer boards for some go fast situations (relative fast for me, most likely not fast for you), and although i’m looking for stability at speed, being me, i will eventually end up in a parking lot trying to flip this thing.


@LebowskisRug i find the routing stuff to be really consistent with bbs, compared to my preferred wood shop which is ps stix.
all things being close, bbs is waaaay closer to delivering consistent shapes. or at least had been. i haven’t been skating bbs stuff, purposefully, since the pandemic boards, save for one krooked true fit that i wanted to try, graphic aside, haaaaaaaated it

now the steepness variability….i do not prefer the bbs molds/concave. at all. even a mellow bbs is far from flat, and the steep ones really mess with me (a me problem).

what did you end up going with as far as the white vs cream?

[swongolianbbq]

.

Sorry to post (again) but with the announcement of Cody on AH, there appears to be another new shape as well.  At least I don't recall seeing that shape anywhere before.

* Just looked it up - the team pigeon shorter boards was the same shape, the yellow one, so not a new one, but I wonder if this might be a shape Cody likes, or they made this shape somewhat for him.

8.32 x 31.62 with 14.18 wb

I'm pretty sure Chapman skates 8.5's, I've seen him on regular blue eagles and the sparkly easy rider eagle, I know he skates AF1 55's and 56mm radial fulls a lot of the time and those wheels stick out a lil even with aces shorter hangers on a blue eagle, couldn't imagine it working on an even smaller board but maybe

[Scab Picker]

Expand Quote

.

Sorry to post (again) but with the announcement of Cody on AH, there appears to be another new shape as well.  At least I don't recall seeing that shape anywhere before.

* Just looked it up - the team pigeon shorter boards was the same shape, the yellow one, so not a new one, but I wonder if this might be a shape Cody likes, or they made this shape somewhat for him.

8.32 x 31.62 with 14.18 wb

[close]

I'm pretty sure Chapman skates 8.5's, I've seen him on regular blue eagles and the sparkly easy rider eagle, I know he skates AF1 55's and 56mm radial fulls a lot of the time and those wheels stick out a lil even with aces shorter hangers on a blue eagle, couldn't imagine it working on an even smaller board but maybe

Yeah, I put Ace AF1 55s on the 8.32" shape, thinking that's what he skates, and the 59 mm Radial Fulls stick out noticeably when riding the board. It works but I prefer flush or a little bit of magic carpet. Great shape, but I think the 8.65" Hewitt shape in the fall might be more suitable for me, since I like the shape but want a wider board.

[Too Frank To Fred]

I think the 8.65" Hewitt shape in the fall might be more suitable for me, since I like the shape but want a wider board.

Looking forward to this also. I'll likely ride with Ace 60s or T2 151s.

[BeachChicken]

DLX gives riders decks in many graphics that aren't sold to the public as well. I've talked to DLX riders that have Eagles that are actually twin tails or some similar swap.

[Fifty8mm]

DLX gives riders decks in many graphics that aren't sold to the public as well. I've talked to DLX riders that have Eagles that are actually twin tails or some similar swap.

I love how Yuto just rides whatever the public gets. So you know if you like how his board looks (kicks, shape) you can just buy an 8 april.

[Mbrimson88]

Expand Quote

DLX gives riders decks in many graphics that aren't sold to the public as well. I've talked to DLX riders that have Eagles that are actually twin tails or some similar swap.

[close]

I love how Yuto just rides whatever the public gets. So you know if you like how his board looks (kicks, shape) you can just buy an 8 april.

I guess it comes down to personal preference, more than anything.  It is not like the 2000s when some brands would sell one product and give their riders another, but brands like DLX have always had everything the same throughout, so their riders will ride the same wood that they sell.

The only difference there is a number of the DLX riders have their specific shapes they like, so as @BeachChicken said, the powers that be often like to play mix and match with the graphics put on the specific shapes for the team riders, just so they don't get sick of the same boards, time and time again, but it is still the same wood.

Trying to recall who said in an interview that they get weird if they see their own name on their board - anyone remember which pro that was?  Maybe one of the Girl team or someone else?

Anyway, back to graphics and boards, I think some of them just ride whatever, or pick up a board here or there if they run out or break their own, so then I guess it is whatever they can get their hands on, but then others have their specific shape they like, so they are more likely to get different variations.

Not to bring up Ben deGros too much, but I recall when he went to the BBS woodshop, they put a number of graphics on his special shape at the time, so it could be much the same, only their team riders don't need to go down to the plant, they just get them done and sent to them.

Ishod has twins, Raney has his own, as does Austin Kanfoush, BA sometimes, just off the top of my head.  Mason too.

I recall a conversation a while back, where someone was arguing that they all ride their own very specific shapes, but someone else was saying it wasn't all of them, just a number of them and not a very high number at that.

Any which way, I think most if not all "special shapes" are still sold by DLX or have been at some point, even if they are not making the specific shapes for the team riders, eg the Bino shape that came out only once.


* Sorry that might have been a bit of a ramble.

[franc]

A lot of pros said they couldn't ride their own pro model.

Remember that shaped TG board from the Real Acrylics series? Was there ever a name for that shape? Never seen it after that. Such a great shape, very functional. I DM'd TG about it (like a man) but he never replied.

[Mbrimson88]

A lot of pros said they couldn't ride their own pro model.

Remember that shaped TG board from the Real Acrylics series? Was there ever a name for that shape? Never seen it after that. Such a great shape, very functional. I DM'd TG about it (like a man) but he never replied.

No I don't think I have ever seen that one again, but the Marbie shape is similar (maybe)


From 2021, third frame even shows the size sticker and everything.

Width : 8.5"
Lengh : 31.75"
Wheel base : 14.15"

Also a shop listing here with maybe the best pics I have seen of it:


https://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-3068692698-shape-real-tommy-guerrero-acrylics-850-new-school-_JM

[franc]

Thanks man. Yeah I know that board and its dimensions very well, I'm skating my third one at the moment and have another two on ice. The Marbie shape looks very similar but has a shorter wheelbase (14, which would be fine by me, I prefer shorter wheelbases). I'd totally get one as I'd love to support There and Marbie but distribution for There is non-existent here.

[moonordie]

A lot of pros said they couldn't ride their own pro model.

Remember that shaped TG board from the Real Acrylics series? Was there ever a name for that shape? Never seen it after that. Such a great shape, very functional. I DM'd TG about it (like a man) but he never replied.

A shop here in Prague has it on sale in case you're in the EU for 48€ with grip: https://www.darkslide.cz/cruisery-a-ryby/deska-real-tommy-guerrero-acrylics-8-5/

[Sedition]

The 8.4, in relation to 8.5/14.25…I know 8.4 has slightly longer nose, and is more straight down the sides…but I can’t remember how actual width compares to the 8.5. Someone remind me??? Danke!

[rikki]

The 8.4, in relation to 8.5/14.25…I know 8.4 has slightly longer nose, and is more straight down the sides…but I can’t remember how actual width compares to the 8.5. Someone remind me??? Danke!

As I remember from one Cardiel 8.4 x 14.25 I skated a couple of years back, the dims are pretty accurate. It's basically an 8.4 spot on. Might even feel "wider" than the 8.5 x 14.25 because of the less tapered shape.

[Mbrimson88]

Expand Quote

The 8.4, in relation to 8.5/14.25…I know 8.4 has slightly longer nose, and is more straight down the sides…but I can’t remember how actual width compares to the 8.5. Someone remind me??? Danke!

[close]

As I remember from one Cardiel 8.4 x 14.25 I skated a couple of years back, the dims are pretty accurate. It's basically an 8.4 spot on. Might even feel "wider" than the 8.5 x 14.25 because of the less tapered shape.

Yes, with a little bit longer tail too.

Very straight down the rail, very normal looking kicks, whereas the 8.5 has a (minimally) bigger front end and tapers down to a smaller tail.  They are pretty close though.

It is one of a few within comfortable dimensions for me, so I always have one set up, although I don't skate it very often.  Just funny as it is sitting right beside the 8.5 - both with Indy forged hollow 149s, Spitfire F4 53ish or so wheels, although different shapes / not Classics, although they would work well on them.  I had been trying them both on that truck combination recently, so they are still beside the ramp.

[franc]

Expand Quote

A lot of pros said they couldn't ride their own pro model.

Remember that shaped TG board from the Real Acrylics series? Was there ever a name for that shape? Never seen it after that. Such a great shape, very functional. I DM'd TG about it (like a man) but he never replied.

[close]

A shop here in Prague has it on sale in case you're in the EU for 48€ with grip: https://www.darkslide.cz/cruisery-a-ryby/deska-real-tommy-guerrero-acrylics-8-5/

Thanks man! I'm in Switzerland which is technically in Europe but not part of the EU, which means serious taxes if I order stuff from most places. Might get it sent to a mate's in France as I live about 15 kilometers from the border.

PS: just checked and it seems like those guys only ship to the Czech Republic and Slovakia..?

[JM]

Trying to recall who said in an interview that they get weird if they see their own name on their board - anyone remember which pro that was?  Maybe one of the Girl team or someone else?

If you’re remembering an interview from 98’-00’ I also remember someone saying this.

Don’t remember who either… but it seemed like the trend for many to not skate your own board. Like it was really whack to do that.

Girl/Chocolate sounds right though. Let’s go with that, ha.

[Sedition]

Expand Quote

Trying to recall who said in an interview that they get weird if they see their own name on their board - anyone remember which pro that was?  Maybe one of the Girl team or someone else?

[close]

If you’re remembering an interview from 98’-00’ I also remember someone saying this.

Don’t remember who either… but it seemed like the trend for many to not skate your own board. Like it was really whack to do that.

Girl/Chocolate sounds right though. Let’s go with that, ha.

Kalis sort of talks about this in an adjacent way on his 9-Club episode

[back smith]

Not riding your own graphic wasn't a trend it was the standard for like 20 years.

[back smith]

Regripped this Scallywag shape old board I had been using as an impromptu coffee table. Didn't get along with it originally because of the trucks I had on it but damn the shape looks pretty good, need to give it another try.

[skateboarder4life]

https://youtu.be/oK5E90r6S0U?t=257

Gerwer said he rarely rides his own board, stickers his name if he does.

[BartHarleyJarvis]

Brian Anderson definitely said he used to sharpie his name out. Might've been in his Epicly Later'd???