Truck set-ups

[rob]

Anyone know what trucks would be similar to a old standard tensor 10?

I’ve been on the light madness and dwindled my preferred trucks down to 4 do-able trucks but 3 of 4 preferable

Of those 3 the tensor 10 regs I like a lot

Thunder 147 always a good choice

Krux k5 4.0 tall I actually like

And the truck in 4th place is everyone’s favorite in the mid or standard 139 but they don’t pop like my top 3

The top 3 with the right bushings have this quick, light, easy solid pop I have a instinct to, especially when I pop it up to my hand they feel right

[slapattack]

Posting this here in case anyones looking to fuel the truck madness:
- Thunder lights 149
- Thunder teams 151
- Indy forged 149
- New Royals 149 (comes with chocolate wheels and philips hardware)

All trucks are in good condition with newish bushings and no stripped axles.

https://www.depop.com/products/nicjacobs1-thunderindyroyal-truck-bundle-85-x3/

[Obijuan91]

So indy forged are are basically the same wb as thunder teams. Does that mean that the Indy forged would pair best with a 14’ wb then?

[Mbrimson88]

So indy forged are are basically the same wb as thunder teams. Does that mean that the Indy forged would pair best with a 14’ wb then?

Only if you prefer short wheelbases on everything.

A lot of people ride Indy forged and Thunder team / cast plates on much longer wb boards with no issues, so it is just down to the individual and how they like their boards.

For a lower truck, there might be a few differences which could be felt on boards with more or less middle board length, not wheelbase, but then it really is personal preference.

Shorter wheelbases will turn more quickly and be easier to spin, compared to longer wheelbases which turn slower in general and might feel like more effort is needed to get the board around.


Of course there will be those who will swear by this and not like that, in terms of trucks, but also preferences of bushings can go a long way to making a truck work or not work for some people as well.

A common trade up is the 92 duro bushings on Indy, just to have a little more stability, but even when I tried the 94 conical shape and sanded the top bushing down a bit, they were a little more stable but could still turn a lot more than some other harder bushing options, with less chance of wheelbite compared to stock or softer bushings.


There is not really any definite right or wrong answer to what trucks work best with what size board, wheelbase, or other pairings, but personal preference plays a huge part in anything to do with truck set ups.

[Obijuan91]

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So indy forged are are basically the same wb as thunder teams. Does that mean that the Indy forged would pair best with a 14’ wb then?

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Only if you prefer short wheelbases on everything.

A lot of people ride Indy forged and Thunder team / cast plates on much longer wb boards with no issues, so it is just down to the individual and how they like their boards.

For a lower truck, there might be a few differences which could be felt on boards with more or less middle board length, not wheelbase, but then it really is personal preference.

Shorter wheelbases will turn more quickly and be easier to spin, compared to longer wheelbases which turn slower in general and might feel like more effort is needed to get the board around.


Of course there will be those who will swear by this and not like that, in terms of trucks, but also preferences of bushings can go a long way to making a truck work or not work for some people as well.

A common trade up is the 92 duro bushings on Indy, just to have a little more stability, but even when I tried the 94 conical shape and sanded the top bushing down a bit, they were a little more stable but could still turn a lot more than some other harder bushing options, with less chance of wheelbite compared to stock or softer bushings.


There is not really any definite right or wrong answer to what trucks work best with what size board, wheelbase, or other pairings, but personal preference plays a huge part in anything to do with truck set ups.

Subjective!!!! Lol the way you explain it tho thunders would make more sense on a 14’ cuz it would turn better.

I’m chasing a board pop/flip feel back from 2015 I had some Indy forged polished and they got stolen so now I’m confused on the specs of my old trucks to replicate it

[Mbrimson88]

Subjective!!!! Lol the way you explain it tho thunders would make more sense on a 14’ cuz it would turn better.

I’m chasing a board pop/flip feel back from 2015 I had some Indy forged polished and they got stolen so now I’m confused on the specs of my old trucks to replicate it

As you said, Thunder (or even Venture) are often the truck of choice for people on 14" wb, but you can still ride Indy in any option on 14" wb just as easily too.

At least the current Indy variants have been around for twelve or more years, so yes, they would have been the same back then, unless you had older trucks, eg Stage 9 or Stage 10 in the forged, which would have been closer to the current Indy mid truck in height, at 52 mm tall.

For decks from 2015, there are still a lot of the same shapes and boards currently in rotation, but maybe not as many in the boards under 8" now, as there used to be back then.  What size board are you riding or wanting to set up?


* I saw that Real Chima board you posted, same shape Mason rides on Indy trucks, so I guess that would work nicely, but you also said 139s so going to set up an 8.0 or similar?  DLX has some 14" wb or close to it, good shapes so a few options that seem pretty good.

[Obijuan91]

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Subjective!!!! Lol the way you explain it tho thunders would make more sense on a 14’ cuz it would turn better.

I’m chasing a board pop/flip feel back from 2015 I had some Indy forged polished and they got stolen so now I’m confused on the specs of my old trucks to replicate it

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As you said, Thunder (or even Venture) are often the truck of choice for people on 14" wb, but you can still ride Indy in any option on 14" wb just as easily too.

At least the current Indy variants have been around for twelve or more years, so yes, they would have been the same back then, unless you had older trucks, eg Stage 9 or Stage 10 in the forged, which would have been closer to the current Indy mid truck in height, at 52 mm tall.

For decks from 2015, there are still a lot of the same shapes and boards currently in rotation, but maybe not as many in the boards under 8" now, as there used to be back then.  What size board are you riding or wanting to set up?


* I saw that Real Chima board you posted, same shape Mason rides on Indy trucks, so I guess that would work nicely, but you also said 139s so going to set up an 8.0 or similar?  DLX has some 14" wb or close to it, good shapes so a few options

 that seem pretty good.

I guess I’m just wondering if my old trucks were actually forged even tho they were polished standards cuz if that were true then they’d stand at 53.5 with the extended wheelbase. I tried 14 on regular indys and it felt too squirly. Might try it with the forged baseplates if I ever get a 14 again. I got a couple of 14.25s lined up might switch over a standard base plate and see how they feel

[BeachChicken]

2015 was 9 years ago you're a different person and different skater now. Move forward rather than trying to re create something that your memory has likely biased as "superior" when some other variable was likely the cause of better than normal results.

[Unkle Fleak]

I need a change. I might go washers up front.

I'm hella depressed from post show. Werk helps but there's another about cutting hours. Sigh. I've been really werkin hard. To prove myself. This job has really upped my stats for subversion. People leave here and comeback telling me they looked up anarchism.

These are Trumpers. The one's who do it because their friends do it. It's obvious they get no love from them knowing those kooks.

When you have the power within you all that matters are the people around you find this within them too.

I have a million ins.

[Obijuan91]

2015 was 9 years ago you're a different person and different skater now. Move forward rather than trying to re create something that your memory has likely biased as "superior" when some other variable was likely the cause of better than normal results.

That was deep, thank you

[JPKInJapan]

I tried to go a new direction when I started up a few years ago but the closer I get to the past, in my setups, the better it feels haha.  Anyway the problem I have now is that I want to get back to 9-9.25" decks and ride Venture.  I ride 8.75" now with 6.1 Venture and washers but wish there was a 9" Venture.  I guess my question is this:  What is the closest thing to a 9" Venture?  If anyone has experience with this transition I would appreciate your 2 cents. 

[Xen]

I tried to go a new direction when I started up a few years ago but the closer I get to the past, in my setups, the better it feels haha.  Anyway the problem I have now is that I want to get back to 9-9.25" decks and ride Venture.  I ride 8.75" now with 6.1 Venture and washers but wish there was a 9" Venture.  I guess my question is this:  What is the closest thing to a 9" Venture?  If anyone has experience with this transition I would appreciate your 2 cents. 

Thunder 161s man, closest you're going to get to a venture that size regarding stabilty...that said, Slappy's with hard bushings is weirdly similar to Venture casts....close in height and similar feel..Slappys don't really turn like ace or indy, they feel more like a slightly smoother venture/thunder that looks like an indy/ace.

If Royal made a 9" that's what I'd tell you to go for.

[JPKInJapan]

Thanks for the reply.  I have never ridden Slappy or Thunder.  I tried my friend's Thunders a while ago and was so put off by the turn and twitchiness of them that I never even thought about getting them.  If I can run regular hard barrel bushings in Thunder I may go that route.  Sloppy, I have no idea about but will check the specs.  I like the turn of Independent but it always makes my board feel too quick and out of control if I don't have to leave the ground I like 'em!  Thanks again!

[j....soy.....]

Seems like the rage is to try lurpiv…. 8.9’s?  Definitely higher though….a little bit squirrelly, but still lots of stability…

[Pbn_jake]

2015 was 9 years ago you're a different person and different skater now. Move forward rather than trying to re create something that your memory has likely biased as "superior" when some other variable was likely the cause of better than normal results.

Amen

[back smith]

Thanks for the reply.  I have never ridden Slappy or Thunder.  I tried my friend's Thunders a while ago and was so put off by the turn and twitchiness of them that I never even thought about getting them.  If I can run regular hard barrel bushings in Thunder I may go that route.  Sloppy, I have no idea about but will check the specs.  I like the turn of Independent but it always makes my board feel too quick and out of control if I don't have to leave the ground I like 'em!  Thanks again!

Thunders turn the best. The trucks with the most control. If they felt twitchy they were too loose for you.

[Xen]

Thanks for the reply.  I have never ridden Slappy or Thunder.  I tried my friend's Thunders a while ago and was so put off by the turn and twitchiness of them that I never even thought about getting them.  If I can run regular hard barrel bushings in Thunder I may go that route.  Sloppy, I have no idea about but will check the specs.  I like the turn of Independent but it always makes my board feel too quick and out of control if I don't have to leave the ground I like 'em!  Thanks again!

You can run a barrel in thunders easy BUT, you have to get a tall one since Thunder bottoms are taller than most; ACE would be my suggestion (I use them in Royals for the same reason); get the medium ACE bushings and you should be good; you will lose the nimbleness of them (the twitch) but it might suit your needs, a few around here do it (might want to check the thunder thread https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=118215.0). Or you could get some harder aftermarket thunder bushings 94/95/97/100 depending on your weight, I run the 97s (185lbs).

Yeah ACE and Indy are squirrly, Slappys are not, again, contrary to how they look. They turn really well and are stable. IF you are riding venture forged you might not like the height of them.

[Too Frank To Fred]

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Thanks for the reply.  I have never ridden Slappy or Thunder.  I tried my friend's Thunders a while ago and was so put off by the turn and twitchiness of them that I never even thought about getting them.  If I can run regular hard barrel bushings in Thunder I may go that route.  Sloppy, I have no idea about but will check the specs.  I like the turn of Independent but it always makes my board feel too quick and out of control if I don't have to leave the ground I like 'em!  Thanks again!

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Thunders turn the best. The trucks with the most control. If they felt twitchy they were too loose for you.

The best first half of a turn and then Thunders stop. It's all super subjective. They can def feel twitchy to some.

Ace combine the Thunder first half a turn and then go deeper like Indy.

[BeachChicken]

I love the Thunder turn. Once you get the proper tightness you can really lean into the turn. Although right now I am skating and enjoying Indys, I feel with Thunder I can really carve hard into things and frontside slappies feel super fun.

[JPKInJapan]

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Thanks for the reply.  I have never ridden Slappy or Thunder.  I tried my friend's Thunders a while ago and was so put off by the turn and twitchiness of them that I never even thought about getting them.  If I can run regular hard barrel bushings in Thunder I may go that route.  Sloppy, I have no idea about but will check the specs.  I like the turn of Independent but it always makes my board feel too quick and out of control if I don't have to leave the ground I like 'em!  Thanks again!

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You can run a barrel in thunders easy BUT, you have to get a tall one since Thunder bottoms are taller than most; ACE would be my suggestion (I use them in Royals for the same reason); get the medium ACE bushings and you should be good; you will lose the nimbleness of them (the twitch) but it might suit your needs, a few around here do it (might want to check the thunder thread https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=118215.0). Or you could get some harder aftermarket thunder bushings 94/95/97/100 depending on your weight, I run the 97s (185lbs).

Yeah ACE and Indy are squirrly, Slappys are not, again, contrary to how they look. They turn really well and are stable. IF you are riding venture forged you might not like the height of them.

I think I will go with a hard Thunder or barrel bushing in the Thunders.  I always run a medium tight setup.  I'm 6'1" and 185lbs.  I checked sloppy and it looks like it shrinks the wheelbase.  I like the pop of Venture and Thunder looks like it will come the closest to achieving that in a 9" truck. 

[BeachChicken]

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I tried to go a new direction when I started up a few years ago but the closer I get to the past, in my setups, the better it feels haha.  Anyway the problem I have now is that I want to get back to 9-9.25" decks and ride Venture.  I ride 8.75" now with 6.1 Venture and washers but wish there was a 9" Venture.  I guess my question is this:  What is the closest thing to a 9" Venture?  If anyone has experience with this transition I would appreciate your 2 cents. 

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Thunder 161s man, closest you're going to get to a venture that size regarding stabilty...that said, Slappy's with hard bushings is weirdly similar to Venture casts....close in height and similar feel..Slappys don't really turn like ace or indy, they feel more like a slightly smoother venture/thunder that looks like an indy/ace.

If Royal made a 9" that's what I'd tell you to go for.

I like the stability of Ventures but lately prefer the pop of cast Indy Hollow. Are Slappy closer to the Indy cast hollow or to a Venture?