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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4470 on: November 25, 2018, 03:43:05 PM »
Alrighty... So ive ordered a pair of Thunder 149s.
Plan was to just order some bones bushings straight away, cause I hate the stock ones as I weight 200lbs.
I read some shit on reddit that barrel/cylinder shaped bottom bushings are better than coned, cause its more progressive when leaning, compared to coned. Seems good for wheelbite prevention. Anyone tried this? Specificly, using indy barrel/cylinder bushings on thunders

Never had any luck with Bones in Thunders. Always felt they bound up your turn, like stock Ventures. Kind of a gross feeling turn (but I'm a twig so that could also be it). Always stuck with stock Thunder bushings, 90a. That said, had a pair of Aces sitting around unused, I stuck the bottom Ace barrel bushings on the Thunders, and kept the stock Thunder tops. Incredible turn. No wheel bite. Slightly slower and less twitchy than a stock Thunder turn, but just as deep. I think Rob said the Ace lows (same barrel bottom but with a skinner Thunder sized top) work as direct replacements if you don't want to mix and match.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4471 on: November 25, 2018, 03:44:28 PM »
Alrighty... So ive ordered a pair of Thunder 149s.
Plan was to just order some bones bushings straight away, cause I hate the stock ones as I weight 200lbs.
I read some shit on reddit that barrel/cylinder shaped bottom bushings are better than coned, cause its more progressive when leaning, compared to coned. Seems good for wheelbite prevention. Anyone tried this? Specificly, using indy barrel/cylinder bushings on thunders

get the thunder black bushing rebuild kit or the neon yellow bushings.  both are 100a and hard as rocks

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4472 on: November 25, 2018, 05:21:34 PM »

 Skating the neon now with bones washers they are amazing.


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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4473 on: November 26, 2018, 11:27:59 AM »
I just picked up a set of Riptide bushings to try out on the cruiser and I have to say... this is, by far, the biggest upgrade I've ever done for my setup aside from a set of Oust Moc9s...

Seriously amazing how flowy and smooth these things are. They bounce right back to center every time.

I went with the KranK formula. Street barrel on the boardside in 93a and short street cone in 87a roadside. Those shapes are the perfect fit in a set of Indy hollows.

I'm 120 lbs, so pretty much everyone that weighs more should probably go up a bit on the duro. I haven't been able to get wheelbite yet, but I could definitely see it happening at higher speeds in a super tight turn. I'm going to try a set of 90a for roadside. Those will for sure make it perfect.

I had Bones Hardcore before and thought those were a huge upgrade from stock... These Riptides are so much smoother and bouncy than the Bones if you can imagine that. I kept the bones on my normal board just cause I don't see the point in upgrading that stuff any further since it gets beat to shit, but I was looking to get my cruiser as much like a longboard as possible. Finally happy with it, going to leave it alone and see how everything holds up.

Setup is as follows:
Indy hollows 159
Indy 1/8" shock pads
Riptide 96a pivot cups
Riptide KranK 93a street barrel boardside
Riptide KranK 87a short street cone roadside
OJ Hot Juice 55mm minis
Oust Moc9 bearings with speed rings, spacers and nuts tight

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4474 on: November 26, 2018, 11:50:23 AM »
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4475 on: November 26, 2018, 01:26:33 PM »
Thinking of switching from Indy to Ace.  This may have been answered before in the previous 150 pages, but...
I ride 8.5 boards (occasionally 8.38) and indy 149s fit pretty perfectly.  I feel like the Ace 44 might be a tad too small and the 55 a tad too big.  I've been mostly just skating curbs lately, so I'm leaning towards the 55s, as I don't like it when trucks are too small beneath the board.  Anyone try this setup?  Feedback?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4476 on: November 26, 2018, 01:41:57 PM »
Thinking of switching from Indy to Ace.  This may have been answered before in the previous 150 pages, but...
I ride 8.5 boards (occasionally 8.38) and indy 149s fit pretty perfectly.  I feel like the Ace 44 might be a tad too small and the 55 a tad too big.  I've been mostly just skating curbs lately, so I'm leaning towards the 55s, as I don't like it when trucks are too small beneath the board.  Anyone try this setup?  Feedback?

Been thinking about making the Indy to ace jump but worry about being able to lock in and pinch crooked grinds as well as on indys

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4477 on: November 26, 2018, 02:28:39 PM »
Thinking of switching from Indy to Ace.  This may have been answered before in the previous 150 pages, but...
I ride 8.5 boards (occasionally 8.38) and indy 149s fit pretty perfectly.  I feel like the Ace 44 might be a tad too small and the 55 a tad too big.  I've been mostly just skating curbs lately, so I'm leaning towards the 55s, as I don't like it when trucks are too small beneath the board.  Anyone try this setup?  Feedback?

Don't get 55's unless you step up your deck size. The jump is too big IMO. 55's are 9 inches. That's bigger than Indy 159's and almost as big as 169's. It irritates me that Ace don't make something between 44's and 55's.

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« Reply #4478 on: November 26, 2018, 02:55:28 PM »
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Thinking of switching from Indy to Ace.  This may have been answered before in the previous 150 pages, but...
I ride 8.5 boards (occasionally 8.38) and indy 149s fit pretty perfectly.  I feel like the Ace 44 might be a tad too small and the 55 a tad too big.  I've been mostly just skating curbs lately, so I'm leaning towards the 55s, as I don't like it when trucks are too small beneath the board.  Anyone try this setup?  Feedback?
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Don't get 55's unless you step up your deck size. The jump is too big IMO. 55's are 9 inches. That's bigger than Indy 159's and almost as big as 169's. It irritates me that Ace don't make something between 44's and 55's.
Nobody goes against Decreed brattons advice on ace trucks and gets away with it. The last person to do this disappeared. His name? Decreed bratton.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4479 on: November 26, 2018, 05:41:41 PM »
Can some nerd tell me what the fuck durometer I should pick for these $15 pivot cups I'm going to buy? I skate pretty much just street/park with very minimal transition shit, lots of ledge and manual combo BS. I'm guessing the harder the duro the snappier the response, and the softer the smoother but less speedy?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4480 on: November 26, 2018, 06:37:55 PM »


I'm 120 lbs, so pretty much everyone that weighs more should probably go up a bit on the duro.

Nope. close to 200lbs here and thouroughly enjoy 88a bushings. I'd kook you if I'd committed to one username....

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4481 on: November 26, 2018, 06:40:09 PM »
Thinking of switching from Indy to Ace.  This may have been answered before in the previous 150 pages, but...
I ride 8.5 boards (occasionally 8.38) and indy 149s fit pretty perfectly.  I feel like the Ace 44 might be a tad too small and the 55 a tad too big.  I've been mostly just skating curbs lately, so I'm leaning towards the 55s, as I don't like it when trucks are too small beneath the board.  Anyone try this setup?  Feedback?

Hangers on Indy 149 are 149mm
Hangers on Ace 44 are 146mm

In other words 3mm difference or 1.5mm each side. You will be just fine.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4482 on: November 26, 2018, 07:23:24 PM »
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Thinking of switching from Indy to Ace.  This may have been answered before in the previous 150 pages, but...
I ride 8.5 boards (occasionally 8.38) and indy 149s fit pretty perfectly.  I feel like the Ace 44 might be a tad too small and the 55 a tad too big.  I've been mostly just skating curbs lately, so I'm leaning towards the 55s, as I don't like it when trucks are too small beneath the board.  Anyone try this setup?  Feedback?
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Hangers on Indy 149 are 149mm
Hangers on Ace 44 are 146mm

In other words 3mm difference or 1.5mm each side. You will be just fine.

Can confirm. Had 44's on an 8.5 for a while. Unnoticeable differential, especially if you run conicals.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4483 on: November 26, 2018, 07:33:15 PM »
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Thinking of switching from Indy to Ace.  This may have been answered before in the previous 150 pages, but...
I ride 8.5 boards (occasionally 8.38) and indy 149s fit pretty perfectly.  I feel like the Ace 44 might be a tad too small and the 55 a tad too big.  I've been mostly just skating curbs lately, so I'm leaning towards the 55s, as I don't like it when trucks are too small beneath the board.  Anyone try this setup?  Feedback?
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Hangers on Indy 149 are 149mm
Hangers on Ace 44 are 146mm

In other words 3mm difference or 1.5mm each side. You will be just fine.
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Can confirm. Had 44's on an 8.5 for a while. Unnoticeable differential, especially if you run conicals.

+1, also you can run 2 washers on the inside of the axle to pad it out a bit.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4484 on: November 27, 2018, 05:39:25 PM »
Can some nerd tell me what the fuck durometer I should pick for these $15 pivot cups I'm going to buy? I skate pretty much just street/park with very minimal transition shit, lots of ledge and manual combo BS. I'm guessing the harder the duro the snappier the response, and the softer the smoother but less speedy?

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I'm 120 lbs, so pretty much everyone that weighs more should probably go up a bit on the duro.
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Nope. close to 200lbs here and thouroughly enjoy 88a bushings. I'd kook you if I'd committed to one username....

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4485 on: November 27, 2018, 08:27:03 PM »
Quite the opposite.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4486 on: November 28, 2018, 01:46:29 PM »
So I have a pair of 139 standard for sale, just looking to try something new. Was eyeing some tiax 5.5, but then someone offered to trade the indys for ventures 5.2 hi lights.

Anyone have tried these two? How are they compared to indys?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4487 on: November 28, 2018, 08:04:46 PM »
I just picked up a set of Riptide bushings to try out on the cruiser and I have to say... this is, by far, the biggest upgrade I've ever done for my setup aside from a set of Oust Moc9s...

Seriously amazing how flowy and smooth these things are. They bounce right back to center every time.

I went with the KranK formula. Street barrel on the boardside in 93a and short street cone in 87a roadside. Those shapes are the perfect fit in a set of Indy hollows.

I'm 120 lbs, so pretty much everyone that weighs more should probably go up a bit on the duro. I haven't been able to get wheelbite yet, but I could definitely see it happening at higher speeds in a super tight turn. I'm going to try a set of 90a for roadside. Those will for sure make it perfect.

I had Bones Hardcore before and thought those were a huge upgrade from stock... These Riptides are so much smoother and bouncy than the Bones if you can imagine that. I kept the bones on my normal board just cause I don't see the point in upgrading that stuff any further since it gets beat to shit, but I was looking to get my cruiser as much like a longboard as possible. Finally happy with it, going to leave it alone and see how everything holds up.

Setup is as follows:
Indy hollows 159
Indy 1/8" shock pads
Riptide 96a pivot cups
Riptide KranK 93a street barrel boardside
Riptide KranK 87a short street cone roadside
OJ Hot Juice 55mm minis
Oust Moc9 bearings with speed rings, spacers and nuts tight


I have some of the oust street bearings and man were they great right out of the box.  However a month later and I have a few bearings that are blown out so I'm not sure about the skater rating they use.  So far nothing really touches bones swiss

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4488 on: November 29, 2018, 09:48:27 AM »
Alrighty... So ive ordered a pair of Thunder 149s.
Plan was to just order some bones bushings straight away, cause I hate the stock ones as I weight 200lbs.
I read some shit on reddit that barrel/cylinder shaped bottom bushings are better than coned, cause its more progressive when leaning, compared to coned. Seems good for wheelbite prevention. Anyone tried this? Specificly, using indy barrel/cylinder bushings on thunders

Hello! I ran successfully barrelbushings in my 148`s, because the 90a bushings were too soft for me.
For me it feels like i can control the trucks better with them. A more logical behaviour.
Of course harder bushings would help too.
And yes, bones and thunders dont work so good together.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4489 on: November 30, 2018, 04:56:25 AM »


Went back to my old indys after skating 3 sets of thunders in a year.
Feels great, but the height difference is a bit weird.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4490 on: December 01, 2018, 09:47:36 PM »


Went back to my old indys after skating 3 sets of thunders in a year.
Feels great, but the height difference is a bit weird.

holy crap man they're worn down!

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« Reply #4491 on: December 02, 2018, 09:26:33 AM »
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Went back to my old indys after skating 3 sets of thunders in a year.
Feels great, but the height difference is a bit weird.
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holy crap man they're worn down!

Those are the crook/front crook marks I aspire to have on my front truck.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4492 on: December 02, 2018, 10:23:30 AM »
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Went back to my old indys after skating 3 sets of thunders in a year.
Feels great, but the height difference is a bit weird.
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holy crap man they're worn down!
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Those are the crook/front crook marks I aspire to have on my front truck.

Perfect for crooks! fucked up for nosegrinds...

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4493 on: December 02, 2018, 10:46:23 AM »
8.25 deck, 149 Indy's, with orange medium bushings.
Gonna go down to the Bronx and hang out with the gonx

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4494 on: December 02, 2018, 12:09:25 PM »
Hey so should I get some 139s for this 7.875 I have next, or just use my 129s? I'd like to go up a tiny bit more eventually anyways, so will the 139s stick out much at all or is it negligible?

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« Reply #4495 on: December 02, 2018, 01:16:25 PM »
Hey so should I get some 139s for this 7.875 I have next, or just use my 129s? I'd like to go up a tiny bit more eventually anyways, so will the 139s stick out much at all or is it negligible?

139s on 7.875 are kinda flush. If you plan to go up to 8 or 8.125" the 139s will still be fine. Some folks like to ride 144s on a 8.125 which is also fine.

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« Reply #4496 on: December 02, 2018, 01:21:08 PM »
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Hey so should I get some 139s for this 7.875 I have next, or just use my 129s? I'd like to go up a tiny bit more eventually anyways, so will the 139s stick out much at all or is it negligible?
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139s on 7.875 are kinda flush. If you plan to go up to 8 or 8.125" the 139s will still be fine. Some folks like to ride 144s on a 8.125 which is also fine.

Cool, thanks man. Ill have to pick up some 139s then.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4497 on: December 02, 2018, 01:32:01 PM »
i currently skate a 7.875 deck with ace 33s. it's perfect. 1/16th of an inch (0.0625") sticking out on either side is nothing

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« Reply #4498 on: December 02, 2018, 02:06:18 PM »
i currently skate a 7.875 deck with ace 33s. it's perfect. 1/16th of an inch (0.0625") sticking out on either side is nothing

Awesome. Such an odd board size looking forward to trying it out.

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« Reply #4499 on: December 04, 2018, 07:39:27 PM »
In the spirit of recent thunder talk, I’m curious if people have found any good aftermarkets bushings that aren’t too hard or soft. Indy conical, Ace lows, Bones mediums, etc.