I have Ace, Indy, Venture, and Thunder at home. Can never figure out which I like best. Thunders have the most stable manual, I like Ace minus locking into certain grinds, Indys are all around hard to complain about and the Venture feel like a more fun/floppy Thunder. I think someone could adapt to all of them depending on what board they like. So far my best combo has been a Polar 8.5 or Quasi Proto 8.25 with Ace or a DLX 8.25 Full SE (hard as fuck to find) with Indys. I like Thunders with my FA I have currently, but don't really like that deck quite as much.