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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #6840 on: November 19, 2019, 10:53:12 AM »
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any one have any feed back about film trucks ? they look good quality to me.
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where can you find these in the U.S.?
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they look like royals but better built if that makes sense.
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that is my exact first impression

Would like to see more about those, like height and the effect on wheelbase and all that jazz

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #6841 on: November 19, 2019, 11:29:08 AM »
All I could really find: The Film Trucks feature double drilled baseplates so they work with old school decks, parking block shape baseplate, dual kingpin seat (you can use a spline or old school hex head kingpin in them) and a jaw system bushing that forces the trucks hanger to always stay centred.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #6842 on: November 19, 2019, 01:18:23 PM »
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any one have any feed back about film trucks ? they look good quality to me.
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they look like royals but better built if that makes sense.

Looks almost exactly like a Stage VIII to me.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #6843 on: November 19, 2019, 02:22:23 PM »
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any one have any feed back about film trucks ? they look good quality to me.
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where can you find these in the U.S.?
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they look like royals but better built if that makes sense.
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Looks almost exactly like a Stage VIII to me.

Definite Stage VIII vibes. Did they redesign the hanger? I remember looking into them a year or so ago and them having a much more 'Thunder' looking hanger.

And for those curious, there's an interview with Daclin where he says the wheelbase on Film is "Closer to Indy than Thunder," (near the end of the interview).

http://www.mtlmediagroup.com/loveskatemag/www/?p=1419

There was another of his interviews where he stated his love for older (relatively speaking) Indy's, so that's probably indicative of what to expect with them.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #6844 on: November 19, 2019, 04:35:15 PM »
I’m almost positive Film trucks are made in the same factory as tensors. If you google tensor “alloy” that truck is identical to Film trucks before he did the slight redesign to the hanger earlier this year. Native skate store just got a re-up and they ship to the states. They have good pictures for all their gear, and you can see the same slight imprint circles on the bottom of a Film baseplate in the same exact spots of Tensors so that kinda makes me think even more that it’s probably the same factory. The new versions of Films look really clean with flawless casting. The widest size I’ve seen offered is the 6.0 (8.5”).

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« Reply #6845 on: November 19, 2019, 06:10:19 PM »
I’m almost positive Film trucks are made in the same factory as tensors. If you google tensor “alloy” that truck is identical to Film trucks before he did the slight redesign to the hanger earlier this year. Native skate store just got a re-up and they ship to the states. They have good pictures for all their gear, and you can see the same slight imprint circles on the bottom of a Film baseplate in the same exact spots of Tensors so that kinda makes me think even more that it’s probably the same factory. The new versions of Films look really clean with flawless casting. The widest size I’ve seen offered is the 6.0 (8.5”).

Where do you see the overall width? In the description it says they're for 8.5" and above so I would guess they're closer to an 8.75", especially with them being listed as 156s. Either way, now I'm tempted to try them even though I do not need new trucks in any way, shape, or form.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #6846 on: November 19, 2019, 07:22:35 PM »
Cracked Ice pivot cups do indeed fit perfectly in thunders.  The new pinhole might have helped.

either way, I stand corrected


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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #6847 on: November 20, 2019, 07:59:07 AM »
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I’m almost positive Film trucks are made in the same factory as tensors. If you google tensor “alloy” that truck is identical to Film trucks before he did the slight redesign to the hanger earlier this year. Native skate store just got a re-up and they ship to the states. They have good pictures for all their gear, and you can see the same slight imprint circles on the bottom of a Film baseplate in the same exact spots of Tensors so that kinda makes me think even more that it’s probably the same factory. The new versions of Films look really clean with flawless casting. The widest size I’ve seen offered is the 6.0 (8.5”).
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Where do you see the overall width? In the description it says they're for 8.5" and above so I would guess they're closer to an 8.75", especially with them being listed as 156s. Either way, now I'm tempted to try them even though I do not need new trucks in any way, shape, or form.

5.25=8” 5.5=8.25” 5.75=8.5” 6.0=8.75”

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #6848 on: November 20, 2019, 08:23:45 AM »
Cracked Ice pivot cups do indeed fit perfectly in thunders.  The new pinhole might have helped.

either way, I stand corrected



Yeah I though there's no way something designed for an Indy could fit in a thunder.....

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #6849 on: November 20, 2019, 09:33:21 AM »
riptide cracked ice + tax + shipping = $18
these better be worth it, man. these better be worth it...

i'm gonna use these with aces. could it be their geometry that breaks pivot cups?
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #6850 on: November 20, 2019, 09:39:08 AM »
riptide cracked ice + tax + shipping = $18
these better be worth it, man. these better be worth it...

i'm gonna use these with aces. could it be their geometry that breaks pivot cups?

yall out here paying the price of a whole truck for pivot cups :'(

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #6851 on: November 20, 2019, 09:52:34 AM »
yall out here paying the price of a whole truck for pivot cups :'(
They're definitely worth it. I can't go back now - its like premium bath tissue.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #6852 on: November 20, 2019, 10:37:53 AM »
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yall out here paying the price of a whole truck for pivot cups :'(
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They're definitely worth it. I can't go back now - its like premium bath tissue.

Perfect analogy.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #6853 on: November 20, 2019, 06:03:09 PM »
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yall out here paying the price of a whole truck for pivot cups :'(
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They're definitely worth it. I can't go back now - its like premium bath tissue.
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Perfect analogy.

What an ass-ninie comment
Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #6854 on: November 20, 2019, 06:37:03 PM »
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yall out here paying the price of a whole truck for pivot cups :'(
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They're definitely worth it. I can't go back now - its like premium bath tissue.
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Perfect analogy.
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What an ass-ninie comment

Might want to rectal-fy that statement

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #6855 on: November 20, 2019, 10:25:08 PM »
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yall out here paying the price of a whole truck for pivot cups :'(
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They're definitely worth it. I can't go back now - its like premium bath tissue.
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Perfect analogy.
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What an ass-ninie comment
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Might want to rectal-fy that statement

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #6856 on: November 20, 2019, 11:50:07 PM »
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yall out here paying the price of a whole truck for pivot cups :'(
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They're definitely worth it. I can't go back now - its like premium bath tissue.
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Perfect analogy.
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What an ass-ninie comment
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Might want to rectal-fy that statement
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Anus





buttholed up, what's going on here?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #6857 on: November 21, 2019, 05:52:55 AM »


Fellow truck nerd, need help identifying if this is a pair of 5.0 or 5.25 trucks. I know it has a hollow axle and kingpin, white bushings and should be a low.

Appreciate your CSI work.
Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #6858 on: November 21, 2019, 06:05:11 AM »
V-hollow 5.2. I have a pair of 5.0 kicking around and you wouldn't believe how tiny they look.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #6859 on: November 21, 2019, 06:17:43 AM »
V-hollow 5.2. I have a pair of 5.0 kicking around and you wouldn't believe how tiny they look.

Do you know if they are the 5.2 or 5.25, I think the 5.25 was an older generation naming convention.

The only info I have is the bushing height and that they are low trucks. The guy I'm planning on buying them from doesn't have a ruler or tape measure in the house, what even.
Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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« Reply #6860 on: November 21, 2019, 07:06:20 AM »
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V-hollow 5.2. I have a pair of 5.0 kicking around and you wouldn't believe how tiny they look.
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Do you know if they are the 5.2 or 5.25, I think the 5.25 was an older generation naming convention.

The only info I have is the bushing height and that they are low trucks. The guy I'm planning on buying them from doesn't have a ruler or tape measure in the house, what even.

DLX-made 5.2s, sorry. If the screened V goes with the V of the hanger, they're DLX. If the V goes against the hanger, they're Streetcorner. Also those appear to have forged plates and I don't recall the Streetcorner Ventures doing forged (I could be wrong on that part).


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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #6861 on: November 21, 2019, 07:25:03 AM »
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V-hollow 5.2. I have a pair of 5.0 kicking around and you wouldn't believe how tiny they look.
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Do you know if they are the 5.2 or 5.25, I think the 5.25 was an older generation naming convention.

The only info I have is the bushing height and that they are low trucks. The guy I'm planning on buying them from doesn't have a ruler or tape measure in the house, what even.
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DLX-made 5.2s, sorry. If the screened V goes with the V of the hanger, they're DLX. If the V goes against the hanger, they're Streetcorner. Also those appear to have forged plates and I don't recall the Streetcorner Ventures doing forged (I could be wrong on that part).

Doing dogs work thank you
Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #6862 on: November 21, 2019, 08:09:57 AM »
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V-hollow 5.2. I have a pair of 5.0 kicking around and you wouldn't believe how tiny they look.
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Do you know if they are the 5.2 or 5.25, I think the 5.25 was an older generation naming convention.

The only info I have is the bushing height and that they are low trucks. The guy I'm planning on buying them from doesn't have a ruler or tape measure in the house, what even.
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DLX-made 5.2s, sorry. If the screened V goes with the V of the hanger, they're DLX. If the V goes against the hanger, they're Streetcorner. Also those appear to have forged plates and I don't recall the Streetcorner Ventures doing forged (I could be wrong on that part).

When was the switch from streetcorner to DLX? Was it a notable improvement?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #6863 on: November 21, 2019, 09:33:12 AM »
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V-hollow 5.2. I have a pair of 5.0 kicking around and you wouldn't believe how tiny they look.
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Do you know if they are the 5.2 or 5.25, I think the 5.25 was an older generation naming convention.

The only info I have is the bushing height and that they are low trucks. The guy I'm planning on buying them from doesn't have a ruler or tape measure in the house, what even.

It's basically impossible to tell the size with any degree of certainty from that picture. Also those bushings don't look like the stock ones, ventures have a barrel bottom and a bottom washer stock. 99% sure those are bones mediums (especially given the lack of a bottom washer). So given that information, we can assume he's able to take the hanger off and he can simply do so and flip it over to get the answer. Voila!



When was the switch from streetcorner to DLX? Was it a notable improvement?

2011'ish and I'd say the common consensus is that the trucks improved under Deluxe. Better QC and now they get Deluxe customer service/support which is second to none. I never skated Ventures back in the day so I can't really comment on the streetcorner era, but I've got 3 pairs of modern ones (5.2l, 5.6 v-hollow, 5.8 shadow) and they're all top notch trucks. I can't think of a single Deluxe product that's subpar or even merely average now that I think about it.. pretty much everything they do is above average or best in class.
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« Reply #6864 on: November 21, 2019, 10:41:24 AM »
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V-hollow 5.2. I have a pair of 5.0 kicking around and you wouldn't believe how tiny they look.
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Do you know if they are the 5.2 or 5.25, I think the 5.25 was an older generation naming convention.

The only info I have is the bushing height and that they are low trucks. The guy I'm planning on buying them from doesn't have a ruler or tape measure in the house, what even.
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DLX-made 5.2s, sorry. If the screened V goes with the V of the hanger, they're DLX. If the V goes against the hanger, they're Streetcorner. Also those appear to have forged plates and I don't recall the Streetcorner Ventures doing forged (I could be wrong on that part).
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Doing dogs work thank you

Glad I could help.

When was the switch from streetcorner to DLX? Was it a notable improvement?

BFRD isn't far off, but I think it was 2012. I could be wrong.

I never had any problems with Ventures when they were under Streetcorner but I remember lots of people talking about baseplates cracking and general QC issues. I believe they changed the geo a bit (hence the longer WB) and improved the turn a bit, though that might be partially due to them having good DLX bushings.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #6865 on: November 21, 2019, 11:04:41 AM »
Anyone know where might have some 215s in stock?  I heard somewhere a while back Indy/NHS sent the the last of the run out earlier in the year so what's floating around in shop inventories is what's left to pick up until the spring run.  Was really wanting to ask my lady for a 9.5" board setup for the Lord's b-day just for fun and I my 55s bent from 5-0s on a foot-tall ledge, so I'm sour on Ace for a minute and back on Indies again. 

EDIT: lol, my local has them, which isn't really a local, but a chain from SoCal with a location in a slowly dying mall.  I may run and get them there, but mostly out of convenience. 
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #6866 on: November 21, 2019, 11:25:10 AM »
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V-hollow 5.2. I have a pair of 5.0 kicking around and you wouldn't believe how tiny they look.
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Do you know if they are the 5.2 or 5.25, I think the 5.25 was an older generation naming convention.

The only info I have is the bushing height and that they are low trucks. The guy I'm planning on buying them from doesn't have a ruler or tape measure in the house, what even.
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It's basically impossible to tell the size with any degree of certainty from that picture. Also those bushings don't look like the stock ones, ventures have a barrel bottom and a bottom washer stock. 99% sure those are bones mediums (especially given the lack of a bottom washer). So given that information, we can assume he's able to take the hanger off and he can simply do so and flip it over to get the answer. Voila!



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When was the switch from streetcorner to DLX? Was it a notable improvement?
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2011'ish and I'd say the common consensus is that the trucks improved under Deluxe. Better QC and now they get Deluxe customer service/support which is second to none. I never skated Ventures back in the day so I can't really comment on the streetcorner era, but I've got 3 pairs of modern ones (5.2l, 5.6 v-hollow, 5.8 shadow) and they're all top notch trucks. I can't think of a single Deluxe product that's subpar or even merely average now that I think about it.. pretty much everything they do is above average or best in class.

Deluxe is great! I agree

Never a bad product or even average at that

Always above and beyond in all departments

Especially customer service and warranty

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« Reply #6867 on: November 21, 2019, 11:33:22 AM »
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V-hollow 5.2. I have a pair of 5.0 kicking around and you wouldn't believe how tiny they look.
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Do you know if they are the 5.2 or 5.25, I think the 5.25 was an older generation naming convention.

The only info I have is the bushing height and that they are low trucks. The guy I'm planning on buying them from doesn't have a ruler or tape measure in the house, what even.
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It's basically impossible to tell the size with any degree of certainty from that picture. Also those bushings don't look like the stock ones, ventures have a barrel bottom and a bottom washer stock. 99% sure those are bones mediums (especially given the lack of a bottom washer). So given that information, we can assume he's able to take the hanger off and he can simply do so and flip it over to get the answer. Voila!



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When was the switch from streetcorner to DLX? Was it a notable improvement?
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2011'ish and I'd say the common consensus is that the trucks improved under Deluxe. Better QC and now they get Deluxe customer service/support which is second to none. I never skated Ventures back in the day so I can't really comment on the streetcorner era, but I've got 3 pairs of modern ones (5.2l, 5.6 v-hollow, 5.8 shadow) and they're all top notch trucks. I can't think of a single Deluxe product that's subpar or even merely average now that I think about it.. pretty much everything they do is above average or best in class.
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Deluxe is great! I agree

Never a bad product or even average at that

Always above and beyond in all departments

Especially customer service and warranty

Their customer service is awesome. I've had an issue with a krooked deck and they immediately resolved it by replacing it. Unfortunately, I've had another distributor treat me really lousy over the same issue(looking at you theories of atlantis). When it comes to buying a deck, the majority of ones that I plan on buying will be from DLX, save the random one here or there.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #6868 on: November 21, 2019, 02:06:21 PM »

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #6869 on: November 21, 2019, 02:24:08 PM »
Anyone seen these in the wild/do they even exist (DLX guys?), WS is the only place I've ever seen them (stickers look legit):

Venture v-hollow high 5.6

Venture v-hollow low 5.6

I've only ever seen the V-lights (hollow pin, solid axle) out there in 5.6 in the wild and on other sites. I'd be really into checking out the V-Hollow lows for giggles on a 90s setup.
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