Author Topic: Truck set-ups (Read 1232101 times)

FrenchFriedClownFingers · « **Reply #8760 on:** July 03, 2020, 05:29:46 PM »

for fun last night i loosened the shit out of my trucks after throwing in some red thunder bushings with the top washer gone. like click clack loose. i like it because it shows you where to put your feet properly and it feels like you become one with the board

TheBoognish · « **Reply #8761 on:** July 03, 2020, 07:12:29 PM »

After 3 years of riding Ventures, I think my Thunder 148's have been promoted to my main set-up.

They feel damn good.

FrenchFriedClownFingers · « **Reply #8762 on:** July 03, 2020, 10:16:50 PM »

the thunder bushings i ordered really suck. very stiff for 90a

i need some good bushings. i ride thunder 148 with the bolt barely fitting on

mynameisnotjeff · « **Reply #8763 on:** July 03, 2020, 10:47:11 PM »

Quote from: FrenchFriedClownFingers on July 03, 2020, 10:16:50 PM

the thunder bushings i ordered really suck. very stiff for 90a

i need some good bushings. i ride thunder 148 with the bolt barely fitting on

Would low bushings fit in Thunder? Something like a conical low?

sammyz · « **Reply #8764 on:** July 04, 2020, 03:32:55 AM »

So, i had thought...firstly I dont ride switch, so take that into consideration when reading through this thought

Has anyone tried putting heavier truck on the nose side and lighter on the tail side? The concept being it take more effort to lift the front, but you get more force and when they go up the tail will follow easily because its lighter...theoretically higher pop?

I remember back in the late 80’s we use to experiment with having higher risers on tail than on the nose to increase pop...which never felt right...but did help...so i guess this similar idea

YungJugg · « **Reply #8765 on:** July 04, 2020, 10:51:55 AM »

Quote from: sammyz on July 04, 2020, 03:32:55 AM

So, i had thought...firstly I dont ride switch, so take that into consideration when reading through this thought

Has anyone tried putting heavier truck on the nose side and lighter on the tail side? The concept being it take more effort to lift the front, but you get more force and when they go up the tail will follow easily because its lighter...theoretically higher pop?

I remember back in the late 80’s we use to experiment with having higher risers on tail than on the nose to increase pop...which never felt right...but did help...so i guess this similar idea

On my shaped board I have standard in the front and hollow on the back. Accidentally mixed it up at the shop and grabbed the wrong one so I’ve just been running it. I don’t mind losing a couple grams in the back, especially on shaped decks. Would probably irk me if it was my everyday popsicle deck though.

Fat Tire · « **Reply #8766 on:** July 04, 2020, 10:54:48 AM »

Quote from: FrenchFriedClownFingers on July 03, 2020, 10:16:50 PM

the thunder bushings i ordered really suck. very stiff for 90a

i need some good bushings. i ride thunder 148 with the bolt barely fitting on

I ride Independent super soft bushings in my thunders, the white ones with the barrel bottom. Super loose.

FrenchFriedClownFingers · « **Reply #8767 on:** July 04, 2020, 01:12:09 PM »

Quote from: Fat Tire on July 04, 2020, 10:54:48 AM

Quote from: FrenchFriedClownFingers on July 03, 2020, 10:16:50 PM
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the thunder bushings i ordered really suck. very stiff for 90a

i need some good bushings. i ride thunder 148 with the bolt barely fitting on
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I ride Independent super soft bushings in my thunders, the white ones with the barrel bottom. Super loose.

ironic, i have a set of those from when i got my ex a board. i was yrying to use them but the bottom bushing doesnt fit into the washer. do you go washer-less?

backinaction · « **Reply #8768 on:** July 06, 2020, 03:44:36 PM »

Ishod Wair:

Thunder 147s (on an 8.3)
Stock bushings, but top bushings on top and boardside
three washers on the inside of each wheel to push the wheels out
52 mm wheels.

Timestamp: 11:27
https://youtu.be/JFJ1F_xGNPU?t=687

backinaction · « **Reply #8769 on:** July 06, 2020, 04:02:02 PM »

Ishod Wair:

Thunder 147s (on an 8.3)
Stock bushings, but top bushings on top and boardside
three washers on the inside of each wheel to push the wheels out
52 mm wheels.

Timestamp: 11:27
https://youtu.be/JFJ1F_xGNPU?t=687

munchbox · « **Reply #8770 on:** July 06, 2020, 06:02:51 PM »

Quote from: backinaction on July 06, 2020, 04:02:02 PM

Ishod Wair:

Thunder 147s (on an 8.3)
Stock bushings, but top bushings on top and boardside
three washers on the inside of each wheel to push the wheels out
52 mm wheels.

Timestamp: 11:27
https://youtu.be/JFJ1F_xGNPU?t=687

at that point why not ride 148s? i might try it out to see where the wheels sit in comparison

Fat Tire · « **Reply #8771 on:** July 06, 2020, 06:14:32 PM »

Quote from: FrenchFriedClownFingers on July 04, 2020, 01:12:09 PM

Quote from: Fat Tire on July 04, 2020, 10:54:48 AM
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Quote from: FrenchFriedClownFingers on July 03, 2020, 10:16:50 PM
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the thunder bushings i ordered really suck. very stiff for 90a

i need some good bushings. i ride thunder 148 with the bolt barely fitting on
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I ride Independent super soft bushings in my thunders, the white ones with the barrel bottom. Super loose.
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ironic, i have a set of those from when i got my ex a board. i was yrying to use them but the bottom bushing doesnt fit into the washer. do you go washer-less?

I use the washers that came with the aftermarket Indy bushings. They fit perfectly, the nut is flush with the kinpin.

Juanjo789 · « **Reply #8772 on:** July 07, 2020, 05:30:29 AM »

Quote from: backinaction on July 06, 2020, 04:02:02 PM

Ishod Wair:

Thunder 147s (on an 8.3)
Stock bushings, but top bushings on top and boardside
three washers on the inside of each wheel to push the wheels out
52 mm wheels.

Timestamp: 11:27
https://youtu.be/JFJ1F_xGNPU?t=687

doea he use bushing washers or nah
i got a friend that does this w/o washers on indys and his trucks are woobly as shit

Xen · « **Reply #8773 on:** July 07, 2020, 12:52:22 PM »

Quote from: off on July 06, 2020, 06:02:51 PM

Quote from: backinaction on July 06, 2020, 04:02:02 PM
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Ishod Wair:

Thunder 147s (on an 8.3)
Stock bushings, but top bushings on top and boardside
three washers on the inside of each wheel to push the wheels out
52 mm wheels.

Timestamp: 11:27
https://youtu.be/JFJ1F_xGNPU?t=687
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at that point why not ride 148s? i might try it out to see where the wheels sit in comparison

For reals. Not sure about the two top bushings tho lol - I did for the hell of it and holy shit so much kingpin showing and geo is waaay off, like a stupidly low thunder lol

Quote from: Juanjo789 on July 07, 2020, 05:30:29 AM

Quote from: backinaction on July 06, 2020, 04:02:02 PM
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Ishod Wair:

Thunder 147s (on an 8.3)
Stock bushings, but top bushings on top and boardside
three washers on the inside of each wheel to push the wheels out
52 mm wheels.

Timestamp: 11:27
https://youtu.be/JFJ1F_xGNPU?t=687
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doea he use bushing washers or nah
i got a friend that does this w/o washers on indys and his trucks are woobly as shit

He notes using two small (top) washers - no idea if he means two total per truck or just two small as bottoms

backinaction · « **Reply #8774 on:** July 07, 2020, 01:57:58 PM »

Quote from: Xen on July 07, 2020, 12:52:22 PM

For reals. Not sure about the two top bushings tho lol - I did for the hell of it and holy shit so much kingpin showing and geo is waaay off, like a stupidly low thunder lol

I have an extra 8.3 twin tail, some 147 hollow lights and some 52 spit classics. Maybe I'll get bored and try his setup. (although he didn't mention if he did forged or cast baseplates)

Xen · « **Reply #8775 on:** July 07, 2020, 02:08:05 PM »

Quote from: backinaction on July 07, 2020, 01:57:58 PM

Quote from: Xen on July 07, 2020, 12:52:22 PM
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For reals. Not sure about the two top bushings tho lol - I did for the hell of it and holy shit so much kingpin showing and geo is waaay off, like a stupidly low thunder lol
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I have an extra 8.3 twin tail, some 147 hollow lights and some 52 spit classics. Maybe I'll get bored and try his setup. (although he didn't mention if he did forged or cast baseplates)

Ha, I do too! Tho I would need to move my thunders over...8" on an 8.38" I can't do the [old] Reynolds/Ellington magic carpets.

babywantsbluevelvet · « **Reply #8776 on:** July 07, 2020, 03:05:41 PM »

Just put an initial 45 minutes of sharp turns and slap grinds on new Thunder 161s. I have them with stock bushings and factory tightness and am really surprised by how well they turn, though they’re a bit loose for me (got pitched a couple times from wheel bite). Do the bushings harden up after a while, or should I go ahead and tighten them down? Just want to do the correct thing to make these bushings last. I love the cough syrup blue color...

Fat Tire · « **Reply #8777 on:** July 07, 2020, 05:28:54 PM »

Quote from: babywantsbluevelvet on July 07, 2020, 03:05:41 PM

Just put an initial 45 minutes of sharp turns and slap grinds on new Thunder 161s. I have them with stock bushings and factory tightness and am really surprised by how well they turn, though they’re a bit loose for me (got pitched a couple times from wheel bite). Do the bushings harden up after a while, or should I go ahead and tighten them down? Just want to do the correct thing to make these bushings last. I love the cough syrup blue color...

they tighten up just keep skating them

babywantsbluevelvet · « **Reply #8778 on:** July 07, 2020, 05:50:29 PM »

Quote from: Fat Tire on July 07, 2020, 05:28:54 PM

Quote from: babywantsbluevelvet on July 07, 2020, 03:05:41 PM
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Just put an initial 45 minutes of sharp turns and slap grinds on new Thunder 161s. I have them with stock bushings and factory tightness and am really surprised by how well they turn, though they’re a bit loose for me (got pitched a couple times from wheel bite). Do the bushings harden up after a while, or should I go ahead and tighten them down? Just want to do the correct thing to make these bushings last. I love the cough syrup blue color...
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they tighten up just keep skating them

Thanks, I’ll just take it easy until they do

lysdexia · « **Reply #8779 on:** July 07, 2020, 07:09:39 PM »

Quote from: off on July 06, 2020, 06:02:51 PM

Quote from: backinaction on July 06, 2020, 04:02:02 PM
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Ishod Wair:

Thunder 147s (on an 8.3)
Stock bushings, but top bushings on top and boardside
three washers on the inside of each wheel to push the wheels out
52 mm wheels.

Timestamp: 11:27
https://youtu.be/JFJ1F_xGNPU?t=687
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at that point why not ride 148s? i might try it out to see where the wheels sit in comparison

i think 147s are lower than 148s and up? that's about the only reason i could imagine doing that

mynameisnotjeff · « **Reply #8780 on:** July 07, 2020, 07:39:27 PM »

Quote from: lysdexia on July 07, 2020, 07:09:39 PM

Quote from: off on July 06, 2020, 06:02:51 PM
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Ishod Wair:

Thunder 147s (on an 8.3)
Stock bushings, but top bushings on top and boardside
three washers on the inside of each wheel to push the wheels out
52 mm wheels.

Timestamp: 11:27
https://youtu.be/JFJ1F_xGNPU?t=687
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at that point why not ride 148s? i might try it out to see where the wheels sit in comparison
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i think 147s are lower than 148s and up? that's about the only reason i could imagine doing that

It’s so the nut is flush and he can continue to use his trucks without the need to rethread.

Ok · « **Reply #8781 on:** July 07, 2020, 08:52:20 PM »

Quote from: mynameisnotjeff on July 07, 2020, 07:39:27 PM

Quote from: lysdexia on July 07, 2020, 07:09:39 PM
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Quote from: off on July 06, 2020, 06:02:51 PM
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Quote from: backinaction on July 06, 2020, 04:02:02 PM
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Ishod Wair:

Thunder 147s (on an 8.3)
Stock bushings, but top bushings on top and boardside
three washers on the inside of each wheel to push the wheels out
52 mm wheels.

Timestamp: 11:27
https://youtu.be/JFJ1F_xGNPU?t=687
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at that point why not ride 148s? i might try it out to see where the wheels sit in comparison
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i think 147s are lower than 148s and up? that's about the only reason i could imagine doing that
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It’s so the nut is flush and he can continue to use his trucks without the need to rethread.

BIA: thanks for this gem. Ishod is the best. I for sure want to try this, because Ishod. It’s always way too interesting for me to hear/see a pro talk about their setup, and this was some next level shit. I’m pretty shocked, he says he’s been doing this for awhile, looking at his footage I always thought he was on 149s. Busenitz did 147s for awhile, but his setups looked like that.
I believe ishod does this setup because 147s sit different/lower than the rest of thunders larger sizes. I didn’t catch what wheel he said. Doesn’t grant Taylor only use like 52 wheel?
I wouldn’t be surprised, at all, if it turns out he was skating 148s. Tons of rippers and a few pros seemingly don’t know the name/specs of their equipment, which is both rad/weird to me. He was sounding like a bit of an equipment nerd tho, and he’s obviously tried some shit....the amount of folks saying bolt, when they mean nut is wild to me.

Juanjo789 · « **Reply #8782 on:** July 07, 2020, 09:49:57 PM »

Im riding Ace 44 w/o the top washer and with 1/8 risers with worn down 56 conical full
Recently went from 14.75 to 14.25 wb but it hasnt been too bad. Its fun to skate but Im wobbling when trying to ollie while cruising downhill I could tighten them but I got nothing to lose so I might as well try and get used to it

Paperclip20 · « **Reply #8783 on:** July 08, 2020, 04:43:36 AM »

Stock ace 44's cleared my madness. They just work for me and the lowish height plus mellow pop is everything I need. I really tried ventures for awhile but the height on the highs is too much.

tzhangdox · « **Reply #8784 on:** July 08, 2020, 12:18:19 PM »

Quote from: Ok on July 07, 2020, 08:52:20 PM

Quote from: mynameisnotjeff on July 07, 2020, 07:39:27 PM
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Quote from: lysdexia on July 07, 2020, 07:09:39 PM
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Ishod Wair:

Thunder 147s (on an 8.3)
Stock bushings, but top bushings on top and boardside
three washers on the inside of each wheel to push the wheels out
52 mm wheels.

Timestamp: 11:27
https://youtu.be/JFJ1F_xGNPU?t=687
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at that point why not ride 148s? i might try it out to see where the wheels sit in comparison
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i think 147s are lower than 148s and up? that's about the only reason i could imagine doing that
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It’s so the nut is flush and he can continue to use his trucks without the need to rethread.
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BIA: thanks for this gem. Ishod is the best. I for sure want to try this, because Ishod. It’s always way too interesting for me to hear/see a pro talk about their setup, and this was some next level shit. I’m pretty shocked, he says he’s been doing this for awhile, looking at his footage I always thought he was on 149s. Busenitz did 147s for awhile, but his setups looked like that.
I believe ishod does this setup because 147s sit different/lower than the rest of thunders larger sizes. I didn’t catch what wheel he said. Doesn’t grant Taylor only use like 52 wheel?
I wouldn’t be surprised, at all, if it turns out he was skating 148s. Tons of rippers and a few pros seemingly don’t know the name/specs of their equipment, which is both rad/weird to me. He was sounding like a bit of an equipment nerd tho, and he’s obviously tried some shit....the amount of folks saying bolt, when they mean nut is wild to me.

He said he used to skate 149s... put on 147s because he wanted to skate this rail against a wall without having the axles scraping the wall, but never got around to skating that rail lol.

Cindaykook · « **Reply #8785 on:** July 09, 2020, 01:49:29 PM »

Doing the opposite of Ishod. I’ve been running Indy 144 titanium’s on a 8.125. I’ve been liking it pretty well. Have a little more wheel poking out which makes grinds feel easier. But I land primo way more often.

WoodRat · « **Reply #8786 on:** July 09, 2020, 03:10:52 PM »

Thunder 147 Hallows with Bones Med. no washers.

Uncle Flea · « **Reply #8787 on:** July 09, 2020, 04:51:27 PM »

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Odd setup I threw together last second today to get an extra board out to the park. Indy 149 with khiro 95a cylinder with no bottom washer, and a broken in orange indy small cone with a washer. I weigh around 225, but it felt tight truck stable until I decided to start carving hair-pin figure 8's!

I usually ride super loose rattley Daewon style with khiro 95a hard core cones, but the stability felt cool while still having the insane quick turn ability.
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Does it return to center without a bottom washer?
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So far, yes. It's already starting to mold around the plate, though, so I'm thinking it's not gonna work long term. I'm all for bottom washer if I can make it fit. I've tried longer kingpins and don't like losing the clearance. Should I shave off some of the cylinder bottom bushing?

Try a bottle cap

gaunting · « **Reply #8788 on:** July 09, 2020, 06:09:05 PM »

someone please help me. I got a pair of thunder 147’s about 3 months ago, they felt great off the rip. after breaking them in, they wouldn’t turn, bushings felt rock hard. then I got a pair of thunder 145’s about a month ago, felt great at first, after breaking them in they too wouldn’t turn!! what the fuck.

ducky darnsworth · « **Reply #8789 on:** July 10, 2020, 03:47:44 AM »

ok so i have indys cause i focused my theeves (which i liked more) and im sorta over it cause they cant really tighten down enough to my liking so i get wheelbite 24/7, and im thinking of impulse buying either some krux or aces, if anybody has any opinions or comments on the matter im open to it.