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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #8880 on: August 01, 2020, 10:18:35 AM »


Seems like both Krux and Indy inverted kingpins are the same.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #8881 on: August 01, 2020, 05:39:22 PM »






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Normally skate 8.5s and 159s, but my truck with my board was stolen a few years back and wanted to try these bigger trucks when it came time to buy new shit. Then i have some Ace 44s so decided i'd downsize but theyre just too small of trucks for what i like, so i decided im gonna slap these big bad mother fuckers on this.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #8882 on: August 01, 2020, 06:02:12 PM »
I read/heard recently a pro was using 2 top bushings on Indy trucks, reducing the height and helping the turn...has anyone tried this?

Seems to me the geometry would change a lot and the kingpin would he too exposed as youd have screw down the bolt more...

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #8883 on: August 02, 2020, 04:35:27 AM »
Not worth starting a thread over but I'm starting to succumb  to truck madness. Currently on 5.8 ventutes but have a pair of 149 Indy hollows. Is the general idea ventures extend WB and work better on mellow kicks/more fingers of flat while Indy's shorten WB and are better for steep kicks/less fingers of flat?
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #8884 on: August 02, 2020, 06:46:10 AM »
Not worth starting a thread over but I'm starting to succumb  to truck madness. Currently on 5.8 ventutes but have a pair of 149 Indy hollows. Is the general idea ventures extend WB and work better on mellow kicks/more fingers of flat while Indy's shorten WB and are better for steep kicks/less fingers of flat?
in theory yes but everyone has their own preference

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #8885 on: August 02, 2020, 07:16:43 AM »
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Not worth starting a thread over but I'm starting to succumb  to truck madness. Currently on 5.8 ventutes but have a pair of 149 Indy hollows. Is the general idea ventures extend WB and work better on mellow kicks/more fingers of flat while Indy's shorten WB and are better for steep kicks/less fingers of flat?
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in theory yes but everyone has their own preference

I'm about to set up a polar with a 14.5 WB and 2 fingers of flat so I'm torn between my broken in ventures or putting the Indy's back on.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #8886 on: August 02, 2020, 07:23:49 AM »


Seems like both Krux and Indy inverted kingpins are the same.

I was listening to a podcast where Alex White lead on to them being different but I could see it happening. 

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #8887 on: August 02, 2020, 07:47:39 AM »
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Not worth starting a thread over but I'm starting to succumb  to truck madness. Currently on 5.8 ventutes but have a pair of 149 Indy hollows. Is the general idea ventures extend WB and work better on mellow kicks/more fingers of flat while Indy's shorten WB and are better for steep kicks/less fingers of flat?
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in theory yes but everyone has their own preference
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I'm about to set up a polar with a 14.5 WB and 2 fingers of flat so I'm torn between my broken in ventures or putting the Indy's back on.

Every time I've gone down the rabbit hole of changing trucks because of moving to a different deck shape I've regretted it. It's way easier to get used to a different  shape than an different set of trucks.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #8888 on: August 02, 2020, 08:48:49 AM »


Seems like both Krux and Indy inverted kingpins are the same.

So shes the reason there are kittens, jellybeans, hotdogs, faux fur, woodgrain and such all over Krux....

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #8889 on: August 02, 2020, 08:50:58 AM »
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Been a while since I was on Indy TI (not since they've moved production to China), guess they are screening under the hanger now?

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Just a sidenote if you want softer pivot cups and don't want to pay $15, you can get khiro softs for like $1. They fit fine in indys (a little overlap but you can trim that if you want to make it a pain in the ass to remove them in the future), venture, and every other truck I've tried them in. Just beware that Khiro is out of business so whats on the market now is all that there's going to be, so I'd suggest stocking up if you like them.

Ran khiros forever like 10 years ago...sad they went out of biz.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #8890 on: August 02, 2020, 10:03:33 AM »
I bought two of those tackle boxes full of khiro product back in the day. I still have some pivot cups luckily. It's probably why I haven't bought the riptides.

I knew the guy behind khiro passed, but I didn't know that they shut it down.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #8891 on: August 02, 2020, 11:37:07 AM »
where can i get a set of small ass trucks? smaller than the indy 109s

i am having trouble finding some small trucks for a old school carving type board. i have hangars but no baseplates

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #8892 on: August 02, 2020, 01:04:29 PM »
I bought two of those tackle boxes full of khiro product back in the day. I still have some pivot cups luckily. It's probably why I haven't bought the riptides.

I knew the guy behind khiro passed, but I didn't know that they shut it down.

i noticed that it was shut down, but didn't know why, that's really sad.

it was a bit more of a longboard focused company, but they made bushings and risers of like every shape and urethane duro, back when there weren't a lot of options for that sort of thing. shame to watch em go.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #8893 on: August 02, 2020, 03:07:03 PM »
anybody ride standard thunder 147's, or any size with the same height, with 56+mm wheels?

the madness is real right now. debating going from indy ti 139 to standard 139 for ridiculous reasons.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #8894 on: August 02, 2020, 03:07:50 PM »
Needle nose pliers work well to remove a pivot cup. Does anyone know what the dimensions are for venture low bushings? Like how tall each bushing is?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #8895 on: August 02, 2020, 03:12:37 PM »
anybody ride standard thunder 147's, or any size with the same height, with 56+mm wheels?

the madness is real right now. debating going from indy ti 139 to standard 139 for ridiculous reasons.

I can’t imagine 147s on more than 54, I wouldn’t ride 53s....

Try a small riser with your indy ti first.
Why 56?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #8896 on: August 02, 2020, 03:51:40 PM »
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anybody ride standard thunder 147's, or any size with the same height, with 56+mm wheels?

the madness is real right now. debating going from indy ti 139 to standard 139 for ridiculous reasons.
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I can’t imagine 147s on more than 54, I wouldn’t ride 53s....

Try a small riser with your indy ti first.
Why 56?

i was thinking the same thing. gonna hunt down some 54mm clouds then. but 56 because I have two sets of clouds, both 56mm. one set 86a chrome, other 78a. got them to make these crusty streets a little better while my old ass back gets unfucked lol. and i have a box with a variety of 8" axle trucks I've accumulated. so been messing around with deck wheelbase, truck/wheel combos and trying to find that sweet spot for what i do. and what i do is trash hah
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #8897 on: August 02, 2020, 04:06:11 PM »
Because of the "what was your setup on your best day" I feel like trying some 5.6 on a 8.5 board. Years ago I skated the best in years on a 8?5 with 8" theeve
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forgive me if i somehow missed it, but could someone help me with just how flat the flat as fuck decks really are?
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #8898 on: August 02, 2020, 04:17:52 PM »
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anybody ride standard thunder 147's, or any size with the same height, with 56+mm wheels?

the madness is real right now. debating going from indy ti 139 to standard 139 for ridiculous reasons.
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I can’t imagine 147s on more than 54, I wouldn’t ride 53s....

Try a small riser with your indy ti first.
Why 56?
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i was thinking the same thing. gonna hunt down some 54mm clouds then. but 56 because I have two sets of clouds, both 56mm. one set 86a chrome, other 78a. got them to make these crusty streets a little better while my old ass back gets unfucked lol. and i have a box with a variety of 8" axle trucks I've accumulated. so been messing around with deck wheelbase, truck/wheel combos and trying to find that sweet spot for what i do. and what i do is trash hah

8” trucks are great.
I’d just stick with what you have. Use risers. Especially for a cruiser ish type getting back into it. I mean buy more shit from a cool shop, for sure, but.....nah. Spend some money on a massage or yoga lessons or some shit for your back. Back pain is fucked. No position is safe and comfortable (as you know). Cruising wheels will wear down. I’ve got 56 keyframes (so basically the same) and on my Regular 159s I get horrific wheel bite. Ace trucks don’t wheelbite as much for me. Thunders are awesome to skate, but I get wheelbite too much for me to want to use them as a cruiser with big wheels.
I’m rambling per usual. I’d just make do, particularly when injured.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #8899 on: August 03, 2020, 02:02:08 PM »
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Bump!!

I also wanna know. Busy breaking in some 148 teams. Great truck but cant get it loose enough to my liking. Dont get me wrong i like it a lot but if i HAVE to change the bushings will bones meds make them more turney? Heard all kinds of shit with bones changing geo etc what your take?

My madness is telling me just leave them stock, great truck either way.

However if they go much stiffer i might maybe just have to.
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In my thunder 149 teams I just swapped the top washer on both of them for a bones flat washer. I really like the turn of ace, and have found this little thing to make my thunders super surfy.
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MalHuis, try a flat washer ^ or no top washer at all. flat washers work great on Thunders and Ventures.
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There we go, here is the insight i was looking for. Thanks gentleman! Will do the top washer and see the difference it makes and report back. Either this or will go full person and go bones :)

So the madness starts with the Thunders!!
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I’d also like to add that I only weigh 120lbs, and had trouble with thunders feeling too tight (especially coming from ace). But with trading the stock top for a flat top washer it made a noticeable difference.

Little bit.

Just flip your kingpin nut upside down. The nylock will be on the inside giving you extra threads but if it doesn't get a bite into the metal it may fall off.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #8900 on: August 03, 2020, 02:59:12 PM »


Seems like both Krux and Indy inverted kingpins are the same.
wtf is up with how those wheels sound

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #8901 on: August 03, 2020, 09:28:03 PM »
Got my new ti indy’s in my car, got crazy hot all day so I’m sure the bushings got soft. That gonna help break them in?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #8902 on: August 04, 2020, 07:47:09 PM »
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Seems like both Krux and Indy inverted kingpins are the same.
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wtf is up with how those wheels sound

What do you mean?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #8903 on: August 05, 2020, 12:49:47 AM »
Needle nose pliers work well to remove a pivot cup. Does anyone know what the dimensions are for venture low bushings? Like how tall each bushing is?

They're the same as all venture bushings, the lows aren't any different. I know the bottoms are 12.7mm, can't remember the tops off-hand and I don't have a set close by to check but I want to say 9.2mm or thereabouts.

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« Reply #8904 on: August 05, 2020, 05:14:35 AM »
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Seems like both Krux and Indy inverted kingpins are the same.
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wtf is up with how those wheels sound

It's just a shitty mic.

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« Reply #8905 on: August 05, 2020, 05:24:50 AM »
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Needle nose pliers work well to remove a pivot cup. Does anyone know what the dimensions are for venture low bushings? Like how tall each bushing is?
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They're the same as all venture bushings, the lows aren't any different. I know the bottoms are 12.7mm, can't remember the tops off-hand and I don't have a set close by to check but I want to say 9.2mm or thereabouts.

I hear this BUT I've always thought they looked lower and when I was swapping out a set of lows recently I saw the bottom barrel is slightly shorter and had to sand a set of supercush to make them the same height. I'll measure and take pics when I get home from work.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #8906 on: August 05, 2020, 06:40:31 AM »
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Needle nose pliers work well to remove a pivot cup. Does anyone know what the dimensions are for venture low bushings? Like how tall each bushing is?
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They're the same as all venture bushings, the lows aren't any different. I know the bottoms are 12.7mm, can't remember the tops off-hand and I don't have a set close by to check but I want to say 9.2mm or thereabouts.
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I hear this BUT I've always thought they looked lower and when I was swapping out a set of lows recently I saw the bottom barrel is slightly shorter and had to sand a set of supercush to make them the same height. I'll measure and take pics when I get home from work.

I emailed them about it a while back and they said they're all the same size and duro. Also on another forum someone said they've seen the assembly room and they pull them all from the same bins regardless of the truck, the only thing that changes is the color. I wouldn't doubt that you may have had some aftermarket ones that were weird, but as far as the straight stock ones go there shouldnt be any difference.

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« Reply #8907 on: August 05, 2020, 07:32:24 AM »
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Needle nose pliers work well to remove a pivot cup. Does anyone know what the dimensions are for venture low bushings? Like how tall each bushing is?
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They're the same as all venture bushings, the lows aren't any different. I know the bottoms are 12.7mm, can't remember the tops off-hand and I don't have a set close by to check but I want to say 9.2mm or thereabouts.
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I hear this BUT I've always thought they looked lower and when I was swapping out a set of lows recently I saw the bottom barrel is slightly shorter and had to sand a set of supercush to make them the same height. I'll measure and take pics when I get home from work.
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I emailed them about it a while back and they said they're all the same size and duro. Also on another forum someone said they've seen the assembly room and they pull them all from the same bins regardless of the truck, the only thing that changes is the color. I wouldn't doubt that you may have had some aftermarket ones that were weird, but as far as the straight stock ones go there shouldnt be any difference.

I know, I've heard the same things but I'm not talking about aftermarket. I swear, stocks from highs and lows side by side, the barrels for the lows are like 1-2mm shorter. The only after markets I've used in lows (supercush) needed to be shaved down.

Pics as soon as I get home, and if I'm wrong I'll fully admit in.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #8908 on: August 05, 2020, 07:39:27 AM »
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Needle nose pliers work well to remove a pivot cup. Does anyone know what the dimensions are for venture low bushings? Like how tall each bushing is?
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They're the same as all venture bushings, the lows aren't any different. I know the bottoms are 12.7mm, can't remember the tops off-hand and I don't have a set close by to check but I want to say 9.2mm or thereabouts.
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I hear this BUT I've always thought they looked lower and when I was swapping out a set of lows recently I saw the bottom barrel is slightly shorter and had to sand a set of supercush to make them the same height. I'll measure and take pics when I get home from work.
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I emailed them about it a while back and they said they're all the same size and duro. Also on another forum someone said they've seen the assembly room and they pull them all from the same bins regardless of the truck, the only thing that changes is the color. I wouldn't doubt that you may have had some aftermarket ones that were weird, but as far as the straight stock ones go there shouldnt be any difference.
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I know, I've heard the same things but I'm not talking about aftermarket. I swear, stocks from highs and lows side by side, the barrels for the lows are like 1-2mm shorter. The only after markets I've used in lows (supercush) needed to be shaved down.

Pics as soon as I get home, and if I'm wrong I'll fully admit in.

It may have changed since the move to China, but stock indy bottoms were a 1/2mm taller than after market barrels (with aftermarket conical being stock height). Tops were the same. Essentially the aftermarket 'standards' were damn close to low bottoms.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #8909 on: August 05, 2020, 09:00:58 AM »
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Seems like both Krux and Indy inverted kingpins are the same.
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wtf is up with how those wheels sound
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It's just a shitty mic.
right then buy a set of rictas and let me know how much you love the way they sound and slide