New Balance # containment thread

[Atiba Applebum]

Looks like these were both the pairs teased in the thrasher tour announcement and I was expecting the blue to be blue and grey but this white and blues even better imo.


Damn good memory.   The white gum’s there too

[Llewellyn Moss]

Sizing-fit question for #NB Heads:

- usual us10 on Tiagos 1010 for the past couple years looking to move to either 480 Highs and/or 440 Highs due to recent ankle episodes  :'(

Should i go with a 10 on those as well? or do they fit very different (particullary concerned about the forefoot area since y have quite wider feet up there)

cheers!

I'm a 9 in every 440 high, I think nine or 10 pairs I've had now both v1 and v2. First pair of 480 high and the 9 there fits tts for my foot.

The one pair of 1010s I have in 9.5. Went up half size because couple pairs I tried on ran just a touch small. Might also note that the 1010s have a little more arch support than 440/480.

Edit: Didn't notice your concern  of forefoot area til now. 480 has a wider toebox than 440.

[uesty]

regarding the tom knox 600: numeric switched warehouses and it led to a ton of untimely shipping delays for q4 stuff. some shops got their size runs on time some didn't 

[tysj!]

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Sizing-fit question for #NB Heads:

- usual us10 on Tiagos 1010 for the past couple years looking to move to either 480 Highs and/or 440 Highs due to recent ankle episodes  :'(

Should i go with a 10 on those as well? or do they fit very different (particullary concerned about the forefoot area since y have quite wider feet up there)

cheers!

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I'm a 9 in every 440 high, I think nine or 10 pairs I've had now both v1 and v2. First pair of 480 high and the 9 there fits tts for my foot.

The one pair of 1010s I have in 9.5. Went up half size because couple pairs I tried on ran just a touch small. Might also note that the 1010s have a little more arch support than 440/480.

I must be crazy since I find myself experiencing the opposite for 1010s and 933s. I run a 9 in everything including the 440v2 high and low, but the 1010s and 933s are just a tad bit too long for me. I can skate in them, but the sole is visibly longer on both.

[Llewellyn Moss]

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I'm a 9 in every 440 high, I think nine or 10 pairs I've had now both v1 and v2. First pair of 480 high and the 9 there fits tts for my foot.

The one pair of 1010s I have in 9.5. Went up half size because couple pairs I tried on ran just a touch small. Might also note that the 1010s have a little more arch support than 440/480.

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I must be crazy since I find myself experiencing the opposite for 1010s and 933s. I run a 9 in everything including the 440v2 high and low, but the 1010s and 933s are just a tad bit too long for me. I can skate in them, but the sole is visibly longer on both.

Same issue with the 1010 being too long, threw off my skating a lot when I switched 440 to 1010. The sole felt slippery compared to the grip I was used to on the 440 sole.

[Mcidraque]

Gracias to everyone PALS!

[DirtCat]

I bought some 480s and JFC they feel like I've just wrapped my feet in cardboard.  Stiff and shitty.

I'm wondering if it's worth trying the 933 or if I should just stick with 600s

[cjscoot]

If that’s how you feel about the 480 you probably won’t like the 933

I bought some 480s and JFC they feel like I've just wrapped my feet in cardboard.  Stiff and shitty.

I'm wondering if it's worth trying the 933 or if I should just stick with 600s

[Sdm74]

I bought some 480s and JFC they feel like I've just wrapped my feet in cardboard.  Stiff and shitty.

I'm wondering if it's worth trying the 933 or if I should just stick with 600s

There is no better shoe than the 600.
I have tried every model,except Westgate's shoe and Knox's 600 is the best skating shoe i ever had on my foot. The 440 is very flat feeling where the 600 feels like it was made to the contour of my foot….although I miss the old 420 numeric.

The 480 actually feels the board some compared to the 933 if that helps you.

[Rick Trapasso]

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Sizing-fit question for #NB Heads:

- usual us10 on Tiagos 1010 for the past couple years looking to move to either 480 Highs and/or 440 Highs due to recent ankle episodes  :'(

Should i go with a 10 on those as well? or do they fit very different (particullary concerned about the forefoot area since y have quite wider feet up there)

cheers!

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Yes, go for 10.

Yes, again, get a 10.

Also, if you have wider feet I can't see you liking the 440. Those puppies are snug.

Unless you've already tried the 440 low and liked it I would suggest just going the 480 high route.

[Sdm74]

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Sizing-fit question for #NB Heads:

- usual us10 on Tiagos 1010 for the past couple years looking to move to either 480 Highs and/or 440 Highs due to recent ankle episodes  :'(

Should i go with a 10 on those as well? or do they fit very different (particullary concerned about the forefoot area since y have quite wider feet up there)

cheers!

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Yes, go for 10.

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Yes, again, get a 10.

Also, if you have wider feet I can't see you liking the 440. Those puppies are snug.

Unless you've already tried the 440 low and liked it I would suggest just going the 480 high route.

Yes but the extra material on top in the “wide” version feels a bit like slippers, i just miss the arch support the 600 has. Only thing missing in the 440 at least compared to the 600.
My feet feel best in the 480, if they could lighten/slim that shoe down to get more feel , it would be the best shoe ever

[Rick Trapasso]

My feet feel best in the 480, if they could lighten/slim that shoe down to get more feel , it would be the best shoe ever

I'm on a skater owned shoe kick right now, but man that would pique my interest.

[chillclinton87]

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Sizing-fit question for #NB Heads:

- usual us10 on Tiagos 1010 for the past couple years looking to move to either 480 Highs and/or 440 Highs due to recent ankle episodes  :'(

Should i go with a 10 on those as well? or do they fit very different (particullary concerned about the forefoot area since y have quite wider feet up there)

cheers!

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Yes, go for 10.

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Yes, again, get a 10.

Also, if you have wider feet I can't see you liking the 440. Those puppies are snug.

Unless you've already tried the 440 low and liked it I would suggest just going the 480 high route.

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Yes but the extra material on top in the “wide” version feels a bit like slippers, i just miss the arch support the 600 has. Only thing missing in the 440 at least compared to the 600.
My feet feel best in the 480, if they could lighten/slim that shoe down to get more feel , it would be the best shoe ever

Damn, exact reason why i love the 480s…. Suede ones soften up after a bit and become a bit more flexible but still are a sturdy shoe.
The white leather highs took some break in time of about a month 

[Rick Trapasso]

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Sizing-fit question for #NB Heads:

- usual us10 on Tiagos 1010 for the past couple years looking to move to either 480 Highs and/or 440 Highs due to recent ankle episodes  :'(

Should i go with a 10 on those as well? or do they fit very different (particullary concerned about the forefoot area since y have quite wider feet up there)

cheers!

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Yes, go for 10.

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Yes, again, get a 10.

Also, if you have wider feet I can't see you liking the 440. Those puppies are snug.

Unless you've already tried the 440 low and liked it I would suggest just going the 480 high route.

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Yes but the extra material on top in the “wide” version feels a bit like slippers, i just miss the arch support the 600 has. Only thing missing in the 440 at least compared to the 600.
My feet feel best in the 480, if they could lighten/slim that shoe down to get more feel , it would be the best shoe ever

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Damn, exact reason why i love the 480s…. Suede ones soften up after a bit and become a bit more flexible but still are a sturdy shoe.
The white leather highs took some break in time of about a month 

The uppers def break in and get soft enough overtime. Especially the suede ones like you said. Those first white/red ones were especially stiff though. Felt like a completely different material than what was used on the white/grey ones.

If they made the heel portion of the midsole as thick as the forefoot now, that would be sick. Maybe remove a little forefoot too if possible.

Basically a 440 style midsole on a 480 upper/outsole. Oh man, what a dream.

[Llewellyn Moss]

The uppers def break in and get soft enough overtime. Especially the suede ones like you said. Those first white/red ones were especially stiff though. Felt like a completely different material than what was used on the white/grey ones.

If they made the heel portion of the midsole as thick as the forefoot now, that would be sick. Maybe remove a little forefoot too if possible.

Basically a 440 style midsole on a 480 upper/outsole. Oh man, what a dream.

So essentially the 480, just shorten the midsole so it isn't full length

[Rick Trapasso]

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The uppers def break in and get soft enough overtime. Especially the suede ones like you said. Those first white/red ones were especially stiff though. Felt like a completely different material than what was used on the white/grey ones.

If they made the heel portion of the midsole as thick as the forefoot now, that would be sick. Maybe remove a little forefoot too if possible.

Basically a 440 style midsole on a 480 upper/outsole. Oh man, what a dream.

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So essentially the 480, just shorten the midsole so it isn't full length

Yea, and thin the heel portion by like half. Not sure if it's the same material as the 440 midsole but it feels much thicker. Im sure the outsole thickness plays a part in this too.

I can see why they don't do this as it would overlap the 440 too much, and I get what they're trying to provide with the 480 (it's a great shoe)

That would just suit my particular preferences quite well. The thicker outsole and upper would beef up the 440 to my liking, and the overall shape of the 480 fits my toes much better.

If we're playing fantasy shoes here. 480 upper and outsole somehow modified slightly to provide better heel lock (like the 440). With a 440 esque midsole would be something super appealing to me. I don't mind trading the lack of heel lock in the 480 for the toe room it provides though, as I can always just lace them tighter.

[DarkPools]

That's it! We need the 460 - a blend of both hahah! 

It's funny how the 440 is ultimate boardfeel in the toe box, and the 480 is opposite of ultimate boardfeel in its toe box. I know I *almost* got the 440 to work for me with a thicker insole to feel *like* a 480 without being so stiff of a sole. However, I couldn't quite get the 480 to feel best whether I swapped thinner insoles or not. That sole is sturdy! Why it's so loved or disliked.

I think if I tried 480s again I would commit to them long term because that's the consensus I am seeing about them. Might be tough at first but break them in and they'll treat you exceptionally well!

[tzhangdox]

Yeah. 480 midsole feels great once they're broken in. They're also just a bit tippy and I dont think thats just due to the midsole thickness but also the construction. 440s feel very stable.

A 440 with a 480 midsole, and also the 480 upper for looks... pretty perfect shoe.

Side note: Have some size 13 868s and 770s for sale in the classifieds thread in case anyone is interested. 770s are pretty nice, but I dont think I'd prefer them over the 1010s and 933s I already have.

[Atiba Applebum]

Yeah. 480 midsole feels great once they're broken in. They're also just a bit tippy and I dont think thats just due to the midsole thickness but also the construction. 440s feel very stable.

A 440 with a 480 midsole, and also the 480 upper for looks... pretty perfect shoe.

Side note: Have some size 13 868s and 770s for sale in the classifieds thread in case anyone is interested. 770s are pretty nice, but I dont think I'd prefer them over the 1010s and 933s I already have.

Agree with you on 770s.   Like them a lot, but they’re competing with a very tough act in those other two models

[tzhangdox]

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Yeah. 480 midsole feels great once they're broken in. They're also just a bit tippy and I dont think thats just due to the midsole thickness but also the construction. 440s feel very stable.

A 440 with a 480 midsole, and also the 480 upper for looks... pretty perfect shoe.

Side note: Have some size 13 868s and 770s for sale in the classifieds thread in case anyone is interested. 770s are pretty nice, but I dont think I'd prefer them over the 1010s and 933s I already have.

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Agree with you on 770s.   Like them a lot, but they’re competing with a very tough act in those other two models

They're close to being very good. Can already tell they're going to have more boardfeel and flex than the 1010 and definitely the 933. Toe shape is pretty nice too, and they seem grippy.

But the tippiness of the rear isn't ideal. Its similar to the 480 in that regard. Not too bad, totally fine for some people, but I really like it when I'm standing in skate shoes, try to roll my ankle over, and can feel the shoe resisting that outward tipping motion. Goes a long way for peace of mind. 1010s, 933s, 440s, Jordan 1s and Dunks are all great in that department

[Atiba Applebum]

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Yeah. 480 midsole feels great once they're broken in. They're also just a bit tippy and I dont think thats just due to the midsole thickness but also the construction. 440s feel very stable.

A 440 with a 480 midsole, and also the 480 upper for looks... pretty perfect shoe.

Side note: Have some size 13 868s and 770s for sale in the classifieds thread in case anyone is interested. 770s are pretty nice, but I dont think I'd prefer them over the 1010s and 933s I already have.

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Agree with you on 770s.   Like them a lot, but they’re competing with a very tough act in those other two models

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They're close to being very good. Can already tell they're going to have more boardfeel and flex than the 1010 and definitely the 933. Toe shape is pretty nice too, and they seem grippy.

But the tippiness of the rear isn't ideal. Its similar to the 480 in that regard. Not too bad, totally fine for some people, but I really like it when I'm standing in skate shoes, try to roll my ankle over, and can feel the shoe resisting that outward tipping motion. Goes a long way for peace of mind. 1010s, 933s, 440s, Jordan 1s and Dunks are all great in that department

That’s why I like the 600s too.  Thinner shoe, but heel feels deep in the pocket, more than in the 440s maybe 1010s, but tht might be a memory issue since I’ve been wearing 600s and 933s mostly lately. 

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Yeah. 480 midsole feels great once they're broken in. They're also just a bit tippy and I dont think thats just due to the midsole thickness but also the construction. 440s feel very stable.

A 440 with a 480 midsole, and also the 480 upper for looks... pretty perfect shoe.

Side note: Have some size 13 868s and 770s for sale in the classifieds thread in case anyone is interested. 770s are pretty nice, but I dont think I'd prefer them over the 1010s and 933s I already have.

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Agree with you on 770s.   Like them a lot, but they’re competing with a very tough act in those other two models

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They're close to being very good. Can already tell they're going to have more boardfeel and flex than the 1010 and definitely the 933. Toe shape is pretty nice too, and they seem grippy.

But the tippiness of the rear isn't ideal. Its similar to the 480 in that regard. Not too bad, totally fine for some people, but I really like it when I'm standing in skate shoes, try to roll my ankle over, and can feel the shoe resisting that outward tipping motion. Goes a long way for peace of mind. 1010s, 933s, 440s, Jordan 1s and Dunks are all great in that department

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That’s why I like the 600s too.  Thinner shoe, but heel feels deep in the pocket, more than in the 440s maybe 1010s, but tht might be a memory issue since I’ve been wearing 600s and 933s mostly lately.

Opposite side of that is the adidas superstar. The rear of that shoe almost accelerates when I do the ankle roll test. Like the sole caves in and the upper folds over. I have wider than average heels but still...

[tzhangdox]

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Yeah. 480 midsole feels great once they're broken in. They're also just a bit tippy and I dont think thats just due to the midsole thickness but also the construction. 440s feel very stable.

A 440 with a 480 midsole, and also the 480 upper for looks... pretty perfect shoe.

Side note: Have some size 13 868s and 770s for sale in the classifieds thread in case anyone is interested. 770s are pretty nice, but I dont think I'd prefer them over the 1010s and 933s I already have.

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Agree with you on 770s.   Like them a lot, but they’re competing with a very tough act in those other two models

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They're close to being very good. Can already tell they're going to have more boardfeel and flex than the 1010 and definitely the 933. Toe shape is pretty nice too, and they seem grippy.

But the tippiness of the rear isn't ideal. Its similar to the 480 in that regard. Not too bad, totally fine for some people, but I really like it when I'm standing in skate shoes, try to roll my ankle over, and can feel the shoe resisting that outward tipping motion. Goes a long way for peace of mind. 1010s, 933s, 440s, Jordan 1s and Dunks are all great in that department

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That’s why I like the 600s too.  Thinner shoe, but heel feels deep in the pocket, more than in the 440s maybe 1010s, but tht might be a memory issue since I’ve been wearing 600s and 933s mostly lately.

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Opposite side of that is the adidas superstar. The rear of that shoe almost accelerates when I do the ankle roll test. Like the sole caves in and the upper folds over. I have wider than average heels but still...

Yup I feel the same. Sickest shoe too. If they were stable and fit my feet, black shellies with white stripes is all I would skate.

Interesting about the 600s though. I didn’t find those super tippy, but not particularly stable like the 440 933 and 1010 either. A lot of people love them though and I can totally see why

Maybe it depends on how wide the rear side of your foot is. Funny when people talk about wide shoes or wide feet it’s always the forefoot/toes. That confused me for a while. Think I got wide heels but probably a  normal forefoot that’s fits in most shoes

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Yeah. 480 midsole feels great once they're broken in. They're also just a bit tippy and I dont think thats just due to the midsole thickness but also the construction. 440s feel very stable.

A 440 with a 480 midsole, and also the 480 upper for looks... pretty perfect shoe.

Side note: Have some size 13 868s and 770s for sale in the classifieds thread in case anyone is interested. 770s are pretty nice, but I dont think I'd prefer them over the 1010s and 933s I already have.

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Agree with you on 770s.   Like them a lot, but they’re competing with a very tough act in those other two models

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They're close to being very good. Can already tell they're going to have more boardfeel and flex than the 1010 and definitely the 933. Toe shape is pretty nice too, and they seem grippy.

But the tippiness of the rear isn't ideal. Its similar to the 480 in that regard. Not too bad, totally fine for some people, but I really like it when I'm standing in skate shoes, try to roll my ankle over, and can feel the shoe resisting that outward tipping motion. Goes a long way for peace of mind. 1010s, 933s, 440s, Jordan 1s and Dunks are all great in that department

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That’s why I like the 600s too.  Thinner shoe, but heel feels deep in the pocket, more than in the 440s maybe 1010s, but tht might be a memory issue since I’ve been wearing 600s and 933s mostly lately.

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Opposite side of that is the adidas superstar. The rear of that shoe almost accelerates when I do the ankle roll test. Like the sole caves in and the upper folds over. I have wider than average heels but still...

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Yup I feel the same. Sickest shoe too. If they were stable and fit my feet, black shellies with white stripes is all I would skate.

Interesting about the 600s though. I didn’t find those super tippy, but not particularly stable like the 440 933 and 1010 either. A lot of people love them though and I can totally see why

Maybe it depends on how wide the rear side of your foot is. Funny when people talk about wide shoes or wide feet it’s always the forefoot/toes. That confused me for a while. Think I got wide heels but probably a  normal forefoot that’s fits in most shoes

When I look, it doesn't even look like my heels are wider than the heel of the sole too. I think it just needs a stronger plastic reinforcement back there. Upper seems way to flimsy in that area.

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Yeah. 480 midsole feels great once they're broken in. They're also just a bit tippy and I dont think thats just due to the midsole thickness but also the construction. 440s feel very stable.

A 440 with a 480 midsole, and also the 480 upper for looks... pretty perfect shoe.

Side note: Have some size 13 868s and 770s for sale in the classifieds thread in case anyone is interested. 770s are pretty nice, but I dont think I'd prefer them over the 1010s and 933s I already have.

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Agree with you on 770s.   Like them a lot, but they’re competing with a very tough act in those other two models

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They're close to being very good. Can already tell they're going to have more boardfeel and flex than the 1010 and definitely the 933. Toe shape is pretty nice too, and they seem grippy.

But the tippiness of the rear isn't ideal. Its similar to the 480 in that regard. Not too bad, totally fine for some people, but I really like it when I'm standing in skate shoes, try to roll my ankle over, and can feel the shoe resisting that outward tipping motion. Goes a long way for peace of mind. 1010s, 933s, 440s, Jordan 1s and Dunks are all great in that department

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That’s why I like the 600s too.  Thinner shoe, but heel feels deep in the pocket, more than in the 440s maybe 1010s, but tht might be a memory issue since I’ve been wearing 600s and 933s mostly lately.

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Opposite side of that is the adidas superstar. The rear of that shoe almost accelerates when I do the ankle roll test. Like the sole caves in and the upper folds over. I have wider than average heels but still...

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Yup I feel the same. Sickest shoe too. If they were stable and fit my feet, black shellies with white stripes is all I would skate.

Interesting about the 600s though. I didn’t find those super tippy, but not particularly stable like the 440 933 and 1010 either. A lot of people love them though and I can totally see why

Maybe it depends on how wide the rear side of your foot is. Funny when people talk about wide shoes or wide feet it’s always the forefoot/toes. That confused me for a while. Think I got wide heels but probably a  normal forefoot that’s fits in most shoes

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When I look, it doesn't even look like my heels are wider than the heel of the sole too. I think it just needs a stronger plastic reinforcement back there. Upper seems way to flimsy in that area.

I’m in the same boat—can’t skate superstars because they roll so easily. Skating more than 30 years and never had a shoe that rolled like this.

[arrbee]

Kinetic is doing BOGO on the Grand 770 for anyone interested

[Curbyourenthusiasm]

Does anyone have any info about the realtree 1010 release window? A thousand pardons if its already been discussed. I screenshotted them on Ryan Lay's story awhile ago

[dunc]

Does anyone have any info about the realtree 1010 release window? A thousand pardons if its already been discussed. I screenshotted them on Ryan Lay's story awhile ago

Can't seem to see any shoes in your pic.

[moonordie]

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Does anyone have any info about the realtree 1010 release window? A thousand pardons if its already been discussed. I screenshotted them on Ryan Lay's story awhile ago

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Can't seem to see any shoes in your pic.

They look pretty dope.

[DarkPools]

Perhaps they *joked* about not seeing the shoes because (checks notes) they have a camouflage colorway    hahah