Is Dwindle actaully the best board manufacturer?

[perverted super otaku!]

They seem to be the only one that can offer consistent concave by pressing one board per mold. They also use silk-screening for graphics which is more gentle on boards then heat transfers( edit they use heat transfers now).
They get hate but has anyone ever actually got a defective or shitty Dwindle pressed deck?

I always steered clear because of they are made in China, but I think the next board I get will be Dwindle pressed to see if these things translate to a longer lasting better board. Interested to hear your guys thoughts on Dwindle boards

basing this on these videos

http://skateboarding.transworld.net/videos/tested-development-skateboard-manufacturing-dsm/#hTLU8gpHx8F2ilkw.97

[BMCsteve]

99% of Dwindle boards are heat transfers now

Their boards are fine.  you will find mixed reviews on them.  The impact stuff actually does work but it only really matters if you break a lot of boards.

Personally I've found in terms of quality and durability the scale is -

South Central -> Pennswood -> BBS -> NHS -> Dwindle -> PS Stix -> Crailtap

After that some of it comes down to preference in feel, shapes and dimensions.  Some people prefer the way china wood feels or the shapes from PS boards, etc

South Central and Pennswood seem to be head and shoulders above the rest.  They're also made in the USA if that matters

[Noble Experiment]

Dwindle boards aren't too bad. Their 8.5 x 32 full concave shape is fantastic though; I'm a big fan

[perverted super otaku!]

99% of Dwindle boards are heat transfers now



South Central and Pennswood seem to be head and shoulders above the rest.  They're also made in the USA if that matters

You are correct on the heat transfers, they actually even mention it in that 2nd video, my mistake

[oyolar]

BMC: I really like BBS/Generator wood.  It feels more stable longer than others.  Who uses South Central and Pennswood? Aren't Scum Co, Politic, and Killing Floor SC?

[the snake]

had a 8.25 resin7 zero last year, was good to ride, a lil too flat but i didn't noticed first, my bad, lasted 3 months of intense skating, the only bad point is that it tends to cheap easy, not like Real, a shock in a ledge and you lose bits of plys, bad wood quality, or too dry i dunno, i'll stick with bbs while i can find them

edit : and oh yeah, when i focused it after a big crack at the rear truck (as always...), it broke in the middle !!!

edit2 : razortail comes faster too

my conclusion, good resin, bad quality wood

[BMCsteve]

BMC: I really like BBS/Generator wood.  It feels more stable longer than others.  Who uses South Central and Pennswood? Aren't Scum Co, Politic, and Killing Floor SC?

Killing Floor is BBS. 

BBS make great boards but if you skate a SC deck for a while you'll see the difference.  SC boards are really rigid which takes a minute to get used to but then they never get soggy.  I have a Norhern Co that I've been skating on and off for a couple of months and the damn thing feels brand new.  Very hard to razortail as well for some reason. 

Pennswood has a little more flex to them than SC (which is not a bad thing).  They're very high quality boards but whatever SC is doing is magic

South Central is Northern Co, Politic, Bacon, Colony, etc

Pennswood is Scumco, Terror Of Planet X, American Nomad, etc.

[bluntstofakie]

had a 8.25 resin7 zero last year, was good to ride, a lil too flat but i didn't noticed first, my bad, lasted 3 months of intense skating, the only bad point is that it tends to cheap easy, not like Real, a shock in a ledge and you lose bits of plys, bad wood quality, or too dry i dunno, i'll stick with bbs while i can find them

edit : and oh yeah, when i focused it after a big crack at the rear truck, it broke in the middle !!!

Hahaha I had to read this like 5 times to even begin to understand what you're trying to saying. wtf is a shock in a ledge?

[layzieyez]

I skate them because they work better for me for certain tricks. I don't skate the resin7. No complaints here. I have four completes that get regularly skated and rotated because that's how I choose to do this skateboarding thing.

[the snake]

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had a 8.25 resin7 zero last year, was good to ride, a lil too flat but i didn't noticed first, my bad, lasted 3 months of intense skating, the only bad point is that it tends to cheap easy, not like Real, a shock in a ledge and you lose bits of plys, bad wood quality, or too dry i dunno, i'll stick with bbs while i can find them

edit : and oh yeah, when i focused it after a big crack at the rear truck, it broke in the middle !!!

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Hahaha I had to read this like 5 times to even begin to understand what you're trying to saying. wtf is a shock in a ledge?

sorry, i'm french, i meant the board tends to explode easily

[the snake]

when you accidentally throw it in a ledge after missing a fucking trick and falling...yeah i'm high

[johnes]

I have a few friends that mostly skate dwindle boards, I had a Cliche last year, it felt legit, but i only used it for like 3 sessions.
I always thought the hate was kinda lame, MAde in china is a bummer, but every deck pressed the same is great.

I wish PS stix did one at a time.

[drunk guy]

99% of Dwindle boards are heat transfers now

Their boards are fine.  you will find mixed reviews on them.  The impact stuff actually does work but it only really matters if you break a lot of boards.

Personally I've found in terms of quality and durability the scale is -

South Central -> Pennswood -> BBS -> NHS -> Dwindle -> PS Stix -> Crailtap

After that some of it comes down to preference in feel, shapes and dimensions.  Some people prefer the way china wood feels or the shapes from PS boards, etc

South Central and Pennswood seem to be head and shoulders above the rest.  They're also made in the USA if that matters

I would put chapman in front of all of those but thats just me !

[Tracer]

Dwindle OK but very gimmicky

[Mongoloid]

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99% of Dwindle boards are heat transfers now

Their boards are fine.  you will find mixed reviews on them.  The impact stuff actually does work but it only really matters if you break a lot of boards.

Personally I've found in terms of quality and durability the scale is -

South Central -> Pennswood -> BBS -> NHS -> Dwindle -> PS Stix -> Crailtap

After that some of it comes down to preference in feel, shapes and dimensions.  Some people prefer the way china wood feels or the shapes from PS boards, etc

South Central and Pennswood seem to be head and shoulders above the rest.  They're also made in the USA if that matters

[close]

I would put chapman in front of all of those but thats just me !

No issues here with Dwindle as far as quality is concerned. The single press deck's are some of my favorite's to skate these days (Have two complete zero's), and seem to hold up as well as anything else out there. I second the notion of Chapman! I feel like they have always historically produced quality decks, but don't get hyped up nearly enough.

I've never had a bad Zoo York or 5Boro (still produced by Chapman?).

[Hannity]

i bought a discount Zero deck from active a month or two ago and when i got it, it had already de-lammed. but i didn't have the time or effort to send it back, even though they would have probably given me a brand new one. so, i don't buy discount wood from active anymore and i stay away from Dwindle from now on.

like Steve and others have said, once you feel the difference of SC boards, it's hard to go back.

[sharkin]

Dwindle boards are trash

I've stepped the nose off one too many times just missing shuv its on flat to consider buying one ever again.

Been on a south central kick the past few years. Chapman and Pennswood both make fine quality products too.

[alecjahr]

When I was flow for almost I fucking loved skating impact boards I had a falling out with the rep so I quit sending in footy and stopped skating or telling any thing almost maybe it's time I give them another shot.

[tzhangdox]

I'm sure their manufacturing process is fine. The impact stuff really works too, had an enjoi impact I found on sale and that shit kept its pop and stayed super crispy the whole time I had it. The problem I have with dwindle is that the wood sucks, they always chip, crack and razor tail way too quickly. That undermines the benefits of the impact tech in some ways. I feel like if that impact board was made with DLX wood or something, I'd be able to skate it forever. Regular dwindle boards feel fine, but just don't last, in my experience at least.

[pointandclick]

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BMC: I really like BBS/Generator wood.  It feels more stable longer than others.  Who uses South Central and Pennswood? Aren't Scum Co, Politic, and Killing Floor SC?

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Killing Floor is BBS. 

BBS make great boards but if you skate a SC deck for a while you'll see the difference.  SC boards are really rigid which takes a minute to get used to but then they never get soggy.  I have a Norhern Co that I've been skating on and off for a couple of months and the damn thing feels brand new.  Very hard to razortail as well for some reason. 

Pennswood has a little more flex to them than SC (which is not a bad thing).  They're very high quality boards but whatever SC is doing is magic

South Central is Northern Co, Politic, Bacon, Colony, etc

Pennswood is Scumco, Terror Of Planet X, American Nomad, etc.

Northern Co is generator or bbs now.

[Jake From State Farm]

I like Chapman and PS Stix best

[Main]

Dwindle OK but very gimmicky

[mynameisnotjeff]

I have an impact plus with 2 complaints, I got a size smaller than usual and the concave for these boards is on the flatter size. It helps.

[BMCsteve]

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BMC: I really like BBS/Generator wood.  It feels more stable longer than others.  Who uses South Central and Pennswood? Aren't Scum Co, Politic, and Killing Floor SC?

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Killing Floor is BBS. 

BBS make great boards but if you skate a SC deck for a while you'll see the difference.  SC boards are really rigid which takes a minute to get used to but then they never get soggy.  I have a Norhern Co that I've been skating on and off for a couple of months and the damn thing feels brand new.  Very hard to razortail as well for some reason. 

Pennswood has a little more flex to them than SC (which is not a bad thing).  They're very high quality boards but whatever SC is doing is magic

South Central is Northern Co, Politic, Bacon, Colony, etc

Pennswood is Scumco, Terror Of Planet X, American Nomad, etc.

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Northern Co is generator or bbs now.

Not unless BBS is somehow manufacturing in the US now

[j....soy.....]

I just grabbed one of those birds of prey boards...pretty sure not BBS....

Something different about them is the bevel...should make no difference on boards but I find it does mentally.....

Yeah I'd throw the chapman boards in the mix if you don't mind a bit of a clunker...they are indestructible though...

I skated dwindle boards...nothing wrong with them....but if I can avoid China I try to and honestly..a BBS or a PS Stix are decent and have better brands.....

[256 Ply]

The single deck pressing is really a monumental improvement and should become an industry standard.

There's nothing worse than getting the same deck but having it feel and ride differently because of its position in the stack.

If you do get a DSM deck, make sure to go with a pro deck and not a pricepoint model.

[IHeelflip]

Personally, I don't really care for Dwindle. I've snapped a few Almosts.

[drunk guy]

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99% of Dwindle boards are heat transfers now

Their boards are fine.  you will find mixed reviews on them.  The impact stuff actually does work but it only really matters if you break a lot of boards.

Personally I've found in terms of quality and durability the scale is -

South Central -> Pennswood -> BBS -> NHS -> Dwindle -> PS Stix -> Crailtap

After that some of it comes down to preference in feel, shapes and dimensions.  Some people prefer the way china wood feels or the shapes from PS boards, etc

South Central and Pennswood seem to be head and shoulders above the rest.  They're also made in the USA if that matters

[close]

I would put chapman in front of all of those but thats just me !

[close]

No issues here with Dwindle as far as quality is concerned. The single press deck's are some of my favorite's to skate these days (Have two complete zero's), and seem to hold up as well as anything else out there. I second the notion of Chapman! I feel like they have always historically produced quality decks, but don't get hyped up nearly enough.

I've never had a bad Zoo York or 5Boro (still produced by Chapman?).

5boro was south central not china but just did another run with south central....I dont think its going to be a regular thing unfortunately. Zoo for as far as I know has moved over to china

[the snake]

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Dwindle OK but very gimmicky

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hahaha

[drunkenshredder]

I've rescreened a couple dwindle boards with a heat transfer machine and was surprised at the sounds the board made. It sounded like firecrackers. Someone told me they use sound waves to cure the glue which leaves pockets in the glue. I've never ridden one but based off the sounds i'd be hesitant to buy one.