Factual conversation about making videos

[too much]

Money.

The "attention span" argument is a cop out. We aren't scientists, human beings all of a sudden didn't lose their attention span. Our attention span has always been short, and has been arguably decreasing since the invention of the television. If our attention span only lasts 15 seconds to a minute, how the fuck is anyone suppose to drive a car? Give me a fucking break, that is the most stupid fucking logic and clearly avoiding the elephant in the room which is the financing for the video. Anyone saying people can't sit through a 20 minute to hour long video is full of shit and lying to your face. They don't have the resources to invest in a video, period.

Purchasing camera equipment
Purchasing editing software
Paying a filmer
Traveling expenses
Paying an editor
Production costs
Distribution costs
Marketing costs
Music rights
Profit for the company

[h00man]

Fully Flared was great even with the runtime. Pretty Sweet....meh

I think a video going over an hour is pushing it, unless it's full of interesting stuff (Spirit Quest) that keeps the viewer wanting more. 30 min videos are perfect for me.

True fact about making a video: 75% sucks. 25% fun.

[Tracer]

Aside from financial stuff finding a good TM that can babysit a full squad is probably the hardest part. Give Sinclair and ISUCK a shitload of credit, firing a good friend who isn't pulling their weight really sucks. There's a reason ZERO dominated the video game when people actually forked over cash for a video they KNEW would be great.

[too much]

Consumer's money is nothing. Chris Roberts said it perfectly in the 9 Club recap episode, "It's just $20." Food, gas, beer, weed, people spend money on that every week, and then what you bought is gone, because you consumed it. A video you will keep forever, companies don't want to spend money on it, it's too expensive.

[childhood]

If people could download food, gas, beer, and weed, a lot less would actually spend money on them.

[Dwyck]

If our attention span only lasts 15 seconds to a minute, how the fuck is anyone suppose to drive a car?

because driving a car and consuming media are two completely different activities??
if anything a car satiates that shortened attention span because of all the stimuli - the road, other cars, the environment, music
if you cant see the slow and imminent death of the hour long video as a product of changing times and growing presence of media you aren't looking

[Iceman]

If people could download food, gas, beer, and weed, a lot less would actually spend money on them.

yup. piracy and the enormous flood of internet content are to blame.

[zippy z]

I'm going to agree with the OP. How the fuck do these clowns explain the 2-3 hour (or longer) movies normal people flock to in herds? Often these people will go see a movie multiple times as well as purchase the movie for future rewatching. Same with TV shows. Binge watching is huge these days with all age groups in all genres of visual media thanks to all the on-demand services. Attention span is not the problem.

Either the industry struggles with creating engaging content for their audience or they can't come up with the funds for engaging content. I think it's both.

[shark tits]

like iceman said in less words, all the kids posting shit up means pros need to do the same. it's better to be in everyone's minds weekly than hold your footage in for 2 yrs and we still forget about it w/in a wk. web gnar is the culprit.

[offkilter]

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If people could download food, gas, beer, and weed, a lot less would actually spend money on them.

[close]

yup. Piracy and the enorMous flood of internet content are to blame.