Original Swiss vs Super Swiss 6

[Jud Nestorkins]

Going to get my first set of bones Swiss. Both same price


Should I get these















Or these

[coneklr]

Never had the 6 ball but I've been skating only the og swiss for 10+ years and have only had a handful of sets in that time.  They were hands down better than any other bearings I had skated before that.  My .02

[N.L.]

6 ball are supposed to be stronger and quicker accelerating for street skating. the theory is they also stay cleaner longer due to only having 6 balls. they seem to last longer for me. get 'em.

[Jud Nestorkins]

6 ball are supposed to be stronger and quicker accelerating for street skating. the theory is they also stay cleaner longer due to only having 6 balls. they seem to last longer for me. get 'em.

Thanks man. I was leaning towards the 6 balls but I notice that most pros on bones just ride the OG Swiss so I figured there must be something better about them vs the 6 balls

[FirstBlood82]

six balls lasted longer than swiss for me

[Randozzi]

6 balls, so so good.

[Tracer]

Make sure you get new wheels and trucks too, don't want no axle slips. 6 balls are fast as f*** especially in new wheels

[JAesop]

6, a little louder buzz, but that makes them better.

[coneklr]

Damn, my next set may have to be the 6 ball then with these reviews!

[jamersonbass]

I've skated the original swiss, L2's or labyrinth's, and super 6.  I prefer the 6's. I'm no physics expert, but I think the larger size ball bearings have less rolling resistance.

[j....soy.....]

6's.....but I'd recommend race reds tightened down......

[Chavo]

The larger (6) balls are supposed to withstand more load and haver a lower running torque (faster). On the other hand, there's more space between bearings, which may make them weaker for axial loads (side to side). I would think more balls are better for street, and 6 balls would be better for bowls.

[Firebert]

I like the 6's, but I got a flat spot on one of the ball bearings after 4 years. I've had the 7's for 5 years on and just got another pair of the 6's.

You really can't go wrong with these two choices, it's just splitting hairs at this point.

[iwishilivedinfinla]

same price?  where

[OldManSkate]

Never had the Originals. I've had the same 6's for a little over 2 years now. Still going strong. I thought they were done last week but after cleaning/living, they're fast as hell again.

[Jud Nestorkins]

same price?  where

http://www.skatewarehouse.com/Bones_Super_Swiss_6_Ball_Bearings/descpage-BSSS6BR.html

http://www.skatewarehouse.com/Bones_Original_Swiss_Bearings/descpage-BSSWBR.html

[BMCsteve]

Swiss 6 are the fastest bearings that I've ever skating.  That being said, I skate the Race Reds now because I like the design better.  They aren't as fast though and likely wont last as long as the 6

[pointandclick]

Swiss 6 are the fastest bearings that I've ever skating.  That being said, I skate the Race Reds now because I like the design better.  They aren't as fast though and likely wont last as long as the 6

i wonder if you could take apart a set of each and configure a race 6 ball?

[Opoin]

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Swiss 6 are the fastest bearings that I've ever skating.  That being said, I skate the Race Reds now because I like the design better.  They aren't as fast though and likely wont last as long as the 6

[close]

i wonder if you could take apart a set of each and configure a race 6 ball?

I think the groove of the race reds wouldn't be large enough for the larger 6 ball design to output maximal performance, maybe?  I'm just talking out of my ass and have no idea if it's true though.

[yourfuckingdad]

Swiss 6 are the fastest bearings that I've ever skating.  That being said, I skate the Race Reds now because I like the design better.  They aren't as fast though and likely wont last as long as the 6

What do you mean you like the design better? It sounds like the 6 is better designed as in your experience it's faster and more durable. Do you mean how they look?

[Jud Nestorkins]

Thank you guys. The super 6 it is!

[NowhereInLife]

yea they should make a race swiss6

[Pigeon]

Does anyone have the Swiss Ceramics and are they the best bearings you've ever had?

[j....soy.....]

Taken off some old longboard forum:

The best bearing by design right now is the Super Swiss 6 by Bones with SpeedCream. The Bearing had several advantages. 1) It is manufactured by WIB Bearing. 2) They are made with a tight Raceway curvature to avoid "Excess Axial Play" 3) They are supplied with a Re-enforced plastic cage rated at 150,000 RPM 4)Laberinth Non-Contacting Rubber Seals to keep out dirt. This is the obtimum design for free rotation and keeping out contamination.
Ceramic Ball Bearings are only good if they come with Plastic or Phenolic Ball Cages. As a Hardcore skater skating 4-5 days a week. Super Swiss 6 with Speed cream cant be beat. Fuc* the Abec rating. The Abec rating is designed so that the bearing has manufacturing consistancy in order to manufacture mating parts to simular tolerances. (Re: Precision Shafting and Housings.)
Ron

Oh Yeah
... one more note on why the Super swiss 6 has lower starting and running torque (This is Known as Speed to us skateboarders)
All 608's are made with 7 ball compliment. The Super Swiss 6 is the ONLY 608 manufactured with a 6 ball compliment. The Balls all bigger, can take higher load (Impact), Have less ball surphase touching the raceway with 6 balls instead of 7 which lowers the running torque of the bearing making the bearing get to full speed quicker. I am sure within the next year you will start seeing more 6 ball designs, but right now its WIB(Bones) that makes 'em...At all possible, stick with German or Swiss with Plastic or non-metalic ball cages. Any bearing with a steel cage will be slower no matter where it's made. Grease is just an oil with a thickener, the thickener in the grease will slow down your bearing and running just oil will attract contaminates from far away and not provide proper protection. Use the Good-old Speed Cream in the skate shops. By buying German or Swiss what is important is you will know the bearing is manufactuered by a very high quality bearing manufacturer who does the final raceway polishing what the chinese dont, and who it is. There are so many names and marketing stratagies going on with Chinese Bearings, you will get lost in it all. At my old Company we brought in Chinese Bearings for .12 Each. We had the Stamping machines to Mark the Shields. We did PIG,GIRL,SPEED DEMONS, and several others. All were from the same manufacturing lot with different color/marked shields. Any of those weird brands are probably a .12-.18 cent bearing made by the millions with no quality control and several key manufacturing processes left out in order to sell the U.S. for .12 cents.

[rob]

haha note to self: get bones super swiss 6 ball bearings.

been rolling on super reds cause cheap and a little better than reg reds but now im very interested in investing on better bearings hearing all this, faster? stronger? longer rolls? i need this

[Krooked antihero]

My 2 cents, 6balls were faster but regular ones lasted longer.

[franquietits]

Anyone try oust? http://www.oustbearings.com/index.php/products

I'm wondering if they can compete with bones. I like the idea of having steel ball cages that these feature: I try to stick with bearings for a long time, and the plastic/nylon type always end up breaking on me. I guess they're considered the bearing brand of choice for a lot of gnarly long-boarders and slalom skaters.   

[commander jameson]

Does anyone have the Swiss Ceramics and are they the best bearings you've ever had?

In short, yes.
I had money to splurge and got those.
They are very expensive but really amazing bearings, fast, low maintenance and bit lighter than standard bearings if that matters to you. They will last for years without trouble.
I would say that they are kinda overkill but if money is not issue or you got good discount get those.

[svilleantigo]

just adding one more vote to the mix for anyone considering the super swiss: i feel like the difference between 6s and regular swiss is bigger than the difference between reds and swiss, if that helps. lasted forever too

[j....soy.....]

A crown broke on my set and you can't easily replace it because it's for six balls.....bones sells em though.....I was just too lazy to buy a single like that....