I had been skating for half a year and I bought the thrasher with the Phillips high on acid cover. Inside was a sequence of the gonz ollieing over a pool. It's hard to find now but would stand up today. His ollies were amazing at this point in his career, his board would go past vertical and his front foot was gnarly. Anyway recently, I was surprised to learn that his model at the time had a 16 and a quarter wheelbase! I figure back before noses, to do ollies without you're foot slipping off, extra wheelbase/extra front truck swing weight would prolly help. I think between 86 to 90 the wheelbases went from 16 to 14. But yah first handrail 50-50 was on a 16.25 wb.