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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #330 on: June 01, 2021, 10:46:29 AM »
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHvXIYSlB9a/

this is the only footage ive ever seen from it. just this post
wow that looks actually fantastic! i wonder how the 16:9 looks, though.
i'm very optimistic to know that i'll be able to continue filming after im done with vx by mounting my mk1 on some hd cameras, that set up just looks beautiful

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #331 on: June 01, 2021, 11:23:28 AM »
16:9 would have massive vignetting, they probably had to zoom in after cropping to 4:3 too. the mk2 and mk2 clones have full circle vig when zoomed out.
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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #332 on: June 01, 2021, 11:53:58 AM »
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/729939983196225596/849359873555955752/43VIGS.zip

2 4:3 vigs i made for the Skater XL game. Crop them, darken them, lighten them, tint them, flip them. Lemme know what you guys think.
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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #333 on: June 03, 2021, 09:40:45 AM »
Super late to the party, but here's my ax700/mk1. Thanks for the help yall! No zooming in post this is pretty much straight to the time line. I've considered distorting the corners a bit to minimize the vig, but not mad at this at all.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CPkJemXFe7b/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #334 on: June 04, 2021, 04:04:34 AM »
does anyone have test footage for this setup? ive been scouring youtube for footage from a hpx170/mk1 but can never find any

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #335 on: June 09, 2021, 05:54:10 AM »
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One shotgun mic for those who film on DSLRs that I thought recreated vx audio fairly well is the Sony MS907/MS908c. It's pretty cheap but hard to find, definitely wouldn't wanna use it for anything besides skating.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDlqLY740Ts I believe miguel valle used it in this clip, the music is kinda loud so you can't hear it that well, still a little more bassy than vx1000 audio but definitely closer to the vx effect than anything else I've heard in recent times.

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i was just rereading page one and this seems like a really interesting post. These Sony MS907/MS908c Mics appear to be from a similar time period as when the VX was manufactured. Is there a chance they have similar specs and internals to the actual VX microphone? Has anyone tested this further or done a comparison?

just saw a bunch of them on ebay here in germany for like 30€, might cop one

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #336 on: June 09, 2021, 11:33:39 AM »
https://youtu.be/plXI-OQRrz0

First test of the HMC 150 with the opteka fisheye. It is the 72mm model with 2 spacers and zoom set to Z00. Not sure if it's going to be wide enough, I like the small amount of vig though.

Quality looks kinda bad. I filmed on 1080 30p, but I will try next time on 720 60p. I don't care for 60p video but from what I've read now it sounds like these cameras do best filming in that mode.

I think I can probably increase the shutter speed more too, I was on 1/125th but it looks a little too slow.

Also the wind noise is bad. Do you guys use the internal mic on the panasonics and if so do you have a windshield over the mic?

Hopefully someday I can find a MK1 for this thing instead.

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #337 on: June 10, 2021, 04:58:19 AM »
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what's the setup here?
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hpx170 with a no name mk2. same setup as @suckmadeck but without a spacer ring.
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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #338 on: June 10, 2021, 06:20:29 AM »
So I've posted before some test footage of my 4x3 HD setup, well the video I was hired to make is coming out at the end of this month so I thought I'd share the trailer with you all.

https://youtu.be/m_rFpR-obnw

Shot on a HPX171, with an Opteka/Kapkur 52mm with a 72mm spacer ring, and a 72mm - 52mm step down ring. For this trailer I even experimented with exporting some footage out as an SD .avi file to see if I can make the whole low-res VX1000/DVX100 feel translate to HD HPX footage.

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #339 on: June 10, 2021, 10:39:41 AM »
Alex Mizurov's new part is in 4:3 @ 60fps. it's definitely choppy at times but some clips are pretty crisp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrWFXdQX-SA


So I've posted before some test footage of my 4x3 HD setup, well the video I was hired to make is coming out at the end of this month so I thought I'd share the trailer with you all.

https://youtu.be/m_rFpR-obnw

Shot on a HPX171, with an Opteka/Kapkur 52mm with a 72mm spacer ring, and a 72mm - 52mm step down ring. For this trailer I even experimented with exporting some footage out as an SD .avi file to see if I can make the whole low-res VX1000/DVX100 feel translate to HD HPX footage.

wow that was sick, loved some of that flicker-y VFX stuff. stoked for the full vid.

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #340 on: June 10, 2021, 10:40:54 AM »
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i was just rereading page one and this seems like a really interesting post. These Sony MS907/MS908c Mics appear to be from a similar time period as when the VX was manufactured. Is there a chance they have similar specs and internals to the actual VX microphone? Has anyone tested this further or done a comparison?
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just saw a bunch of them on ebay here in germany for like 30€, might cop one

i'm probably gonna do the same, they're really cheap in the USA too

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #341 on: June 20, 2021, 01:13:17 AM »
Super late to the party, but here's my ax700/mk1. Thanks for the help yall! No zooming in post this is pretty much straight to the time line. I've considered distorting the corners a bit to minimize the vig, but not mad at this at all.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CPkJemXFe7b/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

I have no idea how to post ig stuff.

This is the AX700 with a Mk1.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CP2vtXIhm9N/

First trick is zoomed all the way out, so in edit its the heaviest crop. The second and the last fish trick are zoomed to roughly where I thought 4:3 was, so minimal crop.

You get better final resolution with the second method, but the edges end up pretty soft.
Lower res/more crop on that first frontboard trick...but looks way cleaner.

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #342 on: June 20, 2021, 10:30:51 AM »
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Super late to the party, but here's my ax700/mk1. Thanks for the help yall! No zooming in post this is pretty much straight to the time line. I've considered distorting the corners a bit to minimize the vig, but not mad at this at all.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CPkJemXFe7b/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

I have no idea how to post ig stuff.
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This is the AX700 with a Mk1.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CP2vtXIhm9N/

First trick is zoomed all the way out, so in edit its the heaviest crop. The second and the last fish trick are zoomed to roughly where I thought 4:3 was, so minimal crop.

You get better final resolution with the second method, but the edges end up pretty soft.
Lower res/more crop on that first frontboard trick...but looks way cleaner.

Funny seeing the MK1 look so soft compared to an Opteka. Cool to see it works on a AX700 though! I think a PXW-X70 would be more VX like imo

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #343 on: June 27, 2021, 12:18:50 PM »

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #344 on: June 27, 2021, 02:31:20 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvbPb07dQUg
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Thanks for posting MS907 footy!! Sounds like it doesn't really resemble the VX mic, but doesn't sound too bad either.

Footage looks great and your friend rips.

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #345 on: June 27, 2021, 05:11:23 PM »
https://youtu.be/-PSKt2eg5-o

Just premiered the video I've been working on for 2 and a half months! Shot on a Panasonic HPX171 (and some Canon G25 thing) with a Kapkur/Opteka 52mm fisheye.

Give it a watch if you fancy

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #346 on: June 28, 2021, 01:22:40 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvbPb07dQUg
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footage looks great and the ms 907 doesn't sound too bad.

where are those spots? they look really nice

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #347 on: June 28, 2021, 11:09:56 AM »
@sk8rat just put out this tutorial of how he got a MK1 on the HPX170, most notably shaving a few mm off a spacer ring and gluing it to the bayo ring  :o

It is seriously shocking how similiar the 480p footage looks to the VX. I think i said it before earlier in the thread, but so much of what I thought was the "VX look" was definitely the character of the MK1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGtPtL0-Mpo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-0S4p2ELG8

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #348 on: June 28, 2021, 03:20:48 PM »
@sk8rat just put out this tutorial of how he got a MK1 on the HPX170, most notably shaving a few mm off a spacer ring and gluing it to the bayo ring  :o

It is seriously shocking how similiar the 480p footage looks to the VX. I think i said it before earlier in the thread, but so much of what I thought was the "VX look" was definitely the character of the MK1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGtPtL0-Mpo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-0S4p2ELG8

The 480i on the HPX internally is quite soft compared to a true DV camera so I wouldn't recommend it, however shooting at the normal 720p 50p/60p and then dragging that into a 480i timeline and exporting it yields some decent results!

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #349 on: June 30, 2021, 01:40:04 AM »
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvbPb07dQUg
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footage looks great and the ms 907 doesn't sound too bad.

where are those spots? they look really nice
This is spots of Saint Petersburg city, Russia

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #350 on: July 21, 2021, 06:18:27 PM »
I have been trying to figure out a way to use my HMC150 to film 4:3 fisheye. I have modded an old vx bayo so that the MK1 will attach. Here is a comparison of the vig and fisheye range. They are pretty close. I will post again once I film some skating with this. Note that the HMC clip was filmed at 0 zoom, but I had to crop in 123% in post to get the vig to match.

https://vimeo.com/577837434

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #351 on: July 21, 2021, 07:39:33 PM »
I have been trying to figure out a way to use my HMC150 to film 4:3 fisheye. I have modded an old vx bayo so that the MK1 will attach. Here is a comparison of the vig and fisheye range. They are pretty close. I will post again once I film some skating with this. Note that the HMC clip was filmed at 0 zoom, but I had to crop in 123% in post to get the vig to match.

https://vimeo.com/577837434

Damn dude, that shit looks good. One of the few MK1's on a HD camera that looks good! So many of em have super soft vig, or a weird yellow glow

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #352 on: August 19, 2021, 03:47:17 PM »
Testing out this new light, the Fotodiox Radius Mini. It gets rid of the spotlight effect that happens with my old LED panel, the Yongnuo YN300. Weighs 1.8 lbs where the YN300 weighs 1.2 lbs, both with NPF750 batteries. I think that it is one of the better options out there. It is heavy duty and puts out soft, even light throughout the whole frame. It really does put out 180 degrees of light too. You can turn the light backwards and still have light on the edges of the frame. It also makes filming at night easier for the skater when the on camera light is the main source. Only cons that I can think of is the price and it may be heavy depending on your set up.

I have not tested it with 16:9 but I can if someone would like to see that. I know that this is a 4:3 thread haha.

Both lights at full power. Radius Mini has a built in diffuser and my YN300 has no diffusion. Radius Mini was set at 5600K, camera on auto white balance. Shot at 1/80 F4 @ 1600 ISO.






Not sure what settings I used here but I can probably push the ISO a lot more.
https://youtu.be/kgx3vOrHG5Q
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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #353 on: August 20, 2021, 06:36:06 AM »
Testing out this new light, the Fotodiox Radius Mini. It gets rid of the spotlight effect that happens with my old LED panel, the Yongnuo YN300. Weighs 1.8 lbs where the YN300 weighs 1.2 lbs, both with NPF750 batteries. I think that it is one of the better options out there. It is heavy duty and puts out soft, even light throughout the whole frame. It really does put out 180 degrees of light too. You can turn the light backwards and still have light on the edges of the frame. It also makes filming at night easier for the skater when the on camera light is the main source. Only cons that I can think of is the price and it may be heavy depending on your set up.

I have not tested it with 16:9 but I can if someone would like to see that. I know that this is a 4:3 thread haha.

Both lights at full power. Radius Mini has a built in diffuser and my YN300 has no diffusion. Radius Mini was set at 5600K, camera on auto white balance. Shot at 1/80 F4 @ 1600 ISO.






Not sure what settings I used here but I can probably push the ISO a lot more.
https://youtu.be/kgx3vOrHG5Q

That's a damn nice light! I was just watching Josh Stewarts Nine Club Stop & Chat where he talks about the spot light effect with LED lights. That thing is fucking huge though, I can imagine it makes filming lines a pain

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #354 on: August 24, 2021, 11:48:42 PM »
Testing out this new light, the Fotodiox Radius Mini.
hell yeah, could def push it up a lil. get it as bright as possible without blowing out any highlights. also you could def make ur 8-15 a little wider too. good shit tho. and get out of the park!
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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #355 on: September 01, 2021, 01:41:28 PM »
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Testing out this new light, the Fotodiox Radius Mini.
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hell yeah, could def push it up a lil. get it as bright as possible without blowing out any highlights. also you could def make ur 8-15 a little wider too. good shit tho. and get out of the park!

I was experimenting with the fisheye and some vig overlays. That width is what I call 8.3. The third line from 8. And I'm in the streets sometimes lol. Really inspired by Nick Richard's 4:3 work. I believe he uses Sony Power Zooms and the 8-15 too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4pFBqbAzWw&ab_channel=Freeskatemag


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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #356 on: September 09, 2021, 10:30:05 AM »
Es has been putting out some footage recently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W1HLUo77E8

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #357 on: September 26, 2021, 08:41:38 PM »
The MK1 bayo mounted onto the HMC150, cropped to 4:3, scaled to 120%. Hoping to swap out the HMC for a HPX to shoot natively in 4:3.

https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/615252094

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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #358 on: September 27, 2021, 05:05:21 AM »
The MK1 bayo mounted onto the HMC150, cropped to 4:3, scaled to 120%. Hoping to swap out the HMC for a HPX to shoot natively in 4:3.

https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/615252094
that looks wonderful! had no problem focusing? flatter, warmer profile and a vx mic would complete it nicely
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Re: The HD 4:3 thread
« Reply #359 on: September 27, 2021, 09:47:05 AM »
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The MK1 bayo mounted onto the HMC150, cropped to 4:3, scaled to 120%. Hoping to swap out the HMC for a HPX to shoot natively in 4:3.

https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/615252094
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that looks wonderful! had no problem focusing? flatter, warmer profile and a vx mic would complete it nicely

It was in auto focus the entire time and didn't go out of focus at all. And yeah I need to improve the scene file / settings. If anyone has any suggestions for HMC lemme know.